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EE Profile suddenly became ineligible - Don't know WHY? Pls HELP!

gappy31600

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CanadaWeCome said:
Surely we'll try that but the question is why should the profile became 'ineligible' now when the fact is spouse IELTS expired on 22nd Nov 2016 and not now in Dec?
Its hard to say but maybe its checking for the date and the system thinks that the 2 years have passed and is making it ineligible. Even if spouse ielts is not mandatory but maybe because you are proving those details and since it is not valid it rendering the profile ineligible. This is only what i can think of right now looking at the info you have provided in the posts above.
 

kryt0n

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I agree. If they have expired make sure you say 'no' to if your spouse has taken ielts. See if that helps.
 

CanadaWeCome

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gappy31600 said:
Its hard to say but maybe its checking for the date and the system thinks that the 2 years have passed and is making it ineligible. Even if spouse ielts is not mandatory but maybe because you are proving those details and since it is not valid it rendering the profile ineligible. This is only what i can think of right now looking at the info you have provided in the posts above.
kryt0n said:
I agree. If they have expired make sure you say 'no' to if your spouse has taken ielts. See if that helps.
Agreed...but then even in that case it should reduce the CRS points (by 20) instead of rendering to totally ineligible (as spouse IELTS isn't mandatory requirement).

We'll try to re create the profile w/o spouse IELTS details and see today.
 

Asivad Anac

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CanadaWeCome said:
Agreed...but then even in that case it should reduce the CRS points (by 20) instead of rendering to totally ineligible (as spouse IELTS isn't mandatory requirement).

We'll try to re create the profile w/o spouse IELTS details and see today.
Recheck your work experience score under Primary NOC counting from Jan 2007 till date. Also deduct 5 points for spouse IELTS. You probably slipped below 67 by a combination of losing points for adaptability (spouse IELTS) and invalidity of work experience more than 10 years old.
 

CanadaWeCome

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Asivad Anac said:
Recheck your work experience score under Primary NOC counting from Jan 2007 till date. Also deduct 5 points for spouse IELTS. You probably slipped below 67 by a combination of losing points for adaptability (spouse IELTS) and invalidity of work experience more than 10 years old.
You are right we are loosing 5 points for adaptability (on FSW grid) but work ex wise we have 2 yrs few months exp (from 2014/07 till date) and 2007-08 (1 year complete) which adds upto more than 3 yrs.
 

Asivad Anac

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CanadaWeCome said:
You are right we are loosing 5 points for adaptability (on FSW grid) but work ex wise we have 2 yrs few months exp (from 2014/07 till date) and 2007-08 (1 year complete) which adds upto more than 3 yrs.
3 years is for thr CRS. FSW scale offers up to 15 points for 6+ years of experience (within past 10 years) under the Primary NOC. That falls to 13 (4 to 5 years) and 11 (2 to 3 years) as your past experience becomes invalid with the passage of time.
 

CanadaWeCome

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Asivad Anac said:
3 years is for thr CRS. FSW scale offers up to 15 points for 6+ years of experience (within past 10 years) under the Primary NOC. That falls to 13 (4 to 5 years) and 11 (2 to 3 years) as your past experience becomes invalid with the passage of time.
Yes, as per our calculation we assumed our exp score with 11 points only.
 

rupeshmore

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Same here, I was showing eligible till last month. Until the last change in addition of 50 points came in effect from Nov 19 2016.

WES - Vaild (Three Years University) Outside Canada.
IELTS - 7 Band overall (R7,W6,S7,L8)
CAD Exp - 1 year+ (Still working in Canada on ICT)
Outside CAD Exp: 10+
Amount: As required.

Still showing ineligible.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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CanadaWeCome said:
Yes, as per our calculation we assumed our exp score with 11 points only.
You get the following scores in the FSW points grid -

1) 24 for Language
2) 23 for Education
3) 11 for Work
4) Assuming you get 9 for age (age = 38)

Total: 67 (Pass)

This doesn't seem to be the issue. This might be one of those technical glitches (a very rare one).
 

Asivad Anac

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rajkamalmohanram said:
You get the following scores in the FSW points grid -

1) 24 for Language
2) 23 for Education
3) 11 for Work
4) Assuming you get 9 for age (age = 38)

Total: 67 (Pass)

This doesn't seem to be the issue. This might be one of those technical glitches (a very rare one).
Probably not 24 for language, not CLB 9 in each section.
 

Asivad Anac

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rajkamalmohanram said:
The member has the following score in IELTS-

IELTS: CLB 10(L9,R9,W7.5,S8.5)

Something else is at play here or it is a bug.
My bad. I was looking at the post immediately preceding your comment.

About the other member, their spouse IELTS expired leading to a 5 points drop.
 

Asivad Anac

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rupeshmore said:
Same here, I was showing eligible till last month. Until the last change in addition of 50 points came in effect from Nov 19 2016.

WES - Vaild (Three Years University) Outside Canada.
IELTS - 7 Band overall (R7,W6,S7,L8)
CAD Exp - 1 year+ (Still working in Canada on ICT)
Outside CAD Exp: 10+
Amount: As required.

Still showing ineligible.
Recalculate your FSW score.
 

CanadaWeCome

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rajkamalmohanram said:
The member has the following score in IELTS-

IELTS: CLB 10(L9,R9,W7.5,S8.5)

Something else is at play here or it is a bug.
Asivad Anac said:
Recalculate your FSW score.
Thank you guys because of you both (esp Asivad) we could figure out the issue was for FSW fall out under 67/100 due to spouse IELTS expiry.

And age is 40 and not 38.... :(

so there we lost due to IELTS (Our mistake is we didn't keep it up to date, by taking IELTS...but OINP is equally to blame due to the horrendous delays on their part, without which such scenario wouldn't have risen in the first place.

Thank you again!!!
 

kryt0n

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CanadaWeCome said:
Thank you guys because of you both (esp Asivad) we could figure out the issue was for FSW fall out under 67/100 due to spouse IELTS expiry.

And age is 40 and not 38.... :(

so there we lost due to IELTS (Our mistake is we didn't keep it up to date, by taking IELTS...but OINP is equally to blame due to the horrendous delays on their part, without which such scenario wouldn't have risen in the first place.

Thank you again!!!
Yay x