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Emil1

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FRENCH DRAW AGAIN, WTFFFFF

Ministerial Instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system #260– August 2, 2023

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French language proficiency (2023-1)

Number of invitations issued:
800Footnote*

Rank required to be invited to apply: 800 or above

Date and time of round: August 02, 2023 at 13:50:04 UTC

CRS score of lowest-ranked candidate invited: 435

Tie-breaking rule: July 31, 2023 at 09:57:30 UTC

If more than one candidate has the lowest score, the cut-off is based on the date and time they submitted their Express Entry profiles.
 

Shadow09

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Jul 16, 2021
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FRENCH DRAW AGAIN, WTFFFFF

Ministerial Instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system #260– August 2, 2023

See full text of Ministerial Instruction

French language proficiency (2023-1)

Number of invitations issued:
800Footnote*

Rank required to be invited to apply: 800 or above

Date and time of round: August 02, 2023 at 13:50:04 UTC

CRS score of lowest-ranked candidate invited: 435

Tie-breaking rule: July 31, 2023 at 09:57:30 UTC

If more than one candidate has the lowest score, the cut-off is based on the date and time they submitted their Express Entry profiles.
I predicted this earlier. Its pretty much over for everyone else. They will slowly turn it into a French playground, no more jobs unless you know French
 
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iSaidGoodDay

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FRENCH DRAW AGAIN, WTFFFFF

Ministerial Instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system #260– August 2, 2023

See full text of Ministerial Instruction

French language proficiency (2023-1)

Number of invitations issued:
800Footnote*

Rank required to be invited to apply: 800 or above

Date and time of round: August 02, 2023 at 13:50:04 UTC

CRS score of lowest-ranked candidate invited: 435

Tie-breaking rule: July 31, 2023 at 09:57:30 UTC

If more than one candidate has the lowest score, the cut-off is based on the date and time they submitted their Express Entry profiles.
6900 ITAs so far to French. Maybe, they stop these draws now?
 

Lord_Tony

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Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
25-03-2023
AOR Received.
07-05-2023
Med's Done....
15-05-2023
VISA ISSUED...
15-12-2023
6900 ITAs so far to French. Maybe, they stop these draws now?
I feel no it won't. it looks like a Donald Trump like syndrome has come to Canada. They want to avoid certain ethnic people from coming over, the politicians will quietly continue that I feel.
 
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Akshay778

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If the trends continue, Canada will follow Australia. The majority of International students will need to return back post education or continue studying and stay temporary forever. Sad but true
 

GandiBaat

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NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
26th September 2021
Doc's Request.
Old Medical
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
26th September 2021
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
11-01-2022
Med's Request
Not Applicable, Old Meds
Med's Done....
Old Medical
Interview........
Not Applicable
Passport Req..
22-02-2022
VISA ISSUED...
22-02-2022
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iSaidGoodDay

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If you check the comments, a lot of these commenters are actually second generation Canadians or immigrants themself. The people who are most interested in lowering the immigration are the immigrants themself!
One of the comment is from that "pretend Customs and Immigration Officer" who claims to be second gen immigrant, but seeing him/her spam the same exact comment from 4 years makes me feels he/she's not. That comment is difficult to ridicule as misleading though. Here it is (this person posts the same content from multiple account): https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/15fo84a/_/juej47a
 

GandiBaat

VIP Member
Dec 23, 2014
3,598
2,919
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
26th September 2021
Doc's Request.
Old Medical
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
26th September 2021
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
11-01-2022
Med's Request
Not Applicable, Old Meds
Med's Done....
Old Medical
Interview........
Not Applicable
Passport Req..
22-02-2022
VISA ISSUED...
22-02-2022
LANDED..........
24-02-2022
One of the comment is from that "pretend Customs and Immigration Officer" who claims to be second gen immigrant, but seeing him/her spam the same exact comment from 4 years makes me feels he/she's not. That comment is difficult to ridicule as misleading though. Here it is (this person posts the same content from multiple account): https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/15fo84a/_/juej47a
I wonder how many of them are real and how many are astro-turfing bots trying to drum up support for PP.
 

primestudio

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I wonder how many of them are real and how many are astro-turfing bots trying to drum up support for PP.
I don't think its fair to attribute bots to one particular party.
Those bots could have been associated with one or more state actor trying to stir up sentiments for their own geopolitical reason.
 

abhiram.kumar

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Dec 7, 2018
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I'm very confused by what's their plan right now: the cutoff score for 'No Program Specified' is basically going up, so it seems unless you are a part of the target draws, have a job offer (which needs LMIA), speak both French and English (which the french program should take care of), or PNP, it's pretty much impossible for you to get an ITA now from outland. I don't think even a PhD degree, which already has an ageing impact, will give you an ITA at the current score unless they do similar large draws like in March to bring down the score.

I might be a bit biased since I'm sitting at 481, but I thought it would make the most sense for them to at least maintain the 'No Program Specified' around 480 so that people who have a master's degree will have a chance from all occupations. It's not like Canada even provides some of the non-target occupations education well itself in the first place, e.g., Canada is not known for its Aerospace education. I understand the job market is small for these categories, but it's not like there are a lot of people planning to move to Canada under these categories either. It seems the target draw will only make some of the small and less 'popular' occupations have problems finding replacements down the road. That's never good...
Canada doesn’t really need other occupations. That’s the harsh reality. The country doesn’t need marketing specialists, artists, HR managers, food supervisors, fast food workers etc. right now. It needs healthcare workers, construction workers, tech workers etc. so it makes sense that for all other occupations, only the cream of the crop are required. If you don’t fill a job shortage, then you’ll have to be really good to get in. Hence, the high cut off score. Prospective immigrants will have to look at other countries if they cannot fulfill Canada’s needs. How would it benefit either Canada or new immigrants if there are no job shortage in those industries? Australia’s immigration system is structured around long term job shortages. Canada’s now following Australia’s path.
 
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abhiram.kumar

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Dec 7, 2018
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I wonder how many of them are real and how many are astro-turfing bots trying to drum up support for PP.
He makes a very solid point though. There’s been an explosion of fake students from Punjab, India. A lot of them have no intention of gaining a solid education, which should be the primary purpose of studying abroad. Their main intention is to just get into Canada by whatever way possible, including fraud and forgery. This has resulted in a sizeable temporary underclass of low wage and low skilled workers. I use the word temporary because they have close to zero chance of ever gaining permanent residency and will eventually have to go back or remain as undocumented workers. The sudden influx of these kids has caused a massive strain on the infrastructure around Ontario and BC. They’ve also created an anti - Indian sentiment among other immigrants and Canadian born people.
 

ImpatientDragon

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He makes a very solid point though. There’s been an explosion of fake students from Punjab, India. A lot of them have no intention of gaining a solid education, which should be the primary purpose of studying abroad. Their main intention is to just get into Canada by whatever way possible, including fraud and forgery. This has resulted in a sizeable temporary underclass of low wage and low skilled workers. I use the word temporary because they have close to zero chance of ever gaining permanent residency and will eventually have to go back or remain as undocumented workers. The sudden influx of these kids has caused a massive strain on the infrastructure around Ontario and BC. They’ve also created an anti - Indian sentiment among other immigrants and Canadian born people.
Agreed. Students should focus on studies but we all know how many of these students are really studying. IRCC needs to really figure out a way to stop this menace.