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[chiyakam]

I applied with my spouse and it took about a month and few days for the whole thing. I guess it also depends on how uncomplicated you make your application and the VO

Can you please post your timelines and more details about the application/your profile? Also, if you can explain how you made the application free of any possible complications - this may be useful for some of us here.

 

[ADteam]

Hello

Here is my timeline.

AOR 27th oct
Medical passed 29th October
Sch A request for me and spouse
Sch A submitted 2nd november
BGcheck in process 5th December
RPRF and PPR 8th December
RPRF paid 9th December
COPR 17th December

I would like to say that read this forum religiously, even the old posts it has lots of knowledge.

You are the best person to complete your application but if you decide to hire a lawyer, always double check your forms

Ask as many questions as you can think of. I asked some silly ones as well. But have no doubts.

Double check all your documents before uploading . For compressing the documents i used smallpdf.com

Write a Polite and very detailed LOE. It's okay if your LOE is long but it has to be easy to understand for VO. I sent it to my relatives for proof reading cause their English is better than mine. Also, if, they could understand my LOE ( they were oblivious to my situations with regards to my application) I was sure VO would too.

I followed anujgupta84 for my POF.

I will try to answer any questions if I know the answer to them. Hope this helps. Wish all the members best.

 

[chiyakam]

@ADteam: Thanks for explaining in details, those timelines are really fast! I haven't put any LOE in my application (Which was actually filed by my lawyer - I don't think she has put any LOE), not sure if that's going to impact anything but hoping that it doesn't impact my application.

 

[ibejiopad]

@ADteam: Thanks for explaining in details, those timelines are really fast! I haven't put any LOE in my application (Which was actually filed by my lawyer - I don't think she has put any LOE), not sure if that's going to impact anything but hoping that it doesn't impact my application.

You don't have to put an LOE if your application does not need it. Most applicants use it to clarify grey areas or where they might have answered YES to a statutory question. Not using one is not likely to impact your application negatively with respect to speed of processing. I reckon his super fast application has more to do with his VO than his meticulously file application. Most applications processed outside ottawa are unusually fast and I reckon his was processed outside Ottawa.

 

[yelena]

You don't have to put an LOE if your application does not need it. Most applicants use it to clarify grey areas or where they might have answered YES to a statutory question. Not using one is not likely to impact your application negatively with respect to speed of processing. I reckon his super fast application has more to do with his VO than his meticulously file application. Most applications processed outside ottawa are unusually fast and I reckon his was processed outside Ottawa.

I am stuck in ottawa

 

[okbangaram]

I am stuck in ottawa

Story of my life. Ottawa could be the reason why so many July and Aug people are still waiting for a decision.

 

[tomneversfield]

Hey Peeps... so I got the GCMS note today and it's really uneventful (on in other terms underwhelming).. I wish I had waited a week before ordering...
I submitted the order online on Nov 19th... CIC received the request, and generated the report on Nov 23rd (just two days before my BG check went into progress, Nov 25th)... The last and only note I have (pasted below) is dated Nov 9th... On Page 2, under Application Assignment there's a "due date" of Dec 13th 2015 (honestly i've seen so many fellow applicants pass their deadline by several weeks without any action, so I don't think the deadlines mean anything to us).

I wish they had received my request just 3 days later, because I would have probably been able to see how and why my BG went into progress. I'm theorizing that they had a note on Nov 24th or Nov 25th when my BG went into progress.

The only meaningful note that I have indicates that my education and police reports are OK. Unfortunately it doesn't mention my NOC code or work experience. I'll have to wait for my newly ordered GCMS notes which I expect to receive in late January. Hopefully there will be an explicit mention of whether I passed my eligibility, and whether my NOC code was accepted or not.

*** AGENT REVIEW *** POLICE CERTIFICATES R10 OK All police certificates on application; all NRT. EDUCATION DOCUMENTS ECA report verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site. ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Master's degree. Credential is consistent with level of education claimed by PA under EE Eligibility. SPOUSE'S EDUCATION ECA report verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site. ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Bachelor's degree (four years). Credential is consistent with level of education claimed by SP under EE Eligibility. AGE Applicant's age reviewed and no change from ITA to e-APR.

