Doctor-3112.

[carl128]

To fellow doctors aspiring to practice in canada specifically ontario and to those who had landed, please check this website and share your opinion about this..

http://www.health.gov.on.ca/english/providers/ministry/recruit/repat/repat_app.html#links

 

[carl128]

I am laso thinking about newfoundland and labrador if they have the same offer to IMG from third world countries.

 

[basmalahh]

To fellow doctors aspiring to practice in canada specifically ontario and to those who had landed, please check this website and share your opinion about this..

http://www.health.gov.on.ca/english/providers/ministry/recruit/repat/repat_app.html#links

"General Eligibility:
1. Canadian Citizen or permanent resident
2. Degree from accredited medical school listed under the World Health Organization (WHO) medical school directory list
3. Offer of postgraduate training appointment from faculty of medicine in Ontario
4. Letter of Assessment from Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada (“Royal College”) specifying the length of training required for the applicant to be eligible to write the certification examinations.

This program is open to graduates of Canadian, U.S. or international medical schools.
Applicants meeting these criteria may apply to one of the following streams, based on the level of postgraduate training completed prior to the proposed residency start date.

Stream 1
For applicants who have FULLY completed postgraduate training in a program outside Canada that has been assessed and recognized by the Royal College.
1. Application for a residency position in the same specialty (For Example: completion of a core internal medicine program and applying for additional core internal medicine training)
* Require a Royal College assessment letter of candidate's postgraduate medical training outside Canada and is required up to a maximum of two years of residency training.
* ROS = year for year in an eligible community
2. Application for a residency position in a subspecialty (For Example: completion of a core internal medicine program and applying for an internal medicine subspecialty training).
* Require a Royal College assessment letter of candidate's postgraduate medical training outside Canada
* ROS = 5 years in an eligible community
** Physicians applying to Medicine or Pediatrics programs through this Steam will only be considered after the 2nd iteration of the R4 medicine/R4 Pediatrics Canadian Resident Matching Service (CaRMS) match date.

Stream 2
For applicants who have partially completed postgraduate training in a program outside Canada and their training has been assessed and recognized by the Royal College.
* Applications through Stream 2 have to be in their original specialty/subspecialty.
* Require a Royal College assessment letter of candidate's postgraduate medical training outside Canada
* ROS = 5 years in an eligible community.
** Physicians applying through this Stream will only be considered after the first and second iterations of the Canadian Resident Matching Service (CaRMS). "

Dear carl128,
First, thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Second, I had a look at the webpage you posted.. It does seem like a good opportunity, but only to the person who can afford its requirements I guess. The highlighted parts mention that the applicant should be registered in CaRMS, which isn't possible -correct me if I am wrong- until you sit & highly succeed in the MCCEE & the MCCQE1.. Am I right?

On the other hand, I would like to share this link with you, quoting Paragraph 8, & would really like to hear your views..
http://www.quadrant.net/cpss/registration/register.html#p8

Paragraph 8 - Alternative licensure for physicians with international medical qualifications.

Most physicians with international medical credentials do not meet the requirements for full, unrestricted, licensure. The Saskatchewan College's philosophy that underlies its licensing rules that permit granting alternative forms of licensure to such physicians is to:

* permit physicians who do not meet all of the criteria for full licensure, but who meet certain minimum defined standards, to enter into a form of restricted practice;
* require physicians to meet the criteria for full licensure (Royal College certification for physicians with specialist credentials, all the required postgraduate training for family physicians and the three Medical Council of Canada examinations for all physicians) within a defined time schedule;
* provide physicians the opportunity to practice on a temporary license for a period of time before being required to commit on a longer-term basis to practice in Saskatchewan, or to practice in a particular Saskatchewan community;
* provide stability of medical care by requiring physicians who obtain such alternative licenses to commit to a defined period of practice in a Saskatchewan community as a condition of obtaining such a license;
* ensure that physicians working on a temporary license have a named physician who is responsible to assist the physician in becoming aware of Saskatchewan practice issues.

Awaiting your valuable inputs,
best bye,
Basmalahh

 

[Purkoni]

I recieved a NER in Feb 23th. Though I have more than 20 years of experience , they said I didn't prove i'm a doctor ! I'm very said !! Hope my attorney will try to change the decision ! Good luck to all of you my freinds ! If you didn't send your file yet than give as more documents as possible !

