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diptu

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Hi,

I landed in Canada in Oct 2012 and got my PR card in Dec 2012.

My PR card expires Dec 2017.

I was in Canada for a period of 15 days after landing. I left after 15 days and didn't come back till Oct 2015.

I have to leave canada for a period of 10 days.

Request your advise on whether i can leave canada for a period of 10 days and return back with any issues from immigration.

Thanks
D.C
 
If your card expires in December 2017, and you came back in October, then you are still able to meet your residency obligation. You have something like two months of history, and two years left to meet the residency obligation.

They may lecture you, but you won't lose Permanent Residency if you travel.

Edit: Misread your post - for some reason, I thought you stayed until you had your PR card. If so, this would have been correct.
 
Hi kateg,

Thanks for the information.

I was told days will be counted from the day I landed. Just wanted to confirm that days will be counted till the expiry of the card and not the day of landing.

Should I take any proof of residence when i leave, i have a drivers license and a health card. Should i take a copy of my rent agreement with me when i leave canada?
 
Hi,

I landed in Canada in Oct 2012 and got my PR card in Dec 2012.

My PR card expires in Dec 2017.

I was in Canada for a period of 15 days after landing. I left after 15 days and didn't come back till Oct 2015.

I have to leave Canada for a period of 10 days.

Request your advise on whether I can leave Canada for a period of 10 days and return back with any issues from immigration.

Any Confirmation of the above would be highly appreciated.

Thanks
D.C
 
diptu said:
I was told days will be counted from the day I landed. Just wanted to confirm that days will be counted till the expiry of the card and not the day of landing.

Should I take any proof of residence when i leave, i have a drivers license and a health card. Should i take a copy of my rent agreement with me when i leave canada?

No, the PR card expiry date has NOTHING to do with you meeting the RO. The RO began the day you landed in Oct 2012.


diptu said:
I landed in Canada in Oct 2012

I was in Canada for a period of 15 days after landing. I left after 15 days and didn't come back till Oct 2015.

I have to leave Canada for a period of 10 days.

You need to provide exact dates.
 
diptu said:
Hi kateg,

Thanks for the information.

I was told days will be counted from the day I landed. Just wanted to confirm that days will be counted till the expiry of the card and not the day of landing.

Should I take any proof of residence when i leave, i have a drivers license and a health card. Should i take a copy of my rent agreement with me when i leave canada?

There are two rules for counting:

1) For the first five years since landing, you need to demonstrate that you could meet the five years.
2) After the first five years, you need to demonstrate that you did meet the five years, in the past five years.

Pragmatically, the agents at the border will tend to go off those dates, because that is what they see at primary. They will likely do the math similarly to how I did it.

If you landed in October, and returned in October, then you are going to be plus or minus a few days in whether you can make the cutoff. If it's on the minus side, you technically could lose your permanent residency. As the other poster said, exact dates would help.

That being said, when you go to primary the officers generally look and see if your card has two years or less on it. If it has more than two years, they ignore residency, and if it has less, they start to pay attention. You're right at the border, and unless they take the time to dig, looking at your card they will see more than two years on your card.

Should they bother to dig, they tend to be more forgiving of people on their first PR card, as it can take time to get established in Canada. They are also lot more forgiving of people short a day or two than people significantly short.

My advice (for what it is worth) is that it is highly likely you will be fine. I would, however, recommend that you defer your trip if you can until you have enough time. It should only take a couple days - as long as you can have two years in the first five years, you are free to enter and leave without risk.
 
I entered Canada on 15th oct 2012. Left on 30th oct 2012. (total duraion of stay 14 or 15 days)

Re-entered canada on 10th oct 2015.

My card expiry is 15th december 2017.

I would need to go out of canada for 10 days.

What is the total amount i can be out of canada
 
From your dates, if you stay in Canada, you will have about 20 days above the RO.
 
diptu said:
So I can still go out of Canada for 20 days.

Technically yes but you should not leave it until the last day to return because a simple problem like a flight getting cancelled due to bad weather etc. could put you at risk of not meeting the RO. If you only need 10 days, then leave for 10 days. Don't gamble and leave for 20.