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FSWP2014 Applicants from India with files transferred to Warsaw visa office.

sarkar13

Star Member
Oct 30, 2014
130
19
India
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO/Warsaw
NOC Code......
4011
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-10-2014
Nomination.....
22-01-2015
AOR Received.
11-02-2015
IELTS Request
Included in Application L 8 R 8.5 S 6.5 W 6.5
Interview........
Waived
Harry_Putter said:
Thanks for the info. Why I asked this question is I raised a CSE yesterday on Warsaw office and today they replied that all my documents have been received and my file has been transferred to Delhi Office and they will take the final decision. They also informed that background checking is still ongoing.


No this raises two questions:
1. Am I going to get PPR mail from Delhi office?
2. What background checks are left now?


Has anyone faced this situation?

- Harry
Dear Harry,

What exactly you had inquired about in CSE?

Can you please cut past the CSE and reply from WVO after removing personal details?

Is the delay in MR/PPR of more than 60 days is due to that the files are transferred to NDVO from WVO?

Why such step now for few applicants?

It is confusing. Why then the files were transferred to WVO?

Any specific reason for it?
 

Pritz

Full Member
Aug 10, 2015
44
1
bluestone said:
Case Specific Enquiry.

You may raise cse by visiting

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/offices/missions/warsaw.asp

there is link for raising CSE. You have to fill in the details.
Thanks Blue :)
 

rajkamalmohanram

VIP Member
Apr 29, 2015
15,802
5,771
Hi,

Does anybody know if Employer's Provident Fund (EPF) can be used as a proof of funds in addition to a FD deposit? I will be able to withdraw this money after I resign from my current position.

Thanks for your time.
 

Harry_Putter

Star Member
Mar 29, 2015
133
7
India
Visa Office......
Warsaw & Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21 Nov 2014
AOR Received.
17 Mar 2015
File Transfer...
12 Feb 2015 to Warsaw. August 2015 to Delhi
Med's Request
09 May 2015
Med's Done....
12 May 2015, TLU 20 May 2015
Interview........
Additional docus requested by NDVO on 11 Sept 2015, submitted on 22 Sept 2015
Passport Req..
09 Nov 2015 DM - 07 Nov 2015
VISA ISSUED...
Recvd COPR 13 Nov 2015
sarkar13 said:
Dear Harry,

What exactly you had inquired about in CSE?

Can you please cut past the CSE and reply from WVO after removing personal details?

Is the delay in MR/PPR of more than 60 days is due to that the files are transferred to NDVO from WVO?

Why such step now for few applicants?

It is confusing. Why then the files were transferred to WVO?

Any specific reason for it?

Hi Sarkar and Bluestone:

I think NDVO will always remain our parent processing visa office.

Unlike previous years, this is the first time NDVO has offloaded FSW applications to Warsaw and Colombo. So what I feel is these two visa offices are basically doing the back-end job for NDVO. Final decision for granting visa ultimately rests with Delhi Office for all applicants from India. Based on the decision given by NDVO, Warsaw or Colombo will inform the applicants. For some this process is fast for some it is slow.

- Harry
 

CanadaCool2015

Star Member
Aug 7, 2015
82
3
Category........
Visa Office......
WVO
NOC Code......
0121
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Doc's Request.
3rd Dec. 2015
IELTS Request
With File
Med's Request
29th May 2015
Med's Done....
3rd June 2015, TLU 10th June 2015
Interview........
DM 14th Aug 2015
Passport Req..
28th Aug 2015
VISA ISSUED...
Passport Submitted 3rd Sept, Passport Recd 8th Sept. 2015
LANDED..........
In November 2015
Any PPR for the day so far ?
 

Samfswquery

Star Member
Dec 1, 2014
100
8
rajkamalmohanram said:
Hi,

Does anybody know if Employer's Provident Fund (EPF) can be used as a proof of funds in addition to a FD deposit? I will be able to withdraw this money after I resign from my current position.