Watch this my friend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6h-Ut-ZaE&playnext=1&list=PL1B5722F7863DDF9F

 

[basmalahh]

Dear doctors,

I think I understood -to a degree- how integrating into the healthcare system in Canada works..

but I still need someone (preferably already in Canada, so that his knowledge wouldn't be only theoretical) to place the whole picture of possible opportunities for a fresh graduate (with only 1 intern year of clinical practice) be in Canada as a General practitioner, family physician or get a training for residency..

Please, someone who would be kind enough, & will be most appreciated & I am sure many doctors in the forum have the same question..

best regards,
Basmalahh

 

[basmalahh]

Watch this my friend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6h-Ut-ZaE&playnext=1&list=PL1B5722F7863DDF9F

ha ha ha..


Way too pessimistic, I believe that where ever a person is, if you work hard, you'll succeed..
especially when you have good intentions & help from Allah swt (god almighty)

& especially too when you are somewhere where hard work is appreciated & I believe that is in Canada,,

 

[vasalagovind]

Hi,iam regularly following this thread.my noc 3112

appl filed 28 oct 2010
NOC 3112
vo ND
in process 12 jan 2011

administators pls include my details

regards vasala

 

[carl128]

hi, I think Saskatchewan is a viable option, but that is if your planning on landing there, between me and my wife, she has more opprtunity (medical technologist) that is why we are thinking of going to ontario first and once she is able to get her license and start earning for us, then that is the time for me to try my side. Its really hard for us IMG from third world to enter in their system but we still have to try..

Our choices are ontario and newfoundland coz those are the two places where we have firends to help us. Another option for us is newfoundland and heres the link..

http://www.cpsnl.ca/default.asp?com=Pages&id=111&m=365

My understanding is you have to pass the mccee and get a good score in TOEFLiBt and if you meet this minimum requirement then you can enter into internship 8-12 months depending on what they will prescribe.. Now, I am not that sure if while doing the program if you will have allowance and second if you can take the mccqe1 while on the program, then after finishing the program if you will be able to take mcqe2 then eventually granted a license.

 

[dr arif]

hi all

hope every ones fine

i read all the mails about practicing in canada but not clear that what is that we can do
tell u guys i am still stuck on ielts not getting the required score anyone help how can i qualify for ca i am having 63 marks missing 4

 

[basmalahh]

hi, I think Saskatchewan is a viable option, but that is if your planning on landing there, between me and my wife, she has more opprtunity (medical technologist) that is why we are thinking of going to ontario first and once she is able to get her license and start earning for us, then that is the time for me to try my side. Its really hard for us IMG from third world to enter in their system but we still have to try..

Our choices are ontario and newfoundland coz those are the two places where we have firends to help us. Another option for us is newfoundland and heres the link..

http://www.cpsnl.ca/default.asp?com=Pages&id=111&m=365

My understanding is you have to pass the mccee and get a good score in TOEFLiBt and if you meet this minimum requirement then you can enter into internship 8-12 months depending on what they will prescribe.. Now, I am not that sure if while doing the program if you will have allowance and second if you can take the mccqe1 while on the program, then after finishing the program if you will be able to take mcqe2 then eventually granted a license.

Yes, I guess that -now- it's all about where you are landing..
Since I come from a very warm country & haven't experienced v. cold countries except briefly, the weather really gets me worried.
That's why I am trying to stick to the south as much as possible. Still, the wise choice would be to cease any available opportunity, atleast till we are integrated into the system (because otherwise it is really v.hard to get into it), & for such an opportunity, a person should tolerate difficulties (for there is no reward without the hard work).

Nevertheless, my query is about whether these seemingly available options are as easy as they sound, & that's why I was hoping someone (a doctor ofcourse) from inside Canada or atleast a very informed person can tell us whether there is a catch in these openings. Are they as easy as they sound?
In Saskatchewan, they mention that you will have to stay for another period after they have trained you, for how long? & how many years is a person given in the opportunity to be trained & whether it is going to be in a big city like Saskatoon or in rural parts or as you mentioned, whether they are going to pay well for it or not?.. & is MCCEE enough to start on this program or not? are we going to be allowed to take the MCCQ1 while in it?
Now, who should I address my questions too as well?

