CLB 7 AND NEW FSWP RULES

[HSSAN.KHALILI]

Dear friends
based on new rules for FSWP in 2013 , for main applicant CLB 7 required . my IELTS scores are :
listening : 5.5
reading : 5.5
writing : 6.5
speaking : 6
and in my TRF , overall score mentioned 6 ! are they acceptable for work group B (TECHNICAL) in FSWP ? Please help and explain it to me i really need to know .

 

[PMM]

Hi

Dear friends
based on new rules for FSWP in 2013 , for main applicant CLB 7 required . my IELTS scores are :
listening : 5.5
reading : 5.5
writing : 6.5
speaking : 6
and in my TRF , overall score mentioned 6 ! are they acceptable for work group B (TECHNICAL) in FSWP ? Please help and explain it to me i really need to know .

Nope, you will require 6 or above in each section.

 

[HSSAN.KHALILI]

DEAR PMM
with these scores , i mean having 2 ( 5.5 ) , i heard i will get 15 points . is it true ?? or you mean i even can't apply for new FSWP ? thanks

 

[paniz]

DEAR PMM
with these scores , i mean having 2 ( 5.5 ) , i heard i will get 15 points . is it true ?? or you mean i even can't apply for new FSWP ? thanks

As PMM said, you will require 6 in each band. This is a minimum requirement for English proficiency to apply as a Federal Skilled Worker.

 

[Cappuccino]

Yes there are now 2 factors to consider

1) Do you score at least 6 (IELTS) in each of the four categories?

If YES

2) How many points will you score on the points matrix?

If NO - you are not eligible to apply, doesn't matter how many points you have.

 

[HSSAN.KHALILI]

DEAR jnathan


we will see about that . u c ?

 

[jnathan]

Canada is surely gonna miss many of the top talents who does not have IELTS score of all 6.0
CIC should rename this program as Federal Skilled worker in English/French !!! FSWE/FSWF

 

[ayaz123]

lol @Janathan but they need more of a cream to come to there country and work....lol

 

[jnathan]

Skilled in Language does not necessarily mean skilled in respective jobs.
This is clearly a filtering process going and and many of the talents will end up in survival jobs

 

[Cappuccino]

Canada is surely gonna miss many of the top talents who does not have IELTS score of all 6.0
CIC should rename this program as Federal Skilled worker in English/French !!! FSWE/FSWF

Anyone unable to score 6.0 in each of the required sections will find it harder to obtain employment, and also harder to integrate into Canadian society.
From what I've read language is the single biggest barrier preventing immigrants finding employment once they get here.

Canada doesn't want immigrants who disappear into their own little communities of poorly-spoken English/French once they get to Canada.

Anyone wishing to emmigrate here should make the effort to learn the language. Personally I'd take it a step further and insist all applicants, not just the principal applicant, had at least an intermediate level of one of Canada's two official languages.

Wayne.

 

[Cappuccino]

Skilled in Language does not necessarily mean skilled in respective jobs.
This is clearly a filtering process going and and many of the talents will end up in survival jobs

In order to be successful in Canada skill in language alone or skill in work experience alone are not sufficient.

Canada wants people who are both skilled in a profession AND can write and speak one of Canada's two official languages adequately.

I fail to see why that is such a big ask.

Wayne.

 

[jnathan]

Did you forget that applicants had to score 6.0 in IELTS which had 4 sections like CLB has?
Did you also forget that IELTS is an English test accepted worldwide as a benchmark of test takers' ability to speak read write listen ?
Immigrants came to Canada before 2008 might be weaker in English, but by no mean they are weaker who came after 2008 ( IELTS must) !!!

Dont you think Canadian employers are putting the immigrants into backseat from getting blended with their society and workforce by ignoring the immigrants who have already once shown through IELTS that they were Internationally tested and passed well?

Doesnt asking for CLB now means Canadians have no faith in IELTS/Canadian governments language factor which immigrants had to overcome when they applied?

Having read all in above, dont you think its a deliberate act by Canadian employers to block the immigrants from getting jobs?

