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Example Job title match but Job description doesnt match my NOC 2145

muc

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Dec 26, 2011
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Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2145
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-09-2013 & returned, Reapplied 08-04-2014
Doc's Request.
19-06-2014
IELTS Request
Sent
File Transfer...
17-06-2014
Med's Request
11-08-2014
Med's Done....
27-02-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
12-03-2015
VISA ISSUED...
21-04-2015
LANDED..........
Expected JUNE 2015
I am a Mud Engineer (Drilling Fluid Engineer) which does fall under 2145 Petroleum engineers (mud engineer – petroleum drilling in all titles).

The problem is that the duties of a mud engineer are quite different from those specified on the NOC 2145 page.
I can partially justify just one duty: Direct and monitor oil and gas drilling operations (which includes mud)

I am preparing documents to apply next month for NOC 2145 but many people say that you need to match at least 80% of job responsibilities but I am pretty sure that almost all subcategories of petroleum engrs like reservoir, production, drilling, subsea can match 2-3 responsibilities if they are honest.

I am working in a multinational and they will never write something else other than my real duties.

Please advise if this is OK.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
92,538
20,358
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
The title of your job isn't important. It's the responsibilities that are important. If your duties only match one responsibility for NOC 2145, I think you may have difficulty being approved.
 

muc

Star Member
Dec 26, 2011
58
1
123
Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2145
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-09-2013 & returned, Reapplied 08-04-2014
Doc's Request.
19-06-2014
IELTS Request
Sent
File Transfer...
17-06-2014
Med's Request
11-08-2014
Med's Done....
27-02-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
12-03-2015
VISA ISSUED...
21-04-2015
LANDED..........
Expected JUNE 2015
Petroleum engg is a very vast terminology. Petroleum engineers duties can belong to many specialities:
Conduct feasibility assessment studies for developing new oil and gas fields- RESERVOIR ENGINEER
Direct and monitor oil and gas drilling operations - OPERATION ENGINEER
Develop drilling programs, select sites and specify drilling fluids, bit selection, drill stem testing procedures and equipment - DRILLING ENGINEER
Direct and monitor the completion and evaluation of wells, well testing and well surveys - DRILLING ENGINEER
Design and select artificial lift machinery, and well and surface production equipment and systems, and specify programs for corrosion control and oil or gas treatment - PRODUCTION ENGINEER
Develop specifications for and monitor and supervise well modification and stimulation programs to maximize oil and gas recovery - PRODUCTION ENGINEER
Analyze reservoir rock and fluid data to design optimum recovery methods and to predict reservoir performance and reserves - RESERVOIR ENGR
Monitor and forecast oil and gas reservoir performance and recommend oil recovery techniques which extend the economic life of wells - RESERVOIR ENGR
Design, develop and co-ordinate the installation, maintenance and operation of subsea well-head and production equipment - SUBSEA ENGR

So no petroleum engr can even match half job responsibilities.
Any petroleum engr who applied for thIs NOC?
 

mitali

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Sep 7, 2008
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muc said:
Petroleum engg is a very vast terminology. Petroleum engineers duties can belong to many specialities:
Conduct feasibility assessment studies for developing new oil and gas fields- RESERVOIR ENGINEER
Direct and monitor oil and gas drilling operations - OPERATION ENGINEER
Develop drilling programs, select sites and specify drilling fluids, bit selection, drill stem testing procedures and equipment - DRILLING ENGINEER
Direct and monitor the completion and evaluation of wells, well testing and well surveys - DRILLING ENGINEER
Design and select artificial lift machinery, and well and surface production equipment and systems, and specify programs for corrosion control and oil or gas treatment - PRODUCTION ENGINEER
Develop specifications for and monitor and supervise well modification and stimulation programs to maximize oil and gas recovery - PRODUCTION ENGINEER
Analyze reservoir rock and fluid data to design optimum recovery methods and to predict reservoir performance and reserves - RESERVOIR ENGR
Monitor and forecast oil and gas reservoir performance and recommend oil recovery techniques which extend the economic life of wells - RESERVOIR ENGR
Design, develop and co-ordinate the installation, maintenance and operation of subsea well-head and production equipment - SUBSEA ENGR

So no petroleum engr can even match half job responsibilities.
Any petroleum engr who applied for thIs NOC?
Agreed, its a vast domain of responsibilities. Try to be proactive and innovative while using the terminologies from your current job. I am sure you will have enough to get you through.

Mitali
 

muc

Star Member
Dec 26, 2011
58
1
123
Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2145
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-09-2013 & returned, Reapplied 08-04-2014
Doc's Request.
19-06-2014
IELTS Request
Sent
File Transfer...
17-06-2014
Med's Request
11-08-2014
Med's Done....
27-02-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
12-03-2015
VISA ISSUED...
21-04-2015
LANDED..........
Expected JUNE 2015
I have tried to suggest that i am involved in planning, technical assistance, make sales calls and providing engineering expertise on the rigsite via a 3 page detailed description but i am still not sure if its goo enough.
Even my manager was surprised when i gave him such a long description as a guideline for letter.
He says he has never wrote such lengthy reference letters :D
 

amritgrewal

Newbie
Jul 30, 2013
7
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Job Description do not match with my Engineering Degree Responsibilities

Dear Sir,

I graduated as Petroleum Engineeer. Presently working in a Natural gas transmission company as a Pipeline Engineer. My job profile is more of a MEchanical Engineer , into designing and projects execution of Construction activities as managing activities and overview.

