How likely are we getting rejected PR?

[Line.a]

This is true, there is a few, but the last one that actually killed people was over 100 years ago! We had one erupt when I was in primary school, probably close to 20 years ago (Man I feel old), I remember walking to class and everyones eyes started hurting and the sky was grey - we thought it was acid rain. Found out Ruapehu had erupted and by morning our entire town (about 2 hours away from the volcano) was covered in about 3cms of ash. But its COOL, not scary.

Lots of earthquakes too, but its nature, and they are kinda exciting, in a weird way!

Im sure more people die in Canada from cougars / bears / than people in NZ die from volcanoes!

I don't think I've ever experienced an earthquake before to be honest. I've lived in Denmark, England and now Canada and none of them had earthquakes unless I've slept through it all lol. That's sick though 3cms of ash? You'd want your windows closed then

I'm hoping to go to NZ one day it's one gorgeous place!

 

[ism45]

Good luck to everyone

Good luck to everyone

 

[Line.a]

Thanks, you too

 

[CdnandTrini]

Reply: How likely are we getting rejected PR?

The diplomats on strike are not immigration officers.

Hi Amikety, I know that you and PMM and another senior keep stating that the PAFSO strike is not affecting immigration applications but I am confused and keep wondering why you folks are so vehement on informing forum members that it has nothing to do with PR applications when the media seems to keep saying the contrary. Please see below, this info. goes as far back as mid-June 2013. I am happy to be corrected by the way. I will post this in the other threads as well where the confusion continues. The link is:

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/06/21/canadas_tourism_industry_could_take_hit_during_strike_by_visa_staff.html

"More than 320 of the 1,350 foreign affairs union members are immigration officers. So far, PAFSO members have been on legal strike, disrupting the visa processing services in Beijing, Shanghai, Delhi, Chandigarh, Mexico City and Manila."

Citizenship and Immigration Canada said the department has designated visa officer positions overseas as essential but the union said they account for only 25 per cent of all immigration officers.

“Contingency plans are already in place to ensure all offices remain open and are providing at least a minimum level of service,” said immigration spokesperson Nancy Caron.

“Priority will be placed on urgent humanitarian applications. Anyone applying for a visa should submit their application as far in advance as possible.”


"Although 1,060 non-union local employees continue their work in visa offices, the majority of them are support workers and not decision-makers, said Edwards."

 

[parker24]

Re: Reply: How likely are we getting rejected PR?

Hi Amikety, I know that you and PMM and another senior keep stating that the PAFSO strike is not affecting immigration applications but I am confused and keep wondering why you folks are so vehement on informing forum members that it has nothing to do with PR applications when the media seems to keep saying the contrary. Please see below, this info. goes as far back as mid-June 2013. I am happy to be corrected by the way. I will post this in the other threads as well where the confusion continues. The link is:

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/06/21/canadas_tourism_industry_could_take_hit_during_strike_by_visa_staff.html

"More than 320 of the 1,350 foreign affairs union members are immigration officers. So far, PAFSO members have been on legal strike, disrupting the visa processing services in Beijing, Shanghai, Delhi, Chandigarh, Mexico City and Manila."

Citizenship and Immigration Canada said the department has designated visa officer positions overseas as essential but the union said they account for only 25 per cent of all immigration officers.

“Contingency plans are already in place to ensure all offices remain open and are providing at least a minimum level of service,” said immigration spokesperson Nancy Caron.

“Priority will be placed on urgent humanitarian applications. Anyone applying for a visa should submit their application as far in advance as possible.”


"Although 1,060 non-union local employees continue their work in visa offices, the majority of them are support workers and not decision-makers, said Edwards."

Exactly. THEY ARE SUPPORT WORKERS. They don't go through your files. They bring the files to desks.

 

[CdnandTrini]

Reply: How likely are we getting rejected PR?

Exactly. THEY ARE SUPPORT WORKERS. They don't go through your files. They bring the files to desks.

Hello parker24, your answer responds to the last paragraph, but WHAT ABOUT THE 320 THAT ARE IMMIGRATION OFFICERS? . Selective answers that seem to support your personal opinion are not really that helpful.

