GCMS notes meaning: NPR Verified?

[MichelleL]

AOR received on July 2, still not test invite, got GCMS notes today but do not understand if it means NPR verified or not, can someone help please? Thank you.

Original notes:
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NOTES: 19
Created Date: 2025/07/02
Updated Date: 2025/07/02
Restricted: N
Label: General
Text: [Completeness check]
Case notes: N O AKA
Changed name since PR-no
NPR VERIFIED
As per Craig MacGillivary
Does not appear to meet the physical presence requirement. Client previously advised of this but
application resubmitted and client wishes t o proceed. File being referred to PS for review/decision.
Physical presence: Yes: NPR not verifiable in GCMS
Notes: As per Craig MacGillivary
Does not appear to meet the physical presence requirement. Client previously advised of this but
application resubmitted and client wishes t o proceed. File being referred to PS for review/decision.
”””
As you can see, on the bottom it says “PP: Yes: NPR not verifiable”, then on the top it says “NPR verified”, that’s why I’m confused.

 

[Seym]

NPR very probably mean "non permanent resident", here for physical presence days before PR.
What matters here is that IRCC cannot validate the days of presence you claimed before you for your PR. You were probably on a visitor status and not a student or worker with a "bulletproof status". IRCC often has no traceability for these visitor statuses, and as such, you're considered to be falling short or the 1095 days threshold.
How you move from here is your choice. You can either go ahead and wait for IRCC to maybe ask you to justify your physical presence, with absolutely no guarantee you'll convince them months or even years from now, or withdraw the application, wait for 1095 days since PR and apply again.
Your move, but there's a significantly high chance withdrawing and starting from scratch gets you to the finish line much faster. Obviously, if you left Canada since applying, that's a different conversation...

 

[MichelleL]

NPR very probably mean "non permanent resident", here for physical presence days before PR.
What matters here is that IRCC cannot validate the days of presence you claimed before you for your PR. You were probably on a visitor status and not a student or worker with a "bulletproof status". IRCC often has no traceability for these visitor statuses, and as such, you're considered to be falling short or the 1095 days threshold.
How you move from here is your choice. You can either go ahead and wait for IRCC to maybe ask you to justify your physical presence, with absolutely no guarantee you'll convince them months or even years from now, or withdraw the application, wait for 1095 days since PR and apply again.
Your move, but there's a significantly high chance withdrawing and starting from scratch gets you to the finish line much faster. Obviously, if you left Canada since applying, that's a different conversation...

“with absolutely no guarantee you'll convince them months or even years from now,” where do you get the data “years”? Have you seen such a case yourself? If so please quote your sources

 

[Seym]

Well, non-routine cases take a long time, significantly more than the processing average (which is around a year right now!), and you're free to dig into the threads of this forum yourself.

 

[armoured]

“with absolutely no guarantee you'll convince them months or even years from now,” where do you get the data “years”? Have you seen such a case yourself? If so please quote your sources

Here's a thread on the same topic (or similar anyway) for your interest:

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Thread 'GCMS notes say 'I do not appear to meet physical presence requirement'. Referred to PS for review/decision. What to do now?'

Sep 9, 2025

I applied for citizenship in March 2025 and got my AOR in April 2025. By June 2025, my background check was cleared. Since then, I haven’t had a test invite, even though people who applied around the same time as me are already at the oath stage.

I ordered my GCMS notes to see what was happening. At the end, they say:

Physical presence: Yes: NPR not verifiable in GCMS
Notes: Does not appear to meet the physical presence requirement. Client previously advised of this, but application resubmitted, and client wishes to proceed. File being referred to PS for review/decision.

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• menaka_p
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• Forum: Citizenship

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I would overall agree with @Seym in how to look at this. My suggestion, if you meet the physical presence now - using only days since you became a PR - withdrawing and re-applying has a higher chance of proceeding quickly than continuing with your outstanding. If not, calcs may be a bit trickier, involve more judgment (guess) about which is more likely, but I'd still lean towards that.

Up to you of course.