Thanks for your time.
Yes they consider EPF as proof of funds .

Kind Regards,
Samrat
 

bluestone

Hero Member
May 19, 2015
301
21
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO/WVO
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-09-2014
Nomination.....
PER 12-01-2015
IELTS Request
Submitted with Application
File Transfer...
SLU Started Processing on 22-04-2015
Med's Request
07-05-2015
Med's Done....
19-05-2015 Med's Received 30-05-2015
Interview........
Expected to be waived...!! DM on 05-08-2015
Passport Req..
04-08-2015
VISA ISSUED...
Passport submitted on 06-08-2015 and received back with visa on 18-08-2015
LANDED..........
28-10-2015
Harry_Putter said:
Hi Sarkar and Bluestone:

I think NDVO will always remain our parent processing visa office.

Unlike previous years, this is the first time NDVO has offloaded FSW applications to Warsaw and Colombo. So what I feel is these two visa offices are basically doing the back-end job for NDVO. Final decision for granting visa ultimately rests with Delhi Office for all applicants from India. Based on the decision given by NDVO, Warsaw or Colombo will inform the applicants. For some this process is fast for some it is slow.

- Harry
It is a Misconception.

Firstly, offloading decision is not taken by NDVO. It is taken by CIC.

Secondly, physical documentation and rights to access our files are only with wvo. (Try to raise CSE to NDVO, you'll never get response)

Thirdly, it is the Visa Officer who decides upon the file, not ndvo or wvo as a whole.

Fourthly, PPR mail suggests to submit passport to ndvo because it is the nearest visa office to us. Those Indians who are physically in Middle East on employment have been instructed to send their passport to wvo directly.

NDVO can do back end jobs for WVO like background check etc. But taking decision is sole authority of vo who is handling your file, except, transfer of file to other vo.

Friends please share your views on this and please correct me if I am wrong.
 

can2133

Star Member
May 22, 2015
59
1
Bangalore
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi / Warsaw
NOC Code......
2133
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-11-2014
Nomination.....
20-01-2015
AOR Received.
25-02-2015
File Transfer...
22-04-2015
Med's Request
09-05-2015
Med's Done....
23-05-2015, TLU - 02-06-2015
Passport Req..
17-09-2015
VISA ISSUED...
17-09-2015
LANDED..........
Feb 2016
bluestone said:
It is a Misconception.

Firstly, offloading decision is not taken by NDVO. It is taken by CIC.

Secondly, physical documentation and rights to access our files are only with wvo. (Try to raise CSE to NDVO, you'll never get response)

Thirdly, it is the Visa Officer who decides upon the file, not ndvo or wvo as a whole.

Fourthly, PPR mail suggests to submit passport to ndvo because it is the nearest visa office to us. Those Indians who are physically in Middle East on employment have been instructed to send their passport to wvo directly.

NDVO can do back end jobs for WVO like background check etc. But taking decision is sole authority of vo who is handling your file, except, transfer of file to other vo.

Friends please share your views on this and please correct me if I am wrong.
Dear Harry,

Could you please paste the CSE and reply from WVO after hiding your personal details ?

almost output from Bluestone is correct.. :)

But i still confused why they again transferred to NDVO to take decision?

Thanks,
 

Harry_Putter

Star Member
Mar 29, 2015
133
7
India
Visa Office......
Warsaw & Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21 Nov 2014
AOR Received.
17 Mar 2015
File Transfer...
12 Feb 2015 to Warsaw. August 2015 to Delhi
Med's Request
09 May 2015
Med's Done....
12 May 2015, TLU 20 May 2015
Interview........
Additional docus requested by NDVO on 11 Sept 2015, submitted on 22 Sept 2015
Passport Req..
09 Nov 2015 DM - 07 Nov 2015
VISA ISSUED...
Recvd COPR 13 Nov 2015
Hi bluestone:

Pl find my answers in red below.