I am simply curious as to the data you have. Perhaps I have missed reading a relevant post, I just believe you, PMM and Amikety have repeated many times on this forum (please correct me if I am wrong) to many members that you believe the PAFSO strike has nothing to do with CIC and the processing of our applications; however, I am still confused as to the facts that you 3 have brought to the table.

It seems that these are your "opinions", which of course you are entitled to; however, I think it behooves senior forum members especially, to be even more responsible to clarify the basis and/or facts that comprise their "opinions" to those of us less experienced or knowledgeable.

Blessings.

 

[parker24]

Re: Reply: How likely are we getting rejected PR?

Hello parker24, your answer responds to the last paragraph, but WHAT ABOUT THE 320 THAT ARE IMMIGRATION OFFICERS? . Selective answers that seem to support your personal opinion are not really that helpful.

I am simply curious as to the data you have. Perhaps I have missed reading a relevant post, I just believe you, PMM and Amikety have repeated many times on this forum (please correct me if I am wrong) to many members that you believe the PAFSO strike has nothing to do with CIC and the processing of our applications; however, I am still confused as to the facts that you 3 have brought to the table.

It seems that these are your "opinions", which of course you are entitled to; however, I think it behooves senior forum members especially, to be even more responsible to clarify the basis and/or facts that comprise their "opinions" to those of us less experienced or knowledgeable.

Blessings.

It's not an opinion. I don't have an opinion of someone's job so I don't know how that works.

PAFSO stands for: Professional Association of Foreign Service Officers

They are not visa officers. Even still, they are work to rule right now. Which means, they are still working. They refuse to do overtime. I work in the school system, I watched our teachers do the work to rule thing, they still did their job, they just didn't do anything that wasn't in the job description.

IF in their job description it says TO APPROVE VISAS, they will still be doing them.

But like I said, they are support workers. They don't approve visas. Visa Officer's approve visa's. Just as it says on the CIC website (NOT AN OPINION)

"After you send your application, it will be reviewed at the visa office to make sure it has been completed correctly and that it contains all the required documents. A visa officer will decide if an interview with you is necessary. If an interview is required, you will be notified of the time and place."

Like I said, if they are in that position of issuing visas, they still will be doing them. Obviously or else we wouldn't be seeing people who are getting COPRs...

 

[CdnandTrini]

Reply: How likely are we getting rejected PR?

It's not an opinion. I don't have an opinion of someone's job so I don't know how that works.

PAFSO stands for: Professional Association of Foreign Service Officers

They are not visa officers. Even still, they are work to rule right now. Which means, they are still working. They refuse to do overtime. I work in the school system, I watched our teachers do the work to rule thing, they still did their job, they just didn't do anything that wasn't in the job description.

IF in their job description it says TO APPROVE VISAS, they will still be doing them.

But like I said, they are support workers. They don't approve visas. Visa Officer's approve visa's. Just as it says on the CIC website (NOT AN OPINION)

"After you send your application, it will be reviewed at the visa office to make sure it has been completed correctly and that it contains all the required documents. A visa officer will decide if an interview with you is necessary. If an interview is required, you will be notified of the time and place."

Like I said, if they are in that position of issuing visas, they still will be doing them. Obviously or else we wouldn't be seeing people who are getting COPRs...

Hello parker24, so how do you know for sure that the 320 "immigration officers" are not visa officers? Do you have an actual source that clarifies this distinction?

I know that these terms seem to be used interchangeably here on this forum - VO and IO. I also know what PAFSO stands for (thank you) but am not entirely clear on how your work in the school system is factually relevant to the issue of whether or not PAFSO members are immigration/visa officers affecting the processing of PR applications abroad.

So if they are support workers that don't approve visas as you stated above, yet then after that you also stated "Like I said, if they are in that position of issuing visas, they still will be doing them. Obviously or else we wouldn't be seeing people who are getting COPRs..." then I am really confused by your replies.