 

[Cappuccino]

Did you forget that applicants had to score 6.0 in IELTS which had 4 sections like CLB has?
Did you also forget that IELTS is an English test accepted worldwide as a benchmark of test takers' ability to speak read write listen ?
Immigrants came to Canada before 2008 might be weaker in English, but by no mean they are weaker who came after 2008 ( IELTS must) !!!

Dont you think Canadian employers are putting the immigrants into backseat from getting blended with their society and workforce by ignoring the immigrants who have already once shown through IELTS that they were Internationally tested and passed well?

Doesnt asking for CLB now means Canadians have no faith in IELTS/Canadian governments language factor which immigrants had to overcome when they applied?

Having read all in above, dont you think its a deliberate act by Canadian employers to block the immigrants from getting jobs?

I am unsure what exactly you are trying to say. I know IELTS is split into 4 sections and that a score of 6.0 (CLB 7.0 equivalent) is required in each section.
I know IELTS is an English test accepted worldwide. I fail to see where I am disputing any of this.

But you seem to think it's some big conspiracy theory to stop immigrants coming into the country. Utter nonsense. Whatever caps CIC sets WILL almost certainly be filled no matter where they set the language bar. Canadian employers do not write CIC policy. So I fail to see how CIC insisting on a minimum language score is somehow a result of Canadian employers trying to stop immigrants from coming into the country?

The reason CIC are doing this is so purely so we don't get immigrants with a poor grasp of English or French and will struggle to get a job as a result. Someone with the strongest profession skills in the world will likely struggle to find work if they do not speak English or French at a reasonable level. CIC have reflected this in their policy.

And CIC are not "asking for CLB". They use CLB as a benchmark and other testing such as IELTS has its equivalencies.

A score of only 6.0 in each of the four IELTS categories is by no means a strong score. Adequate, I would say, at best, and a perfectly reasonable minimum to insist on.

People who want to move to another country should do that country the courtesy of learning their language to an adequate level. I only wish CIC would take it a step further and insist all the people in the application, not just the principal applicant, would also have to have English or French ability at the same level.

Wayne.

 

[HSSAN.KHALILI]

Dears
it seems all of u think that cic have planned such a situation ( IELTS with clb 7 at minimum ) just to decrease the number of people who enter into the canada country !! but what about ustralia ?? it is such a long time that they catch people with high proficiency in ENGLISH knowledge?? and they continue to share more and more people every year with their country ! so ! at the other hand in my opinion every thing is not completely clear and finalized yet ! maybe CIC will announce later that for different job levels , different minimum will take place ! who knows ? maybe for me , as a electrical engineer , IELTS will be min 5.5 , and no need to have the exam again ! :-\

 

[Cappuccino]

Dears
it seems all of u think that cic have planned such a situation ( IELTS with clb 7 at minimum ) just to decrease the number of people who enter into the canada country !! but what about ustralia ?? it is such a long time that they catch people with high proficiency in ENGLISH knowledge?? and they continue to share more and more people every year with their country ! so ! at the other hand in my opinion every thing is not completely clear and finalized yet ! maybe CIC will announce later that for different job levels , different minimum will take place ! who knows ? maybe for me , as a electrical engineer , IELTS will be min 5.5 , and no need to have the exam again ! :-\

Please take me out of the "all of u" bubble?

If CIC wanted to decrease the number of people entering Canada as immigrants, they would decrease their visa targets.

CIC are merely ensuring that those entering Canada as skilled workers have sufficient language ability to have a reasonable chance of getting a job.
There is no conspiracy theory. People want to make to another country, they're expected to learn the language. Simple.


Anyway, regrettably under the current proposals (which seem all but finalised) you will not be eligible to apply under the May 2013 FSWP with listening and reading scores of 5.5. However, there are still almost 4 months until the doors open, which grants you the time to schedule and take another IELTS test.

I'd strongly urge you to work on your language skills and get another set of results which will hopefully be good enough so that you're eligible to apply.

Best of luck,
Wayne.