Could another pathway for health care workers be coming ?

[031_guy]

So among the plan for 2022-24 is the below highlighted point and also emphasized under HC. Let me know what you're think or maybe share any new info in this thread.

Highlights of the plan include:

• overall admissions amounting to 1.14% of the Canadian population by 2024.
• a long-term focus on economic growth, with nearly 60% of admissions in the Economic Class.
• help for vulnerable populations, like the special measures for granting permanent residence to refugee claimants working in health care during the pandemic.
• support for global crises by providing a safe haven through humanitarian immigration to those facing persecution.
• talent retention of those already in Canada by granting permanent status to temporary residents accepted through the time limited pathways for essential workers launched in spring 2021.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...arket-shortages-and-grow-canadas-economy.html

 

[canuck78]

So among the plan for 2022-24 is the below highlighted point and also emphasized under HC. Let me know what you're think or maybe share any new info in this thread.

Highlights of the plan include:

• overall admissions amounting to 1.14% of the Canadian population by 2024.
• a long-term focus on economic growth, with nearly 60% of admissions in the Economic Class.
• help for vulnerable populations, like the special measures for granting permanent residence to refugee claimants working in health care during the pandemic.
• support for global crises by providing a safe haven through humanitarian immigration to those facing persecution.
• talent retention of those already in Canada by granting permanent status to temporary residents accepted through the time limited pathways for essential workers launched in spring 2021.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...arket-shortages-and-grow-canadas-economy.html

Very unlikely for failed asylum seekers. There will certainly be more economic pathways for healthcare workers to immigrate from their home country or while having status in Canada. Many have not been approved in the past special pathway program. They will be counted in the numbers for 2022 and maybe 2023 depending on how long it takes to process.

 

[031_guy]

Very unlikely for failed asylum seekers. There will certainly be more economic pathways for healthcare workers to immigrate from their home country or while having status in Canada. Many have not been approved in the past special pathway program. They will be counted in the numbers for 2022 and maybe 2023 depending on how long it takes to process.

Even failed asylum claims were accepted in the last pathway . This type of policy doesn't fall under economic pathways. Based on the plan, they will fit it under HC like the last one

 

[scylla]

Very unlikely for failed asylum seekers.

Why would you say it's very unlikely? Just being negative?

The health care pathway last year covered both pending and failed refugee claimants.

 

[031_guy]

Why would you say it's very unlikely? Just being negative?

The health care pathway last year covered both pending and failed refugee claimants.

exactly.

 

[canuck78]

Why would you say it's very unlikely? Just being negative?

The health care pathway last year covered both pending and failed refugee claimants.

Many of the programs last year were geared towards accepting people already in Canada because of the pandemic. Most will not be repeated. If Canada runs multiple special programs for failed asylum seekers to secure PR In healthcare then a large number of asylum claimants will work as PSWs (just an example but due to the short training and need for workers the most common job for new arrivals in HC) because it will be an insurance policy against rejection. Many of the PSWs will not continue to be PSWs after securing PR so it won’t help with longterm labour shortages. I am sure many started working in HC after the previous program was announced in the hopes that there will be another special immigration program. The announcement posted can be misleading because a large number of the candidates for the special program are being approved in 2022 although the program was run in 2021. That wasn’t an indication that there will be other special programs. Would add that there weren’t special programs for other industries in demand of labour that employ a lot of refugee claimants like food processing trucking, etc. Many of the asylum claimants complained that HC workers were the only essential service who were rewarded by working during the pandemic. I think there will be more economic immigration programs targeting lower skilled industries where the are labour shortages but all the programs we’ve seen so far require you to have status in Canada or apply from outside Canada. In general getting asylum is dependent on being able to prove persecution. When you start accepting asylum claimants on a regular basis based on labour shortages and not because they are truly at risk the population will start questioning the program and whether the aim of the asylum program is actually being met.

 

[031_guy]

Many of the programs last year were geared towards accepting people already in Canada because of the pandemic. Most will not be repeated. If Canada runs multiple special programs for failed asylum seekers to secure PR In healthcare then a large number of asylum claimants will work as PSWs (just an example but due to the short training and need for workers the most common job for new arrivals in HC) because it will be an insurance policy against rejection. Many of the PSWs will not continue to be PSWs after securing PR so it won’t help with longterm labour shortages. I am sure many started working in HC after the previous program was announced in the hopes that there will be another special immigration program. The announcement posted can be misleading because a large number of the candidates for the special program are being approved in 2022 although the program was run in 2021. That wasn’t an indication that there will be other special programs. Would add that there weren’t special programs for other industries in demand of labour that employ a lot of refugee claimants like food processing trucking, etc. Many of the asylum claimants complained that HC workers were the only essential service who were rewarded by working during the pandemic. I think there will be more economic immigration programs targeting lower skilled industries where the are labour shortages but all the programs we’ve seen so far require you to have status in Canada or apply from outside Canada. In general getting asylum is dependent on being able to prove persecution. When you start accepting asylum claimants on a regular basis based on labour shortages and not because they are truly at risk the population will start questioning the program and whether the aim of the asylum program is actually being met.