Though many people have tried to explain the integration into health systems in Canada for immigrants. I still find it very vague
.If I were -finally- to go there & have a better understanding of it, I will try to state it better for future immigrant physicians..

but right now, though I truly appreciate our discussions which is very informative to me, I still wish someone would give us a more thorough explanation for it.

 

[Dr.Hasib]

hi all

hope every ones fine

i read all the mails about practicing in canada but not clear that what is that we can do
tell u guys i am still stuck on ielts not getting the required score anyone help how can i qualify for ca i am having 63 marks missing 4

improve your IELTS score

 

[basmalahh]

hi all

hope every ones fine

i read all the mails about practicing in Canada but not clear that what is that we can do
tell u guys i am still stuck on IELTS not getting the required score anyone help how can i qualify for ca i am having 63 marks missing 4

Dr. Aref,
You can increase your points in any field that is calculated in the point system, in your case you can either improve your IELTS (by taking many many training exams & reading books about how to ace it) & studying french & taking its exam.

You can also calculate your wife's points & if she gets better points (if she were better in English for example), then you can apply as her being the main applicant.

If you decide to try to improve your IELTS score, especially the writing & speaking parts where you had your 5s (right?), then I would be glad to help you..
The writing part is very easy to improve because there are certain sentences that you can memorize & easily incorporate in any writing topic.. While the speaking part would probably require that you train on conversing with someone.. & it also depends in a way on your examiner..
The listening, you can train on it by listening all the time to the BBC & also by knowing certain tricks,e.g. like that in the 2nd & 4th paragraphs the person usually talks faster, so you should be more attentive then..

best regards,
basmalahh

 

[carl128]

Yes, I guess that -now- it's all about where you are landing..
Since I come from a very warm country & haven't experienced v. cold countries but briefly, the weather really gets me worried.
That's why I am trying to stick to the south as much as possible. Still, the wise choice would be to cease any available option, atleast till we are integrated into the system (because otherwise it is really v.hard to get into it), & for such an opportunity, a person should tolerate difficulties (for there is no reward without the hard work).

Nevertheless, my query is about whether these seemingly available options are as easy as they sound, & that's why I was hoping someone (a doctor ofcourse) from inside Canada or atleast a very informed person can tell us whether there is a catch in these openings. Are they as easy as they sound?
In Saskatchewan, they mention that you will have to stay for another period after they have trained you, for how long? & how many years is a person given in the opportunity to be trained & whether it is going to be in a big city like Saskatoon or in rural parts or as you mentioned, whether they are going to pay well for it or not?.. & is MCCEE enough to start on this program or not? are we going to be allowed to take the MCCQ1 while in it?
Now, who should I address my questions too as well?

Though many people have tried to explain the integration into health systems in Canada for immigrants. I still find it very vague
.If I were -finally- to go there & have a better understanding of it, I will try to state it better for future immigrant physicians..

but right now, though I truly appreciate our discussions which is very informative to me, I still wish someone would give us a more thorough explanation for it.

yes, thank you too. I do hope we can hear from someone who already had experience or knowledge about. I also agree with you that somehow we both have a vague or superficial knowledge of the process. Ill try to contact my friend thru facebook, coz now I beleive hes already in practice. Hes mentioned also a former professor of ours in surgery whom he said will try to take exams, I dont know what happened next. Ill share whatever info Ill get.

 

[basmalahh]

yes, thank you too. I do hope we can hear from someone who already had experience or knowledge about. I also agree with you that somehow we both have a vague or superficial knowledge of the process. Ill try to contact my friend thru facebook, coz now I beleive hes already in practice. Hes mentioned also a former professor of ours in surgery whom he said will try to take exams, I dont know what happened next. Ill share whatever info Ill get.

I'll be waiting eagerly for any updates.. & will happily share whatever I get to with you guys..

best regards,
basmalahh

 

[fahsan]

any one who has given MCCEE??

which books should be stuided??

and from where to buy those books???keeping in mind that i belong to karachi pakistan