 

[okbangaram]

Hey Peeps... so I got the GCMS note today and it's really uneventful (on in other terms underwhelming).. I wish I had waited a week before ordering...
I submitted the order online on Nov 19th... CIC received the request, and generated the report on Nov 23rd (just two days before my BG check went into progress, Nov 25th)... The last and only note I have (pasted below) is dated Nov 9th... On Page 2, under Application Assignment there's a "due date" of Dec 13th 2015 (honestly i've seen so many fellow applicants pass their deadline by several weeks without any action, so I don't think the deadlines mean anything to us).

I wish they had received my request just 3 days later, because I would have probably been able to see how and why my BG went into progress. I'm theorizing that they had a note on Nov 24th or Nov 25th when my BG went into progress.

The only meaningful note that I have indicates that my education and police reports are OK. Unfortunately it doesn't mention my NOC code or work experience. I'll have to wait for my newly ordered GCMS notes which I expect to receive in late January. Hopefully there will be an explicit mention of whether I pass my eligibility, and whether my NOC code was accepted or not.

*** AGENT REVIEW *** POLICE CERTIFICATES R10 OK All police certificates on application; all NRT. EDUCATION DOCUMENTS ECA report verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site. ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Master's degree. Credential is consistent with level of education claimed by PA under EE Eligibility. SPOUSE'S EDUCATION ECA report verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site. ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Bachelor's degree (four years). Credential is consistent with level of education claimed by SP under EE Eligibility. AGE Applicant's age reviewed and no change from ITA to e-APR.

I had the same note that you got as the penultimate one. The day the background check turned to in-progress, I got another note which addresses:
1. FOSS Check Completed: No adverse Information
2. Experience: Minimum Requirements Satisfied
3. POF: Sufficient Settlement funds
4. No Criminal Concerns

And a comment that File is RFV.

I think if you ordered 3 days later, you would have gotten the extra note. But you can still call them up and ask about the status. Ask them to let you know if FOSS check is over and if your Experience has any issues. They might give the info.

 

[tomneversfield]

I had the same note that you got as the penultimate one. The day the background check turned to in-progress, I got another note which addresses:
1. FOSS Check Completed: No adverse Information
2. Experience: Minimum Requirements Satisfied
3. POF: Sufficient Settlement funds
4. No Criminal Concerns

And a comment that File is RFV.

I think if you ordered 3 days later, you would have gotten the extra note. But you can still call them up and ask about the status. Ask them to let you know if FOSS check is over and if your Experience has any issues. They might give the info.

Thanks much for your comment okbangaram... yeah i'm beating myself for not waiting 2-3 more days!! Was so close! And thanks for confirming my theory that we do get a new note on the day BG check turns to in progress...
Yeah you're right I won't lose anything by calling them, though i'm 80% sure they won't give me any info.. I've never heard of anyone calling before the 6 months mark (without DM) and got useful info..
What's their number? I live in the US, not Canada..
Also, what's a FOSS check?
Thanks again

 

[okbangaram]

Thanks much for your comment okbangaram... yeah i'm beating myself for not waiting 2-3 more days!! Was so close! And thanks for confirming my theory that we do get a new note on the day BG check turns to in progress...
Yeah you're right I won't lose anything by calling them, though i'm 80% sure they won't give me any info.. I've never heard of anyone calling before the 6 months mark (without DM) and got useful info..
What's their number? I live in the US, not Canada..
Also, what's a FOSS check?
Thanks again

FOSS (Field Operational Support System) database is a central repository of information on all persons who have been or are wanted to be seen by immigration staff. They will verify that nothing negative about you is present there.

Outside Canada: Call this number. 6139444000

 

[yelena]

Hey Peeps... so I got the GCMS note today and it's really uneventful (on in other terms underwhelming).. I wish I had waited a week before ordering...
I submitted the order online on Nov 19th... CIC received the request, and generated the report on Nov 23rd (just two days before my BG check went into progress, Nov 25th)... The last and only note I have (pasted below) is dated Nov 9th... On Page 2, under Application Assignment there's a "due date" of Dec 13th 2015 (honestly i've seen so many fellow applicants pass their deadline by several weeks without any action, so I don't think the deadlines mean anything to us).

I wish they had received my request just 3 days later, because I would have probably been able to see how and why my BG went into progress. I'm theorizing that they had a note on Nov 24th or Nov 25th when my BG went into progress.

