Friend sponsoring New Wife

[CMLR]

OK, so I am new at this and I too am in the process of being sponsored by my husband. I am however asking in concern for a friend of ours. We have a friend who just married last week. this friend is a man who is in his late 70. He just married a much younger women, a lady about 30 years old, from a third world country. My question is how hard will it be for him to sponsor her to come to Canada. She does have a child from a previous marriage that will come with her.

For myself,I am living in Canada on an extended vistor' status. We sent in our applications about a month ago but have been told things are different for us since I am living here. I am from the United States and we have been married now for over a year and a half and had a relationship for almost 3 years before we married. How long will it take before we hear if they excepted my spouses sponsorship? WE are within a 3 year age span have grown kids so it is just the 2 of us.

 

[mikeymyke]

Well I'll tell you this, you'll have a far easier time getting sponsored than your friend's wife. 40 year age difference is huge, even for countries where age differences are common.

Also, you have 3 yr difference, relationship for 3 yrs before marriage, plus you're an American, you're virtually guaranteed to get PR. Your friend however, has a lot of work to do. What his relationship background? Married after first meeting? How long dating before proposal? His family attended the wedding or not? WHat country is the woman from?

 

[CMLR]

Many of our mutual friends have suggested that his marriage to her is all about wanting to get out of her country but he does not see it that way. I know he will have issues with depression while awaiting her ability to come live here. I did not agree with the marriage believing her to be using him and told him this in person, but he is my husbands closest friend, though he is old enough to by my husbands and my father they have been friends for years, he was our best man. So I need to support them in this new part of their lives together. Does anyone have an idea what he should expect. The age difference is actually closer to 50 years as he is getting close to 80 and she is 30 at the most.

 

[mikeymyke]

Oh goodness, 50 years! That's huge! He's going to have an uphill battle to climb for sure.

Well have you ever asked him, if he loves her so much, why doesn't he go live with her in her country? He can use his retirement and savings, and his money will go a long way in a 3rd world country where costs are cheaper.

And CMLR, as an American, there's no point in applying inland, you should go outland.

 

[CMLR]

My husband has actually suggested that to his friend, but the friend does not want to live there, Our friend would appear to most people as rich though we know he is not as rich as he seems but he does have the lifestyle of riches and to live third world would cause him huge stress I am sure. As to their age difference I told him he is older than my father and she is the age of my daughter and it is just wrong to think about. I got told several times that is only the thought process of western world adults not the world as a whole. That in many places they would be fine with that age gap. I say yes maybe if it was 20-25 instead of 50. But I know I have to find ways to support them as she does not speak English very well and he does not speak Spanish more than a few words. There will be cultural differences both due to age and countries of origin and he does not have a lot of close friends. Does anyone have any idea what kinds of things are asked in interviews. I have been told I might not have one, by our immigration specialist, since I am from the USA but that our friend will have one for sure.

 

[CMLR]

We applied inland since the process overall is much shorter. For the process to take place outside of Canada the first step would have been 30 months instead of 10 months. We looked long and hard on it to decide what to do. Also originally we were going to live in the USA not Canada but after really looking into things we felt Canada would be better in the long run.

 

[mikeymyke]

Really I hate to say it, but I don't think your friend has any good chance of sponsoring his wife. Just the super large age difference and the fact they can't communicate in a common language will be difficult to overcome. His family attended the wedding or no?

If he likes to live in lifestyle of riches, then actually, he would benefit more from living in a 3rd world country, because his money goes further there, he can afford more things and live like a king. Has he even planned on what he's going to do if his wife doesn't get PR? And more importantly, does his wife accept him living with her in her country? Or is she just seemingly hellbent on coming to Canada?

 

[rhcohen2014]

We applied inland since the process overall is much shorter. For the process to take place outside of Canada the first step would have been 30 months instead of 10 months. We looked long and hard on it to decide what to do. Also originally we were going to live in the USA not Canada but after really looking into things we felt Canada would be better in the long run.

hate to tell you this, but this is completely WRONG! Outland applications from the US are processed in Ottawa NOT LA, and currently the trend (from tracking on this forum) is the applicant landing in 8-10, possily 12 months. Currently applicants on this forum from September - December 2013 are receiving PPR, COPR, and landing. The 30 months you quote is from LA processing. US applications don't go there unless there is a specific reason (ie: relationship validity/criminial issues).

