How long do you have to live together to make it look real?

[jdwhite21]

I'm sure they look at your old files, but maybe only the CAIPS notes and the appeal decision, not all the evidence I sent in. The problem with reapplying is that if you don't have new evidence they will just say that the case has already been decided, and reject you again. You need new evidence, and not just more evidence of the same kinds of things. For example, evidence of more trips taken to see him, and another year or two of phone bills, won't be enough - I've seen that on many appeal cases.

what do they consider as new evidence?

 

[canadianwoman]

Living together (if it was a long-distance relationship before) and having a child (if you didn't have one before).
I have read a lot of immigration appeal cases, and these were the only things that were considered new evidence. People who just sent in more proof of contact, such as more phone bills and more evidence of travel, were almost always rejected the second time as well. There was only one case (that I read) where the fact the relationship had continued after the first appeal was lost was considered enough - here the couple had just continued phoning each other and visiting.

 

[RobsLuv]

canadianwoman, I am so sorry to hear that after all that wait, your appeal was denied. I am shocked, honestly. I hope that eventually you're able to convince them that this is the real deal. Don't expect any apologies from them, though, for all you've been through. All you can do is try to move forward and keep the faith that eventually the two of you will have a life in Canada. As long as the two of you stay strong together, there is always hope.

 

[jdwhite21]

Living together (if it was a long-distance relationship before) and having a child (if you didn't have one before).
I have read a lot of immigration appeal cases, and these were the only things that were considered new evidence. People who just sent in more proof of contact, such as more phone bills and more evidence of travel, were almost always rejected the second time as well. There was only one case (that I read) where the fact the relationship had continued after the first appeal was lost was considered enough - here the couple had just continued phoning each other and visiting.

Okay so we've already done the living together and we had our first daughter at the time we were rejected. I got pregnant again between the time of our interview and the time he was sent home... but we already had one child.. is that good enough to be new evidence? That scares me a little as our only real different evidence is the proof that we talk daily... nothing else we can really add now that we are not together. I hope that's enough...

 

[Love_Young]

jdwhite21, I think considering you were like me and hubby you have been living together while applying inland before hand you really wouldn't apply as a long distance couple from their standpoint. I think they were meaning being a long distance couple before first applying and during then later conquering that by not being long distance for the next application. Anyway, since you have lived together for a good duration of your relationship I think they will be looking more at how you have continued with your relationship since being married, since the rejection, how you deal with being a parent together and apart, are you still planning things for your future, if so provide evidence of that, show continued communication, and proof of wanting to continue a relationship of permanence. Every relationship and its evolution is different if it wasn't then all of our relationships would be too scripted and boring. Provide all that you can and continue to build it up during the wait. Start preparing for another interview and be each others strength. You both can get through this. This applies to you too canadianwoman. Best of luck for a promising and bright future!

 

[Jez]

@canadianwoman: You have not provided any details of your relationship circumstances. Have you even spent any time living with your husband?

It's a bit random making a post like this and asking the question of how long it takes to make a relationship look real... Especially for a 'champion' member.

 

[HoneyBird2]

^^^^hmmmm. Jez she has stated before her case on other threads. She has asked this question as she values the opinions of members of this forum in thinking through her next steps. Everyday I learn something new on the forum, although I have been on it for a very long time.

 

[scylla]

Jez - If you click on canadianwoman's profile and look through her threads starting at the beginning (i.e. with the oldest) - you'll see tons of information on her story. She has been very open about sharing the details of her experience and helping those of us new to the immigration process. Many of us here are very familiar with her journey and understand why she is asking this question.

canadianwoman - For the record, I think your question is a tough one to answer. I think what makes it hard is that you have to look at things from the CIC's perspective and it's always difficult to guess what their expectations are - and what they deem reasonable/unreasonable. In my eyes you've already proven your relationship and shouldn't need to live together very long at all. But I'm not the CIC.

 

[jdwhite21]

ahhh gotcha love_young... that makes more sense. Thats exactly what we did for our application, but I can't help worrying you know.

 

[HoneyBird2]

I am thinking if for common law it is a requirement for a year living together, then Canadian Woman, i think you should similarly wait a year so the immigration officer can assess your relationship on that year living together.

 

[Jez]

Oh... so it's up to me to go and have a look at the profile and posts of everyone who asks a question? Seriously? Sheesh...

 

[patiently_waiting]

Oh... so it's up to me to go and have a look at the profile and posts of everyone who asks a question? Seriously? Sheesh...

No Jez, it isn't. Honeybird was just trying to give you some back ground on why all the info wasn't there as some of the forum members have developed a relationship over time here and she was just letting you know that there is some info available through old posts if you were interested in looking it up. It isn't a private conversation, however as you can imagine, through this process people turn to each other when they need them the most, it wasn't meant to disclude anyone.

Canadianwoman, I have read through this at least 8 times and one thing sticks with me each time. My only advice to offer is to go about it from a different angel. Maybe the question is not how long to you have to live togther to make it look real, but really more about how you can show over 6 months or a year the genuiness of your relationship in a way that they will 'get it'? I know it sounds lame, but I can only assume your IO was looking for more 'bells and whistles' (cards, pictures, a will perhaps) which I am sure you have already submitted however just didn't do it for them for whatever reason.

I wish the best of luck, I can't imagine how difficult this must be for you.

 

[missmini]

in the time together clearly show what special things u did together for ur birthdays, maybe have an outing together, how u'll b spending New Year together or Christmas and the most important ur Anniversary; maybe show pictures with both of u inside ur home, with friends visiting at ur home, explain ur living together, who does what, how u decorate ur home, stuff like that; focus from the moment of the rejection until the moment when u'll apply

i don't know if it is this what they want to see but since it's hard to guess their mind, it's worth to give it a shot

for the ones who are wondering: yes she is more senior than many of us and she knows very well her application and what she has to do but sometimes maybe they r things u don't see or u don't realize and people like us could ring her a bell

good luck

 

[HoneyBird2]

if you are planning to have a child, maybe this is the time to do it, perhaps later down in the year. Living one year in a foreign country, having a child are drastic changing circumstances rather than the simple continuing to write/talk/visit each other.

 

[canadianwoman]

Thanks everyone for your advice, and good wishes.