Are the 320 PAFSO members noted in the article support workers or are they issuing visas? And if you are referring to the CIC website, and CIC has confirmed that there will be delays due to the PAFSO strike action, but CIC has not clarified the facts and you have not written PAFSO or CIC directly, I am simply curious as to how and what you are basing your answers on - if not opinion. In addition, you have also stated that "I don't have an opinion of someone's job so I don't know how that works". If you do not know "how that works" then how do you explain your statements above where you seem to be describing "how that works"?

Perhaps I should be asking you to define your definition of the word "opinion". It still seems to me that is what you are writing about. In my humble opinion. Blessings.

 

[laura8388]

ok, ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


please.

 

[Line.a]

ok, ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


please.

Yeah what's going on

 

[parker24]

Re: Reply: How likely are we getting rejected PR?

Hello parker24, so how do you know for sure that the 320 "immigration officers" are not visa officers? Do you have an actual source that clarifies this distinction?

I know that these terms seem to be used interchangeably here on this forum - VO and IO. I also know what PAFSO stands for (thank you) but am not entirely clear on how your work in the school system is factually relevant to the issue of whether or not PAFSO members are immigration/visa officers affecting the processing of PR applications abroad.

So if they are support workers that don't approve visas as you stated above, yet then after that you also stated "Like I said, if they are in that position of issuing visas, they still will be doing them. Obviously or else we wouldn't be seeing people who are getting COPRs..." then I am really confused by your replies.

Are the 320 PAFSO members noted in the article support workers or are they issuing visas? And if you are referring to the CIC website, and CIC has confirmed that there will be delays due to the PAFSO strike action, but CIC has not clarified the facts and you have not written PAFSO or CIC directly, I am simply curious as to how and what you are basing your answers on - if not opinion. In addition, you have also stated that "I don't have an opinion of someone's job so I don't know how that works". If you do not know "how that works" then how do you explain your statements above where you seem to be describing "how that works"?

Perhaps I should be asking you to define your definition of the word "opinion". It still seems to me that is what you are writing about. In my humble opinion. Blessings.

Because you are believing they are in control, when they are not. So I put the IF statement.

Opinion: A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

I'll be done with this thread now.

 

[skas13]

Re: Reply: How likely are we getting rejected PR?

It's not an opinion. I don't have an opinion of someone's job so I don't know how that works.

PAFSO stands for: Professional Association of Foreign Service Officers

They are not visa officers. Even still, they are work to rule right now. Which means, they are still working. They refuse to do overtime. I work in the school system, I watched our teachers do the work to rule thing, they still did their job, they just didn't do anything that wasn't in the job description.

IF in their job description it says TO APPROVE VISAS, they will still be doing them.

But like I said, they are support workers. They don't approve visas. Visa Officer's approve visa's. Just as it says on the CIC website (NOT AN OPINION)

"After you send your application, it will be reviewed at the visa office to make sure it has been completed correctly and that it contains all the required documents. A visa officer will decide if an interview with you is necessary. If an interview is required, you will be notified of the time and place."

Like I said, if they are in that position of issuing visas, they still will be doing them. Obviously or else we wouldn't be seeing people who are getting COPRs...

There have only been 2 COPR's in 2 months on the new Delhi thread. Now yes there could be more getting them that aren't on this forum but if they were working someone on the New Delhi page would be hearing something. Other visa offices may have been issuing COPR's but New Delhi hasn't been, and one guy's wife went to pick her passport there (the one person we heard of getting a COPR this month) and said the office was virtually empty.
I think it really depends which visa office your application is with. Unfortunately mine is with ND, and work has almost halted there. No updates from for weeks and weeks now. Now I said almost halted. One sorry bugger probably in there doing to work of 5 people!

 

[laura8388]

Yeah what's going on

They are arguing about whether or not the strike effects our applications.

Cause that will really help. May as well just move on and wait patiently like the rest of us.

 

[Line.a]

They are arguing about whether or not the strike effects our applications.

Cause that will really help. May as well just move on and wait patiently like the rest of us.

Yeah I couldn't agree more. There is nothing we can do anyway, so why waste our energy on being frustrated and arguing about it