compliance of the two-year condition

[riley99]

2.4 Assessing evidence of compliance of the two-year condition
To maintain their permanent resident status, the sponsored spouse or partner is required to cohabit in a conjugal relationship with their sponsor for a continuous period of two years after the day on which they became a permanent resident.
While the regulations require a “continuous” period of two years of cohabitation, from time to time, one or the other partner may leave the home for work or business travel, family obligations, and so on. CIC officers should follow existing guidelines when assessing a period of cohabitation where temporary or short separations have occurred. See OP 2, Section 5.35 for more information.

So let me get this straight - according to the way it's written i can't have a vacation on my own with my guy friends after i get married? You can only leave the home for business travel? What a joke!
So basically you aren't allowed to have a marriage where you trust each other and spend time apart time to time. Is CIC enforcing a stereotype or what of traditional 'marriage'.
What if i transferred to another city for work, and my wife took an extra month to wrap up her job. Or vice versa? This two year condition can have a big impact potentially in my opinion.
Thoughts?

 

[automaton82]

I'm not sure, but I think they mean you can't leave and then live on your own for a few months somewhere else. You must live with your spouse, but if you want to travel for a week or 2 on your own that is not a problem (would be covered by the "and so on" clause of the time to time leave).

If you're going on "vacation" every other week, that's probably also not ok.

 

[Rob_TO]

2.4 Assessing evidence of compliance of the two-year condition
To maintain their permanent resident status, the sponsored spouse or partner is required to cohabit in a conjugal relationship with their sponsor for a continuous period of two years after the day on which they became a permanent resident.
While the regulations require a “continuous” period of two years of cohabitation, from time to time, one or the other partner may leave the home for work or business travel, family obligations, and so on. CIC officers should follow existing guidelines when assessing a period of cohabitation where temporary or short separations have occurred. See OP 2, Section 5.35 for more information.

So let me get this straight - according to the way it's written i can't have a vacation on my own with my guy friends after i get married? You can only leave the home for business travel? What a joke!
So basically you aren't allowed to have a marriage where you trust each other and spend time apart time to time. Is CIC enforcing a stereotype or what of traditional 'marriage'.
What if i transferred to another city for work, and my wife took an extra month to wrap up her job. Or vice versa? This two year condition can have a big impact potentially in my opinion.
Thoughts?

You are overreacting. It states: "from time to time, one or the other partner may leave the home for work or business travel, family obligations, and so on.". They are saying you can leave for short/temporary purposes, for whatever legitimate reason you want, and just listed a couple of examples. Those are not the ONLY situations they will allow. Other examples could be a vacation with the guys.

As long as you maintain the same residential address and don't actually live separately for any extended period of time, then you will be fine. A month here or there where you are apart for whatever reason will have zero impact on the conditional PR status.

 

[Avadava]

You are overreacting. It states: "from time to time, one or the other partner may leave the home for work or business travel, family obligations, and so on.". They are saying you can leave for short/temporary purposes, for whatever legitimate reason you want, and just listed a couple of examples. Those are not the ONLY situations they will allow. Other examples could be a vacation with the guys.

As long as you maintain the same residential address and don't actually live separately for any extended period of time, then you will be fine. A month here or there where you are apart for whatever reason will have zero impact on the conditional PR status.

This.

 

[CdnandTrini]

You are overreacting. It states: "from time to time, one or the other partner may leave the home for work or business travel, family obligations, and so on.". They are saying you can leave for short/temporary purposes, for whatever legitimate reason you want, and just listed a couple of examples. Those are not the ONLY situations they will allow. Other examples could be a vacation with the guys.

As long as you maintain the same residential address and don't actually live separately for any extended period of time, then you will be fine. A month here or there where you are apart for whatever reason will have zero impact on the conditional PR status.

Rob_TO is correct. In addition, CIC does not actually have the resources to "monitor" all of these conditional PRs so my guess is they would likely only be able to respond or investigate if they were receiving multiple complaints about an individual or a group of individuals that may indicate some kind of organized fraudulent activities. If you read anything about marriage fraud, CIC does not have any capacity to track it statistically so they don't even have reliable trends/numbers. Even those who do find out their spouse has de-frauded them and call CIC - CIC does not have the capabilities to find them.

Lastly if the foreign spouse is found, they have all manner of appeals to use to avoid being deported. One couple, he left her 3 weeks after arriving in 2009, she tracked him down and reported him and got the media involved and as of 2012 he was still here using legal channels to avoid deportation. So have fun on your trip with the boys, just make sure you have your health coverage and PR card before leaving the country. Oh and one other thing......better make sure you and your wife have a fab honeymoon/vacation before your "guy trip" or CIC will be the least of your worries..... .

 

[mr.peace]

You are overreacting.

haha...

 

[riley99]

Thanks so much for the responses. I guess the phrase 'and so on' leaves people open to interpretation in a big way.
If you're going on "vacation" every other week, that's probably also not ok.
haha. true

 

[automaton82]

Rob_TO is correct. In addition, CIC does not actually have the resources to "monitor" all of these conditional PRs so my guess is they would likely only be able to respond or investigate if they were receiving multiple complaints about an individual or a group of individuals that may indicate some kind of organized fraudulent activities.

While I agree in theory, keep in mind that you do present your passport/PR card when you re-enter Canada (either scanned in automated machine, or to an actual person), so they do keep a database of when you enter the country. It would be pretty easy to see if someone is re-entering often.