Does Canada still reserve the right to deport a naturalized citizen?
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Reading the story...
As far as I know you cannot be a PR and a citizen.
So it appears he is not a citizen and although he had PR, he no longer holds it, so he is out of status.
Seems logical to me, as he has no status and a criminal record, he could be asked to leave Canada.
As far as I know you cannot be a PR and a citizen.
So it appears he is not a citizen and although he had PR, he no longer holds it, so he is out of status.
Seems logical to me, as he has no status and a criminal record, he could be asked to leave Canada.
By google, I also found this: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Metro+musician+faces+deportation+over+crimes/4200331/story.html where it says that he is not a citizen, he is a PR. A PR can lose his status because he has committed crimes. In this case, the system has worked too slowly. They should have deported him in 2004 when he was committing crimes. It doesn't seem fair to deport him now but if the system had been more efficient, he would have been deported long ago.
I myself had a distant cousin who was living in Canada as a PR since the age of 10 or 12 years old. He was deported when he was around 50. I think there were some minor criminal offences like this guy and he was unemployed.
If those guys had bothered to get their citizenship, they would have been safe. They don't deport citizens.
I myself had a distant cousin who was living in Canada as a PR since the age of 10 or 12 years old. He was deported when he was around 50. I think there were some minor criminal offences like this guy and he was unemployed.
If those guys had bothered to get their citizenship, they would have been safe. They don't deport citizens.
This begs the question of who is really a citizen?? Someone that just filled some citizenship paper work or someone that has lived here for 32 years since age six and knows no other place. I am sure the answer is not far fetched. BS Immigration rules.
Alabaman said:
If someone wants to be a citizen of a country, surely they would apply.
I hear what you are saying but the problem is, what happens when someone who is illegal stays in a country for years without status, should they be a citizen too?
We all know there are rules, we may not like them, but they do exist.
Yes, people know that as a PR, they can be kicked out if they are bad but they often choose not to apply for citizenship anyway, sometimes because they can't be bothered or because of loyalty to their old country. Maybe their old country doesn't allow dual and they don't want to sever the ties. An additional reason might be for people who are living a life of crime and drugs that applying for citizenship just isn't on their priority list. This guy may actually have been stripped of his PR years ago but may have been hard to find because he doesn't have a steady workplace or may have been appealing for years.
If you want to be a Canadian, stay out of trouble and apply for citizenship. It is that simple. Don't want to do that, then they can kick you out.
If you want to be a Canadian, stay out of trouble and apply for citizenship. It is that simple. Don't want to do that, then they can kick you out.
Baloo said:
Yes Baloo they should be citizens too. That is why government grants amnesties. That is what they are trying to deal with in the US right now... millions of illegals... stayed in the country for years. Put down roots... some married with kids (that are US citizens). Now, how do you think the children of this guy in the article would feel towards Canada if their dad gets deported? What will happen is that they will start abhoring dislike for their country... not worth it.
Yes there are laws, rules, regulations but they are there to be changed, tweaked and fine tuned. There should be a time factor towards citizenship (illegal or legal)... it is up to the authorities to make sure illegals are deported before they "bear roots".
Alabaman said:
Sorry - I completely disagree. People make choices and should be held responsible for the choices they make and the resulting consequences.
If someone commits their first crime and authorities don't catch them, should we blame authorities if they commit subsequent crimes because they weren't caught and punished the first time?
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Many PR s dont become citizens because they cant pass the exam.But a Canadian Citizen cannot be deported unless they came to Canada under false pretenses
A Canadian citizen cannot be deported. That would violate the Charter. A naturalized citizen can be stripped of their citizenship, if they are found to have lied on their application for citizenship or the underlying application for permanent residency. Then they can be deported.