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Expecting Child before VISA expiry date (COPR received)

Feb 12, 2018
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Hello Experts,

We have a situation and need guidance from fellow members. I have found some answers from existing threads however not all.

We have already received our COPRs in April'18, with visas expiring on 31 Jan 2019. Our landing is still pending. Recently we learnt that my wife is pregnant, expecting our first child (expected delivery date is 19th Dec 2018). I informed CIC about the pregnancy and received the following response:

Please consider the following options:
1) If you are able to land and deliver the child in Canada, then the child will be a Canadian citizen, and no further action will be required.
2) If you are not able to deliver the child in Canada, then your COPRs and visas will be cancelled and your file will be re-opened for further processing, in order to add your child to your application after he/she is born.
Please advise how you would like to proceed


I am thinking of opting for option2 as we cannot land before the delivery. However I have some questions around this:
1. Apart from retaking medical, updating POF and submitting documents related to the child. is there any other documentation related to me or my wife that needs to be redone ? (IELTS, PCC etc) ?
2. If we receive new COPRs/Visa, our landing date will get extended based on when the medicals were re-taken. Is this right ?
2. Are are any other caveats of choosing this option that I should consider before making this choice ?

Just to let you know that we have some commitments in our present country of residence and due to this, moving to Canada before Jan next year is not possible for us.

Need inputs so that we can respond to the email within 7 days.

Thanks for your time and appreciate your response.
 

vensak

VIP Member
Jul 14, 2016
3,857
1,004
120
Category........
Visa Office......
Vienna
NOC Code......
1225
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
You have option 3:
Land as soon as possible (just a short landing) and then sponsor your child once you want to move to Canada. Sponsoring newborn is very easy and rather fast. (within 3 - 4 months). That way you can move to Canada and your wife will move a little bit later once the child is sponsored.

The time difference between this option and postponing your landing is not very significant. It will also allow you to setup things in Canada for your family.
 
Feb 12, 2018
17
7
You have option 3:
Land as soon as possible (just a short landing) and then sponsor your child once you want to move to Canada. Sponsoring newborn is very easy and rather fast. (within 3 - 4 months). That way you can move to Canada and your wife will move a little bit later once the child is sponsored.

The time difference between this option and postponing your landing is not very significant. It will also allow you to setup things in Canada for your family.
Thanks for your response. Yes, we did consider this option earlier but had to keep it low in our list due to some very specific visa related restrictions (entry/exit) in our present country of residence. Because of the same reason, earlier(prior to the pregnancy news) we were planning to get our landing done in January 2019 and not before that .

Hence , the best option for us as of now is Option 2 above. I am trying to understand any other caveats related to this option apart from the ones mentioned in my original post , so that if need be, I can start looking at option 3 and work around it.
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
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2,156
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Thanks for your response. Yes, we did consider this option earlier but had to keep it low in our list due to some very specific visa related restrictions (entry/exit) in our present country of residence. Because of the same reason, earlier(prior to the pregnancy news) we were planning to get our landing done in January 2019 and not before that .

Hence , the best option for us as of now is Option 2 above. I am trying to understand any other caveats related to this option apart from the ones mentioned in my original post , so that if need be, I can start looking at option 3 and work around it.
One thing that you should also consider, even though it's a very remote possibility. If the child is, for any reason, medically inadmissible to Canada due to excessive medical demands, you all become inadmissible under option 2. This is not the case for options 1 or 3.
 
Feb 12, 2018
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One thing that you should also consider, even though it's a very remote possibility. If the child is, for any reason, medically inadmissible to Canada due to excessive medical demands, you all become inadmissible under option 2. This is not the case for options 1 or 3.
Thanks for your response. Yes, that's a risk we are willing to take after evaluating other risks associated with the other options. Risk associated with our visa issues and its probability is far greater than this risk and will have immediate impact on our present state, hence tilting towards Option 2.
 

medwiz

Hero Member
May 25, 2014
406
58
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
0311
AOR Received.
04-03-2018
Passport Req..
25-06-2018
Hello Experts,

We have a situation and need guidance from fellow members. I have found some answers from existing threads however not all.

We have already received our COPRs in April'18, with visas expiring on 31 Jan 2019. Our landing is still pending. Recently we learnt that my wife is pregnant, expecting our first child (expected delivery date is 19th Dec 2018). I informed CIC about the pregnancy and received the following response:

Please consider the following options:
1) If you are able to land and deliver the child in Canada, then the child will be a Canadian citizen, and no further action will be required.
2) If you are not able to deliver the child in Canada, then your COPRs and visas will be cancelled and your file will be re-opened for further processing, in order to add your child to your application after he/she is born.
Please advise how you would like to proceed


I am thinking of opting for option2 as we cannot land before the delivery. However I have some questions around this:
1. Apart from retaking medical, updating POF and submitting documents related to the child. is there any other documentation related to me or my wife that needs to be redone ? (IELTS, PCC etc) ?
2. If we receive new COPRs/Visa, our landing date will get extended based on when the medicals were re-taken. Is this right ?
2. Are are any other caveats of choosing this option that I should consider before making this choice ?