valid points but looking at the plan, just like the TR2PR programmes ..they will be phased out. That one point already indicates that a pathway for refugee claimants has been planned. They'll probably have restrictions and only a few will end up qualifying like the last one.I guess we just have to wait and see.

 

[canuck78]

valid points but looking at the plan, just like the TR2PR programmes ..they will be phased out. That one point already indicates that a pathway for refugee claimants has been planned. They'll probably have restrictions and only a few will end up qualifying like the last one.I guess we just have to wait and see.

Why do you think it has been planned versus the number of PRs that are accepted as part of the previous special program will mostly count in the 2022 PR figures?

 

[031_guy]

Why do you think it has been planned versus the number of PRs that are accepted as part of the previous special program will mostly count in the 2022 PR figures?

That policy was for 2021 and who ever applied , got accepted in 2021/22 forms part of that 2021 not 2022 PR landing stats . Like all the figures in the new plan, they were planned and can adjust too based on who actually applied. They would not have made that above point if they had not planned on having another pathway for refugee claimants. Remember we are still in the pandemic
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[canuck78]

That policy was for 2021 and who ever applied , got accepted in 2021/22 forms part of that 2021 not 2022 PR landing stats . Like all the figures in the new plan, they were planned and can adjust too based on who actually applied. They would not have made that above point if they had not planned on having another pathway for refugee claimants. Remember we are still in the pandemic
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You aren’t counted until you get COPR or land as a PR depending on how creative you get with counting numbers.

 

[Ezekieljane]

You aren’t counted until you get COPR or land as a PR depending on how creative you get with counting numbers.

I disagree that they are talking about the pathway for 2020; they used ‘like’ which clearly changes it from being that of 2020 to something similar to that. For the Trp to Pr pathway; they clearly stated that they were going to be taking from the intake of the limited program but this was never stated for the vulnerable group. All we have to do is wait and see what happens. These are uncertain times and uncertain measures can be taken to regularize status.

 

[Copingwithlife]

Why would you say it's very unlikely? Just being negative?

The health care pathway last year covered both pending and failed refugee claimants.

In another context , everyone is not always a winner .

They said it was unlikely,not impossible.

 

[scylla]

In another context , everyone is not always a winner .

They said it was unlikely,not impossible.

The phrase was "very unlikely for failed asylum seekers". Again, why?

One of the strongest indicators of IRCC's future action is past action. Past action indicates there's certainly a chance failed asylum seekers may be included since they were part of the last program. A fair answer would have been that the previous program included them but it's uncertain / unknown if future programs will. There is no indicator that it is "very unlikely" apart from someone's personal desire for them not to be included. That attitude makes me sad.

Anyway, I'm done here.

 

[canuck78]

The phrase was "very unlikely for failed asylum seekers". Again, why?

One of the strongest indicators of IRCC's future action is past action. Past action indicates there's certainly a chance failed asylum seekers may be included since they were part of the last program. A fair answer would have been that the previous program included them but it's uncertain / unknown if future programs will. There is no indicator that it is "very unlikely" apart from someone's personal desire for them not to be included. That attitude makes me sad.

Anyway, I'm done here.

Not a personal desire for them not to be included. Think it sets a dangerous precedent to allow refused asylum claimants to be accepted under other programs because the general population will stop trusting the our asylum hearing process. This program only involved HC and not other essential industries. It would be unfair to keep rewarding only those in HC. I assume many started working in HC hoping there would be another special program and not to have a long career in HC. Calculating immigration numbers often uses creative accounting so many of the applicants for the special program will be counted as 2022 PRs.

We will all have to see. Now that global travel has returned there is no longer a need to primarily land those already in Canada to meet targets.

 

[marshacnealmarsh]

I think that for healthcare workers, the process of getting the permanent residence may actually be easier since such people are in demand everywhere. But I'm not sure if it'll be that way if the pandemic is more or less over. Moreover, people discover products like https://westcoastsupply.cc/product/hardcore-og/ to take care of their health, both mental and physical one, so who knows what'll be in the future.