The only meaningful note that I have indicates that my education and police reports are OK. Unfortunately it doesn't mention my NOC code or work experience. I'll have to wait for my newly ordered GCMS notes which I expect to receive in late January. Hopefully there will be an explicit mention of whether I passed my eligibility, and whether my NOC code was accepted or not.

*** AGENT REVIEW *** POLICE CERTIFICATES R10 OK All police certificates on application; all NRT. EDUCATION DOCUMENTS ECA report verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site. ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Master's degree. Credential is consistent with level of education claimed by PA under EE Eligibility. SPOUSE'S EDUCATION ECA report verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site. ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Bachelor's degree (four years). Credential is consistent with level of education claimed by SP under EE Eligibility. AGE Applicant's age reviewed and no change from ITA to e-APR.

well., dont know what to say. can you please check what did your criminality and backround say then? when was the due date - did your bg change to in progress around that time?

 

[tomneversfield]

well., dont know what to say. can you please check what did your criminality and backround say then? when was the due date - did your bg change to in progress around that time?

There weren't any due dates for background, criminality or any other assessment.. (just says Not started)
The only due date i saw is the Dec 13th already mentioned. Obviously nothing happened so far since Dec 13th... Hopefully my next GCMS notes will indicate what exactly happened on Dec 13th, if anything (I theorize that due dates have to do with our applications moving into and outside of their pipelines, and possibly being transferred from one person/unit to the other)

You R10 happened before mine, so a possible explanation to you not having your BG started is that it's being reviewed by several senior officers to get approval. I'm really hoping they will approve and that you'll jump to DM pretty soon without going to BG in progress. You know there's also another possible explanation.. In my professional life i've worked a lot with CRM systems (including Siebel - the same CRM system that CIC uses to process our applications).. Sometimes imperfect things happen.. Sometimes people forget to assign things or submit things.. trust me i've seen it happen every now and then... so it's also possible that your BG actually started but that the person working on it forget to select "in process".. maybe!

 

[yelena]

There weren't any due dates for background, criminality or any other assessment.. (just says Not started)
The only due date i saw is the Dec 13th already mentioned. Obviously nothing happened so far since Dec 13th... Hopefully my next GCMS notes will indicate what exactly happened on Dec 13th, if anything (I theorize that due dates have to do with our applications moving into and outside of their pipelines, and possibly being transferred from one person/unit to the other)

You R10 happened before mine, so a possible explanation to you not having your BG started is that it's being reviewed by several senior officers to get approval. I'm really hoping they will approve and that you'll jump to DM pretty soon without going to BG in progress. You know there's also another possible explanation.. In my professional life i've worked a lot with CRM systems (including Siebel - the same CRM system that CIC uses to process our applications).. Sometimes imperfect things happen.. Sometimes people forget to assign things or submit things.. trust me i've seen it happen every now and then... so it's also possible that your BG actually started but that the person working on it forget to select "in process".. maybe!

I really hope you are right.. I actualy have two notes in mine, one before R10 and the second one that is the actual R10.:
NOTES : 1
Created date: 2015/10/26 23:31:26
Created by da01121
Updated date: 2015/10/26 23:31:26
Restricted: no
Label: general
Office: centralized Intake Office
Text:
AGENT REVIEW** POLICE CERTIFICATES R10 OK All police certificates on application: folowinf PC’s NRT Croatia and UK. EDUCATIONAL DOCUMENTS ECA report verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site. ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Bachelor’s degree ( three years). Credential is consisten with level od education claimed by PA under EE Eligibility. SPOUSE’S EDUCATION NO ECA OR CANADIAN CREDENTIAL PROVIDED. AGE Applicant’s age reviews and no change from ITA to e-APR.

