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DollyM said:
Well, that's lovely. NOT! You're comparing which taxpayers will give you more handouts before you even get accepted into their country? As a dual Australian/Canadian citizen I sincerely hope you do not get accepted into either place. Immigrants are expected to pay their own way, not enter the country with their hands out and expect a free ride. >:(


"Immigrants are expected to pay their own way, not enter the country with their hands out and expect a free ride.", Well said, DollyM.
 
DollyM said:
Well, that's lovely. NOT! You're comparing which taxpayers will give you more handouts before you even get accepted into their country? As a dual Australian/Canadian citizen I sincerely hope you do not get accepted into either place. Immigrants are expected to pay their own way, not enter the country with their hands out and expect a free ride. >:(

I didn't imply "doles for immigrants", obviously. One reason for choosing to immigrate to these countries is that "tax-money" is respected there, while the same money is laundered and siphoned-off in ours. I, for one, will be glad to pay my taxes knowing that it would never fall into wrong hands. I wouldn't mind others drawing "doles" out of it too, knowing that everyone has to pass through that unemployment phase in life, to someday repay and contribute toward the country's economy, eventually.
 
DollyM said:
Well, that's lovely. NOT! You're comparing which taxpayers will give you more handouts before you even get accepted into their country? As a dual Australian/Canadian citizen I sincerely hope you do not get accepted into either place. Immigrants are expected to pay their own way, not enter the country with their hands out and expect a free ride. >:(

Hear hear..
 
xibalban said:
I didn't imply "doles for immigrants", obviously. One reason for choosing to immigrate to these countries is that "tax-money" is respected there, while the same money is laundered and siphoned-off in ours. I, for one, will be glad to pay my taxes knowing that it would never fall into wrong hands. I wouldn't mind others drawing "doles" out of it too, knowing that everyone has to pass through that unemployment phase in life, to someday repay and contribute toward the country's economy, eventually.
Wasn't it you who said "That reminds me, Australian Doles are higher than Canadian ones (if they exist i.e.)"?

If you aren't intending to collect welfare then why would you bother to comment on it in the first place? Frankly, when I emigrated to Australia handouts was the last thing my family thought about. Same as my partner applying for a visa to Canada. He's never once asked what the welfare system is like there, because he doesn't intend to put his hand out for "freebies".
 
DollyM said:
Wasn't it you who said "That reminds me, Australian Doles are higher than Canadian ones (if they exist i.e.)"?

Yes, that was me ;D
 
xibalban said:
I'm applying for Canada too, just as a backup.
PS:@jpv, we've got same IELTS scores!!

There you go !
 
https://qz.com/638881/while-americans-feud-australia-is-stealing-away-immigrants-with-sought-after-skills/
 
astralsource said:
https://qz.com/638881/while-americans-feud-australia-is-stealing-away-immigrants-with-sought-after-skills/
Thanks for the link, enjoyed reading!! Here're some excerpts from the article I liked the most:
It already has. Australia’s focus on accepting immigrants with skills is expected to add 1.6 trillion Australian dollars, or about $1.2 trillion, to its gross domestic product through 2050, the Migration Council estimates. That’s a gain of 5.9% per capita over what could have been expected without them. Rather than being a drain on the economy, Australia’s immigrants by 2050 will each contribute 10% more to it than its non-immigrants.
And so young are they, the immigrants provide a “demographic dividend” helping offset the huge number of soon-to-be-retirees that threatens Australia’s capacity—like the ability of the United States, Japan, and some European nations—to keep up with the cost of medical care and other entitlements.

Skilled immigration “has served the interests of the broader community well,” an independent advisory body, the Australian Government Productivity Commission, pronounced in November.
Australia will give permanent residency to 190,000 immigrants this year, the Department of Immigration and Border Protection reports—nearly 130,000 of them because they have skills the government or employers say are needed: information technology, for example, engineering, and accounting.
Australia has always considered immigration in economic terms,” said Andrew Markus, an historian at Monash University in Melbourne. “The dominant ethic in Australia is that immigration is good for the country.

Wow!! Feels good to discover that we, the skilled immigrants, are actually doing a favour to the host country by planning to move there. It is encouraging that countries like Australia acknowledge this fact, and understand that the right to quality of life is not restricted to only those privileged few born with a silver spoon.
 
Looks good to me. Its a shame to miss an opportunity if you have the qualifications, like the climate etc.

If you get tired of the beach, you can always come to Canada ;)
 
astralsource said:
Looks good to me. Its a shame to miss an opportunity if you have the qualifications, like the climate etc.

Australia, anyday!! Although, it is difficult to choose between the two diagonal end-points i.e. Canada (Top Left Corner) or Australia (Bottom Right Corner).

astralsource said:
If you get tired of the beach, you can always come to Canada ;)

There seem to be popular beaches in Canada too. Not sure if you can actually swim in the freezing cold ocean there, though.
 
Canada has its beauties, nature is breathtaking, there are areas that are not that cold too like you mentioned, west coast. Australia is also specific with diverse flora and fauna, like a whole different planet. I like the fact you can go anywhere you like as an immigrant, it would suck we were limited on one area only. Considering economy, those countries are far better off then most european countries.
 
astralsource said:
Canada has its beauties, nature is breathtaking, there are areas that are not that cold too like you mentioned, west coast. Australia is also specific with diverse flora and fauna, like a whole different planet. I like the fact you can go anywhere you like as an immigrant, it would suck we were limited on one area only. Considering economy, those countries are far better off then most european countries.

I wonder which regions/cities/towns in Canada would make an Aussie feel right at home, in terms of weather, beaches, sport activities, etc.
 
xibalban said:
I wonder which regions/cities/towns in Canada would make an Aussie feel right at home, in terms of weather, beaches, sport activities, etc.

Most Australians work in Whistler BC and probably Toronto as bartenders..
 
foodie69 said:
Most Australians work in Whistler BC and probably Toronto as bartenders..
Whistler, I see, is a pretty cold place. Australians prefer not to be reminded of their pleasant home climate, apparently.
 
xibalban said:
Whistler, I see, is a pretty cold place. Australians prefer not to be reminded of their pleasant home climate, apparently.

Once you live in Canada, you will understand the joke I made.. :D