It is a Misconception.

Firstly, offloading decision is not taken by NDVO. It is taken by CIC.

Workload distribution is done worldwide based on recommendations of the visa offices. CHC has a global processing system

Secondly, physical documentation and rights to access our files are only with wvo. (Try to raise CSE to NDVO, you'll never get response)

I have raised CSE on NDVO in the past and they have replied back

Thirdly, it is the Visa Officer who decides upon the file, not ndvo or wvo as a whole.

It is the Canadian high commission of the home country who stamps the visa if you are present in your home country. Visa officers can reside anywhere

Fourthly, PPR mail suggests to submit passport to ndvo because it is the nearest visa office to us. Those Indians who are physically in Middle East on employment have been instructed to send their passport to wvo directly.

People residing in India cannot send their passports outside their home country. It is against law and also mentioned on our passports. Those residing outside cannot courier their passports back and forth from their home country so they are asked to send it to Warsaw.

NDVO can do back end jobs for WVO like background check etc. But taking decision is sole authority of vo who is handling your file, except, transfer of file to other vo.


Friends please share your views on this and please correct me if I am wrong.
 

bluestone

Hero Member
May 19, 2015
301
21
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO/WVO
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-09-2014
Nomination.....
PER 12-01-2015
IELTS Request
Submitted with Application
File Transfer...
SLU Started Processing on 22-04-2015
Med's Request
07-05-2015
Med's Done....
19-05-2015 Med's Received 30-05-2015
Interview........
Expected to be waived...!! DM on 05-08-2015
Passport Req..
04-08-2015
VISA ISSUED...
Passport submitted on 06-08-2015 and received back with visa on 18-08-2015
LANDED..........
28-10-2015
Harry_Putter said:
Hi bluestone:

Pl find my answers in red below.




It is a Misconception.

Firstly, offloading decision is not taken by NDVO. It is taken by CIC.

Workload distribution is done worldwide based on recommendations of the visa offices. CHC has a global processing system

Secondly, physical documentation and rights to access our files are only with wvo. (Try to raise CSE to NDVO, you'll never get response)

I have raised CSE on NDVO in the past and they have replied back

Thirdly, it is the Visa Officer who decides upon the file, not ndvo or wvo as a whole.

It is the Canadian high commission of the home country who stamps the visa if you are present in your home country. Visa officers can reside anywhere

Fourthly, PPR mail suggests to submit passport to ndvo because it is the nearest visa office to us. Those Indians who are physically in Middle East on employment have been instructed to send their passport to wvo directly.

People residing in India cannot send their passports outside their home country. It is against law and also mentioned on our passports. Those residing outside cannot courier their passports back and forth from their home country so they are asked to send it to Warsaw.

NDVO can do back end jobs for WVO like background check etc. But taking decision is sole authority of vo who is handling your file, except, transfer of file to other vo.


Friends please share your views on this and please correct me if I am wrong.
Passport CAN be sent out of home country if the destination is EMBASSY or HIGH COMMISSION. I have confirmed information on this.

If you disagree with what my views are, I respect the difference of opinions. I just wanted to help you.

But as you already have tons of information, I suppose I do not have any role to play.

My best wishes are always with you, Harry. :)
 

Harry_Putter

Star Member
Mar 29, 2015
133
7
India
Visa Office......
Warsaw & Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21 Nov 2014
AOR Received.
17 Mar 2015
File Transfer...
12 Feb 2015 to Warsaw. August 2015 to Delhi
Med's Request
09 May 2015
Med's Done....
12 May 2015, TLU 20 May 2015
Interview........
Additional docus requested by NDVO on 11 Sept 2015, submitted on 22 Sept 2015
Passport Req..
09 Nov 2015 DM - 07 Nov 2015
VISA ISSUED...
Recvd COPR 13 Nov 2015
bluestone said:
Passport CAN be sent out of home country if the destination is EMBASSY or HIGH COMMISSION. I have confirmed information on this.