NOTES : 2
Created date: 2015/10/23 23.30.51
UPDATED by C4735
Updated date: 2015/10/23 23:30:51
Restricted: no
Label: general
Office: centralized Intake Office
Text:
REVIEW TYPE: support service agent APPLICATION: E000XXXXXXXX REGULATION: FSW I have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. EXPRESS ENTRY – APLICATION SENT FOR R10 REVIEW MIN score: 451 – ITA Score: 455 PRINICIPAL APPLICANT APPLICATION PROMOTED: New UCI created SPOUSE/CL APPLICATION PROMOTED: New UCI created DEPENDENT 1 ( XXXXXXX-2007) APPLICATION PROMOTED: New UCI Created DEPENTEND 2 (XXXXXXXX-2013) APPLICATIION PROMOTED: New UCI Created REVIEW NOTES FOR REPRESENTATIVE: NO Representation MEDICA ATTACHED: Yes CLIENT FEES: Paid APPLICANT HAS CANADICAN DEPENDENT (S): No PA HAS CANADICAN EDUCATION CREDENTIALS: No PA HAS ECA WITH ACCOMPANYING FOREING CREDENTIAL: Yes LANGUAGES: Principal Applicant: - English: IELTS – Received : Met Threshold DOCUMENTS SET FOR REVIEW: Education Documents Police Certificates

I have due dates all over the place, and some are not relevant at all.. for example, I have a due date under my RPFR, and I paid those upfront:
FEES 2:
Create date 2015/10/23
Updated date: 2015/10/23
: status : Paid
Amount paid: 550
Fee. Pa, other
Code: RFR
Code update date: 2015/10/23
Due date: 2015/11/07

Trying to make some sence in all of this :7

 

[Gabbana]

Thanks much for your comment okbangaram... yeah i'm beating myself for not waiting 2-3 more days!! Was so close! And thanks for confirming my theory that we do get a new note on the day BG check turns to in progress...
Yeah you're right I won't lose anything by calling them, though i'm 80% sure they won't give me any info.. I've never heard of anyone calling before the 6 months mark (without DM) and got useful info..
What's their number? I live in the US, not Canada..
Also, what's a FOSS check?
Thanks again

Check the recent posts from the August Thread. We were successful in calling. There are tips there

 

[tomneversfield]

I really hope you are right.. I actualy have two notes in mine, one before R10 and the second one that is the actual R10.:
NOTES : 1
Created date: 2015/10/26 23:31:26
Created by da01121
Updated date: 2015/10/26 23:31:26
Restricted: no
Label: general
Office: centralized Intake Office
Text:
AGENT REVIEW** POLICE CERTIFICATES R10 OK All police certificates on application: folowinf PC’s NRT Croatia and UK. EDUCATIONAL DOCUMENTS ECA report verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site. ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Bachelor’s degree ( three years). Credential is consisten with level od education claimed by PA under EE Eligibility. SPOUSE’S EDUCATION NO ECA OR CANADIAN CREDENTIAL PROVIDED. AGE Applicant’s age reviews and no change from ITA to e-APR.

NOTES : 2
Created date: 2015/10/23 23.30.51
UPDATED by C4735
Updated date: 2015/10/23 23:30:51
Restricted: no
Label: general
Office: centralized Intake Office
Text:
REVIEW TYPE: support service agent APPLICATION: E000XXXXXXXX REGULATION: FSW I have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. EXPRESS ENTRY – APLICATION SENT FOR R10 REVIEW MIN score: 451 – ITA Score: 455 PRINICIPAL APPLICANT APPLICATION PROMOTED: New UCI created SPOUSE/CL APPLICATION PROMOTED: New UCI created DEPENDENT 1 ( XXXXXXX-2007) APPLICATION PROMOTED: New UCI Created DEPENTEND 2 (XXXXXXXX-2013) APPLICATIION PROMOTED: New UCI Created REVIEW NOTES FOR REPRESENTATIVE: NO Representation MEDICA ATTACHED: Yes CLIENT FEES: Paid APPLICANT HAS CANADICAN DEPENDENT (S): No PA HAS CANADICAN EDUCATION CREDENTIALS: No PA HAS ECA WITH ACCOMPANYING FOREING CREDENTIAL: Yes LANGUAGES: Principal Applicant: - English: IELTS – Received : Met Threshold DOCUMENTS SET FOR REVIEW: Education Documents Police Certificates

I have due dates all over the place, and some are not relevant at all.. for example, I have a due date under my RPFR, and I paid those upfront:
FEES 2:
Create date 2015/10/23
Updated date: 2015/10/23
: status : Paid
Amount paid: 550
Fee. Pa, other
Code: RFR
Code update date: 2015/10/23
Due date: 2015/11/07

Trying to make some sence in all of this :7

Yeah your best bet of 'making sense' of anything is to actually get a new set of GCMS notes.. hopefully the next one will have more info.. Did you order GCMS notes again? if so, when?