Just to let you know that we have some commitments in our present country of residence and due to this, moving to Canada before Jan next year is not possible for us.

Need inputs so that we can respond to the email within 7 days.

Thanks for your time and appreciate your response.
It would be really harsh if you had to retake IELTS (even if by the time they reprocess your file your results would have expired) I'm pretty sure they won't ask you to do it..but i'm not 100 percent definite on that. But updated PCC might be needed to cover the duration while waiting for the baby's due date.. And of course as u mentioned new POF to account for the additional family member
And yes due to this delay everyone will need new medicals including baby and the new visa will have a new expiry date accordingly . All the best
 
Feb 12, 2018
17
7
It would be really harsh if you had to retake IELTS (even if by the time they reprocess your file your results would have expired) I'm pretty sure they won't ask you to do it..but i'm not 100 percent definite on that. But updated PCC might be needed to cover the duration while waiting for the baby's due date.. And of course as u mentioned new POF to account for the additional family member
And yes due to this delay everyone will need new medicals including baby and the new visa will have a new expiry date accordingly . All the best
Thanks for your response. Yes, I echo your thoughts about IELTS. As per CIC website and other sources, IELTS should be valid at the time of AOR, which was true for our case. Even if it gets expired during the process (after AOR), CIC doesnt ask for another IELTS. Moreover, our applications are already approved and it just the addition of the child. I feel the same holds for PCC but need to wait and see. Medicals are a different thing as the expiry decides the landing date hence they should be retaken.

Someone who has gone through this process may confirm this.
 

canuck_in_uk

VIP Member
May 4, 2012
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London
App. Filed.......
06/12
Thanks for your response. Yes, I echo your thoughts about IELTS. As per CIC website and other sources, IELTS should be valid at the time of AOR, which was true for our case. Even if it gets expired during the process (after AOR), CIC doesnt ask for another IELTS. Moreover, our applications are already approved and it just the addition of the child. I feel the same holds for PCC but need to wait and see. Medicals are a different thing as the expiry decides the landing date hence they should be retaken.

Someone who has gone through this process may confirm this.
Given the length of time between your previous PCCs and the expected date of receiving your new documents, it is very likely that you will be requested to submit new PCCs.
 

birdyspike

Member
Feb 3, 2018
14
16
Hello Experts,

We have a situation and need guidance from fellow members. I have found some answers from existing threads however not all.

We have already received our COPRs in April'18, with visas expiring on 31 Jan 2019. Our landing is still pending. Recently we learnt that my wife is pregnant, expecting our first child (expected delivery date is 19th Dec 2018). I informed CIC about the pregnancy and received the following response:

Please consider the following options:
1) If you are able to land and deliver the child in Canada, then the child will be a Canadian citizen, and no further action will be required.
2) If you are not able to deliver the child in Canada, then your COPRs and visas will be cancelled and your file will be re-opened for further processing, in order to add your child to your application after he/she is born.
Please advise how you would like to proceed


I am thinking of opting for option2 as we cannot land before the delivery. However I have some questions around this:
1. Apart from retaking medical, updating POF and submitting documents related to the child. is there any other documentation related to me or my wife that needs to be redone ? (IELTS, PCC etc) ?
2. If we receive new COPRs/Visa, our landing date will get extended based on when the medicals were re-taken. Is this right ?
2. Are are any other caveats of choosing this option that I should consider before making this choice ?

Just to let you know that we have some commitments in our present country of residence and due to this, moving to Canada before Jan next year is not possible for us.

Need inputs so that we can respond to the email within 7 days.

Thanks for your time and appreciate your response.
Hi canada_dream,

I am in a similar situation as yours. My family COPR is expiring on April 25th, 2019 and we are expecting our second child in the first week of April. Both me and my wife are on H1B here in the US. Since June of 2018 her H1B transfer has been pending for various reasons like RFE and other issues, therefore she is unable to travel out of the US. We waited till now to see if her RFE gets resolved for us to travel, but it has not happened and is too late now. Can you please let me know how your situation played out? I would greatly appreciate your help!
 

Rajanila

Full Member
Jan 19, 2018
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5
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FSW
From this forum, it is clear that re-opening the application for adding new born child require
1. Re-taking medical test for Primary and Secondary and Medical test for baby
2. POF - Provide the recent POF for no of applicants
3. Application fees for additional person

Question is:
1. IELTS - Need to retake?
2. PCC- Need to retake?


Experts and who came across, answer please........................
 

lampbreaker

Champion Member
Apr 7, 2015
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Only the child needs to undergo medical, not the parents. If the parent's medicals are expiring, IRCC will specifically ask for those. No need to do thos unless asked. Same for POF, it will be specifically asked.

As for IELTS and PCC, IELTS scores are valid for 2 years and frozen at ITA. PCC also needs to be recent as of the date of submission and not afterwards. If they need more recent documents, they will ask for those.