 

[armoured]

I already moved to US so this is not an option, I guess I’ll keep waiting. Thanks for your response anyways.

You may need to simply consider whether your attempt to get citizenship via this route is going to work at all, and whether any steps needed to do so are things you are willing to do.

 

[MichelleL]

You may need to simply consider whether your attempt to get citizenship via this route is going to work at all, and whether any steps needed to do so are things you are willing to do.

Can you please clarify what you meant by "whether your attempt to get citizenship via this route is going to work at all"? Are you referring to "Intend to Reside"? Does IRCC really reject app if the applicant moved outside of Canada for work reason?

 

[armoured]

Can you please clarify what you meant by "whether your attempt to get citizenship via this route is going to work at all"? Are you referring to "Intend to Reside"? Does IRCC really reject app if the applicant moved outside of Canada for work reason?

If you did not meet the physical presence requirement, you are not eligible for citizenship. It's not a 'technical' requirement, it's statutory - as I understand it.

And the statement from the GCMS notes is: "Does not appear to meet the physical presence requirement. Client previously advised of this but
application resubmitted and client wishes t o proceed."

That's rather stark, not a lot of room for doubt as to what they think (or thought when this was entered).

I don't know the full story behind what "application resubmitted and client wishes to proceed" exactly is and how they will handle, but it reads to me as 'you were advised it doesn't meet the requirements, we can't tell you not to resubmit and that is your right to do so [even if the only probable outcome is that it will be rejected].'

Is it the only outcome/most probable? I'm not going to claim to be an expert so you have to decide what to do. I /think/ that's the most probable outcome, from what I understand of this. (And perhaps others can comment)

Comments of course without further info as to whether there's any chance they'll find you did meet the physical presence requirement - I'm treating that as a given, as the only information we have.

 

[MichelleL]

If you did not meet the physical presence requirement, you are not eligible for citizenship. It's not a 'technical' requirement, it's statutory - as I understand it.

And the statement from the GCMS notes is: "Does not appear to meet the physical presence requirement. Client previously advised of this but
application resubmitted and client wishes t o proceed."

That's rather stark, not a lot of room for doubt as to what they think (or thought when this was entered).

I don't know the full story behind what "application resubmitted and client wishes to proceed" exactly is and how they will handle, but it reads to me as 'you were advised it doesn't meet the requirements, we can't tell you not to resubmit and that is your right to do so [even if the only probable outcome is that it will be rejected].'

Is it the only outcome/most probable? I'm not going to claim to be an expert so you have to decide what to do. I /think/ that's the most probable outcome, from what I understand of this. (And perhaps others can comment)

Comments of course without further info as to whether there's any chance they'll find you did meet the physical presence requirement - I'm treating that as a given, as the only information we have.

I see where the confusion is from, and apologies for not including the full story here, here is my full timeline:

Online submission: Apr 15 2025
Returned (on the ground of "Missing document: physical presence before becoming permanent resident cannot be verified.”): May 29 2025
Resubmitted (attached visitor visa again, flight tickets/confirmations, i-94 as proof, as I mainly travelled btw Canada and US before obtaining PR): May 29
AOR: July 2
Link tracker: July 10
Background completed: Aug 28
Ghost update: Aug 30
Attached CBSA record through webform: Dec 3

For PP, as of May 29, I counted a total of 1144.5 days (109.5 NPR days, 1035 PR days), I am certain that my calculation is correct, and is in line with the CBSA record.

My case is almost exactly the same (first submission returned for the same reason, same GCMS note wording) as the post that you quoted. As this point I am not sure what I can do but wait, as I already moved out of the country for reason that I cannot control...

 

[armoured]

For PP, as of May 29, I counted a total of 1144.5 days (109.5 NPR days, 1035 PR days), I am certain that my calculation is correct, and is in line with the CBSA record.

My case is almost exactly the same (first submission returned for the same reason, same GCMS note wording) as the post that you quoted. As this point I am not sure what I can do but wait, as I already moved out of the country for reason that I cannot control...

Your choice.