But in my profile it is mentioned Qualification: B.Tech (Petroleum Engineering)

I want to apply with NOC 2145 as petroleum engineer.

Please guide me under which category should i Apply !?!

I satisfy all other conditions to be eligible for application (IELTS , ECA,etc..)
 

muc

Star Member
Dec 26, 2011
58
1
123
Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2145
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-09-2013 & returned, Reapplied 08-04-2014
Doc's Request.
19-06-2014
IELTS Request
Sent
File Transfer...
17-06-2014
Med's Request
11-08-2014
Med's Done....
27-02-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
12-03-2015
VISA ISSUED...
21-04-2015
LANDED..........
Expected JUNE 2015
Apologies for such a delayed response. I had been away
But i feel if your job experience suits Mechnical Engg, you should apply for it.
 

rizmayo

Hero Member
Aug 17, 2013
912
42
Mississauga
Visa Office......
LVO
NOC Code......
0213
IELTS Request
With Application
Med's Request
16-07-2013
Med's Done....
26-08-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
03-09-2013, sent 17-09-2013, DM 06-10-2013
VISA ISSUED...
30-09-2013
muc said:
I have tried to suggest that i am involved in planning, technical assistance, make sales calls and providing engineering expertise on the rigsite via a 3 page detailed description but i am still not sure if its goo enough.
Even my manager was surprised when i gave him such a long description as a guideline for letter.
He says he has never wrote such lengthy reference letters :D
Don't try and send such non-standard letters. CIC visa officers (who are not engineers themselves) are trained to spot things as creative manipulation of job duties.

For example, one of the duties is the sample would require a senior position and no one with less then 5 years experience would be doing it and if someone with 1 year experience say they are doing it (maybe true) it makes the visa officer suspicious (does not mean rejection, but complicates the process for the applicant).

If your duties match those described in the NOC (don't worry if it is not exact, CIC only gives generalized examples) then you should not have any problems, otherwise do not apply for this NOC.

Regards,
 

amritgrewal

Newbie
Jul 30, 2013
7
0
Petroleum Engineering & Pipeline Engineer same ?? Whr to apply !!

Hello,

With studies in Petroleum Engineering i work in gas pipeline company .Now, my job responsibilities in company for an year were of Mechanical engineer( technical services & designing ) and now i look after Civil activities into pipeline construction . MY WCS education evaluation shows petroleum engineering.

There fore, pipeline engineer profile and Engineering in PETROLEUM ENGINEERING 2145 NOC, where should i apply for?? with which NOC code I should apply for.

KIndly guide the same..

Thank you
 

Joysjtang

Newbie
Jan 5, 2014
1
0
Re: Job Description do not match with my Engineering Degree Responsibilities

amritgrewal said:
Dear Sir,

I graduated as Petroleum Engineeer. Presently working in a Natural gas transmission company as a Pipeline Engineer. My job profile is more of a MEchanical Engineer , into designing and projects execution of Construction activities as managing activities and overview.

But in my profile it is mentioned Qualification: B.Tech (Petroleum Engineering)

I want to apply with NOC 2145 as petroleum engineer.

Please guide me under which category should i Apply !?!

I satisfy all other conditions to be eligible for application (IELTS , ECA,etc..)
Hi,

My situation is the same as yours, but now NOC 2132 (Mechnical Engineer) is full.

So what did you do next? Could you give me some advice?

I am very appreciate for your help!
 

muc

Star Member
Dec 26, 2011
58
1
123
Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2145
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-09-2013 & returned, Reapplied 08-04-2014
Doc's Request.
19-06-2014
IELTS Request
Sent
File Transfer...
17-06-2014
Med's Request
11-08-2014
Med's Done....
27-02-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
12-03-2015
VISA ISSUED...
21-04-2015
LANDED..........
Expected JUNE 2015
Just to put it out that even though my job responsibilities did not match, I had no problem in getting MR.
Hopefully everything goes smooth from here on as well
 
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rizmayo

Hero Member
Aug 17, 2013
912
42
Mississauga
Visa Office......
LVO
NOC Code......
0213
IELTS Request
With Application
Med's Request
16-07-2013
Med's Done....
26-08-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
03-09-2013, sent 17-09-2013, DM 06-10-2013
VISA ISSUED...
30-09-2013
muc said:
Just to put it out that even though my job responsibilities did not match, I had no problem in getting MR.
Hopefully everything goes smooth from here on as well
Wish you the best of luck.
 

Mat14

Star Member
Jun 11, 2014
143
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Dear Friendds,

I'm a well logging Engineer in Schlumberger, My manager wrote me a reference letter stating that my job duties are the following:

- Prepare and execute a Logging Job.
- Acquisition of petrophysical and geophysical data inside oil wells
- Prepare logging report to be used in predicting the Hydrocarbon quality and quantity.
- Measure the reservoir fluid pressure and permeability to be used in estimating the reservoir performance.
- Determine the casing and cement condition of the oil wells.
- Perforate the wells in order to produce the oil.

Can you please advise me if they are good or I ask him to modify some thing.

Thanks
 

arunsaha

Full Member
Sep 1, 2010
22
2
muc said:
Just to put it out that even though my job responsibilities did not match, I had no problem in getting MR.
Hopefully everything goes smooth from here on as well
Can you please share what you wrote on those 3 pages? if you mind posting here, can you please mail me at: wrongbuzz at gmail dot com ? thanks
 

Moayad Diab

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