If you disagree with what my views are, I respect the difference of opinions. I just wanted to help you.

But as you already have tons of information, I suppose I do not have any role to play.

My best wishes are always with you, Harry. :)
Thank you for the kind words bluestone. I guess your misconceptions are now clear.
All the best and good luck.

- Harry
 

Samfswquery

Star Member
Dec 1, 2014
100
8
Harry_Putter said:
Hi bluestone:

Pl find my answers in red below.




It is a Misconception.

Firstly, offloading decision is not taken by NDVO. It is taken by CIC.

Workload distribution is done worldwide based on recommendations of the visa offices. CHC has a global processing system

Secondly, physical documentation and rights to access our files are only with wvo. (Try to raise CSE to NDVO, you'll never get response)

I have raised CSE on NDVO in the past and they have replied back

Thirdly, it is the Visa Officer who decides upon the file, not ndvo or wvo as a whole.

It is the Canadian high commission of the home country who stamps the visa if you are present in your home country. Visa officers can reside anywhere

Fourthly, PPR mail suggests to submit passport to ndvo because it is the nearest visa office to us. Those Indians who are physically in Middle East on employment have been instructed to send their passport to wvo directly.

People residing in India cannot send their passports outside their home country. It is against law and also mentioned on our passports. Those residing outside cannot courier their passports back and forth from their home country so they are asked to send it to Warsaw.

You seems all correct on everything ,for this one I would add ,Something very obvious is if someone is living in India ,why would he send passport to a VO outside country and for others who live outside India ,its not they can just send the passport to Warsaw but they can send it to any nearest VO all over the world applies the same.Just you need to fulfill the requirements of that particular VO.

NDVO can do back end jobs for WVO like background check etc. But taking decision is sole authority of vo who is handling your file, except, transfer of file to other vo.

This is of course true that the authority resides with Visa Officer at Warsaw but mostly for background checks ,especially where they had a doubt in some applications ,they send the files to NDVO for employment background checks ,if its positive Warsaw takes a positive decision ,Just adding I think what you said was correct


Friends please share your views on this and please correct me if I am wrong.
 

bluestone

Hero Member
May 19, 2015
301
21
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO/WVO
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-09-2014
Nomination.....
PER 12-01-2015
IELTS Request
Submitted with Application
File Transfer...
SLU Started Processing on 22-04-2015
Med's Request
07-05-2015
Med's Done....
19-05-2015 Med's Received 30-05-2015
Interview........
Expected to be waived...!! DM on 05-08-2015
Passport Req..
04-08-2015
VISA ISSUED...
Passport submitted on 06-08-2015 and received back with visa on 18-08-2015
LANDED..........
28-10-2015
Harry_Putter said:
Thank you for the kind words bluestone. I guess your misconceptions are now clear.
All the best and good luck.

- Harry
I do not have misconceptions, in my humble opinion.

I try to avoid arguments.

Thank you for your wishes. :)
 

HMO

Hero Member
Jun 18, 2015
210
23
India
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO/warsaw
NOC Code......
0711
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15-10-2014
Doc's Request.
------
Nomination.....
21-01-2015
AOR Received.
26-02-2015
IELTS Request
submitted with docs
File Transfer...
process started on 21 April 2015 and SLU 24 April 2015
Med's Request
09-05-2015
Med's Done....
21-05-2015 & TLU 27 May 2015
Interview........
------
Passport Req..
DM 06 Aug 2015 & PPR 06 Aug 2015 , PP submitted 10 Aug 2015
VISA ISSUED...
Passport collected on 20 Aug 2015 & Visa issue 04 Aug 2015
LANDED..........
Jan/Feb 2016
Harry_Putter said:
Those who have got your PPR mail.... did you receive it from Warsaw office or Delhi Office. Who was the the sender?

- Harry
Warsaw... thanks