Inland is WAY longer than that! You have at least 8 months for stage 1 approval, which has an increasing wait time right now, and at least another 8 months for stage 2 approval. The wait for working legally is pretty much the same for inland and outland processing in this situation. It is usually NOT recommended for US applicants (or any visa exempt applicant) to apply inland, as there is no true benefit. I'm afraid you received some pretty bad advice.

 

[CMLR]

He has given her CD's to learn English he did this on this trip he just made. They were to have gotten married months ago but because he is a from a different country he had to prove a lot of things, like were he was born and that he was no longer married. He did not take the paper work with him that time, even though my husband told him to take everything he felt he had sent everything that the attorney needed in order to marry them. None of his family or friends have ever gone to Cuba for a visit so none of them have ever met her. We have seen pictures of her and of them together. One time not long ago our friend was talking to his lady and handed the phone to my husband who told me later that he thought she did pretty good with her English, however for a long time I know our friend and his lady were using translation software on their phones and computers in order to know what the other person was saying. They met about 2 years ago and the second time he was down there he asked her to marry him. Only her family have ever met him, maybe a couple of friends of her's. Only her family about 15 people, were present at the wedding. I am not saying it has to be a big wedding, as mine was very small, only about 15 people. We could not afford a big wedding and did not want to upset anyone in my large family so we only invited our kids and a few friends we both knew well.

Our friend will not give up his huge house and has said he could never live there as it is too primitive to his taste. When he goes there he stays in All inclusive resorts that are top of the line and even then sometimes we hear him complain.

 

[CMLR]

We know we have a 10 month approval for stage one however after that I can get a work permit and I can apply for insurance. We have a very good immigration specialist who also helped me get a 1 year visitor extension so I do not have to leave. We did not want to have to maybe wait the 30 months since we are both in our 50's and I want to be working again as soon as possible.

 

[rhcohen2014]

We know we have a 10 month approval for stage one however after that I can get a work permit and I can apply for insurance. We have a very good immigration specialist who also helped me get a 1 year visitor extension so I do not have to leave. We did not want to have to maybe wait the 30 months since we are both in our 50's and I want to be working again as soon as possible.

That is what i'm trying to tell you - The wait time for US applications IS NOT 30 MONTHS! US applications are processed in Ottawa, so US applicants want to check the processing times for OTTAWA NOT LA for determining how long the wait is. ONLY APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE RED FLAGS OR A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE GET PROCCESSED IN LA. Where US applications are processed is explained in the guide if you know where to look for it. It would concern me if i hired a consultant and they didn't know that information.

As mentioned above, and as proved in THIS forum, US applicants are LANDING AS PR and ABLE TO WORK LEGALLY at that point in 8-10, sometimes 12 months. There are many outland applicants who stay in canada as a visitor the entire processing by extending their visit.

Getting OHIP insurance after AIP stage 1 inland approval is a tough feat. Some provinces don't allow it, and it is VERY difficult to get when you are not a PR. I hope your consultant has given you good information about how to achieve that. From what I've read, OHIP does not make it easy!

I would really recommend researching on this forum for information about these things rather than asking a consultant. the people on these forums are going through the process and appear to be more knowledgeable of the rules and process than attorneys and consultants. This seems to be a common observation made on this forum.

 

[Kev1n]

We know we have a 10 month approval for stage one however after that I can get a work permit and I can apply for insurance. We have a very good immigration specialist who also helped me get a 1 year visitor extension so I do not have to leave. We did not want to have to maybe wait the 30 months since we are both in our 50's and I want to be working again as soon as possible.

rhcohen is is spot on in what he is saying, that you should of applied outland.

 

[rhcohen2014]

rhcohen is is spot on in what he is saying, that you should of applied outland.

at this point it doesn't matter what "should have" been done, as it can't be undone. What the concern is the information this consultant is providing. It doesn't seem to be very good. Its seems to be much more successful to use this forum to navigate the process and settlement.

 

[mikeymyke]

Our friend will not give up his huge house and has said he could never live there as it is too primitive to his taste. When he goes there he stays in All inclusive resorts that are top of the line and even then sometimes we hear him complain.

Then on the context of the entire relationship, he will be refused after the interview, as CIC usually asks "What will you do should I refuse this application?" The worst possible answer, aside from "I don't know", is "I refuse to live anywhere but Canada"

 

[CMLR]

I just found this forum and we looked into consultants a couple of times we did not go with the first one we met as they did not seem to know answers to any of our questions. We spent months getting all the paperwork in order and double checking that we had everything we needed. I am glad to have found the forum board for now.