clarification regarding the 2 year probationary for Spousal Visas

[drlexigray]

Hi, I'd like to clarify something about Canada's new ruling:

"The condition requires the sponsored spouse or partner to cohabit in a conjugal relationship with their sponsor for a period of two years after the day on which they became a permanent resident"

Does this mean that since I am the one being sponsored, I cannot leave Canada for the next 2 years?
What if we want to go on Vacation? Or I would need to travel outside canada within that period (work related or vacation wise), will I be allowed? Will my husband need to travel with me?

I'm worried about the possible consequences of travelling outside Canada during this 2 year period... and the rules aren't that clean cut.

Hoping you guys could help me out. Thanks.

 

[fandv]

Hi, I'd like to clarify something about Canada's new ruling:

"The condition requires the sponsored spouse or partner to cohabit in a conjugal relationship with their sponsor for a period of two years after the day on which they became a permanent resident"

Does this mean that since I am the one being sponsored, I cannot leave Canada for the next 2 years?
What if we want to go on Vacation? Or I would need to travel outside canada within that period (work related or vacation wise), will I be allowed? Will my husband need to travel with me?

I'm worried about the possible consequences of travelling outside Canada during this 2 year period... and the rules aren't that clean cut.

Hoping you guys could help me out. Thanks.

I highly, highly doubt that the 2 year probationary rule has to do with travels .

Basically they just want that for the next 2 years, you guys will still be a couple....in love...married....communicating regularly just like any other couples would. I think overseas travel is really fine, especially if you do it with your spouse .

 

[IslandAnnie]

Hi, I'd like to clarify something about Canada's new ruling:

"The condition requires the sponsored spouse or partner to cohabit in a conjugal relationship with their sponsor for a period of two years after the day on which they became a permanent resident"

Does this mean that since I am the one being sponsored, I cannot leave Canada for the next 2 years?
What if we want to go on Vacation? Or I would need to travel outside canada within that period (work related or vacation wise), will I be allowed? Will my husband need to travel with me?

I'm worried about the possible consequences of travelling outside Canada during this 2 year period... and the rules aren't that clean cut.

Hoping you guys could help me out. Thanks.

No, I don't think this relates to leaving Canada to travel. I think the operative phrase in the above is "cohabit in a conjugal relationship with their sponsor for a period of two years" - cohabit means live together i.e. you must live together as a married/common law married/conjugal couple for two years. I think travel together with your spouse or short periods of independent travel are what normally happens in relationships. I think longer periods without your spouse could be subject to scrutiny. I would ensure you had very good reasons for being apart for any length of time.

 

[drlexigray]

great!!! Thanks for clearing that up!

I had this idea that "conjugal" meant physically being/living with my husband for 2 straight years! Which brought up my questions of traveling without him, like for business


Im launching my application soon. he's sponsoring me. There are a LOT of forms to fill out and so far this forum has helped a lot! Thank you so much again!


I have another clarification---when He applies to sponsor me under the spousal program, do I get my PR card straightaway? I vaguely remember reading something about a temporary resident visa for the first two years?

Im asking because I would need to be PR status in order to take the licensure exams in canada for medicine.

Hope you can help again...

 

[IslandAnnie]

For people married less than two years that fall under the new condition, when you are approved, you will get your full PR just like everyone else. The only condition will be that if for some reason your relationship with your sponsor ends before two years is up, your PR may be revoked.

For Outland applications:
When you are approved - if you are from a Visa exempt country you will receive your COPR papers, arrive at a Canadian border inspection point to land, they will process your COPR documents and you will have your PR Status and you can then go to get your SIN number, DL, medical, etc. Your PR card (which is what you will need if traveling out of the country) will be mailed to the address you give them a number of weeks later (there are threads on this forum with current times people are waiting to received their cards). The difference for Non-Visa Exempt countries is they will return your passport to you with the COPR documents and it will have a temporary Visa in it so you can board the plane and enter Canada.. then when you get off the plane they will process the same as above.

For Inland applications:
I'm not completely sure of the process - I'm sure someone here familiar with that process can tell you, but I believe it is similar and there is a number of weeks/months wait after becoming a PR that it will take to actually get your PR card.

There are ways to obtain an emergency travel document if something urgent happens and you need to leave the country while waiting for your PR card to arrive. I'm sure some more familiar with process could elaborate if you ever need to ask further about how this is done.l

Good luck with you application!
Annie

 

[amikety]

great!!! Thanks for clearing that up!

I had this idea that "conjugal" meant physically being/living with my husband for 2 straight years! Which brought up my questions of traveling without him, like for business


Im launching my application soon. he's sponsoring me. There are a LOT of forms to fill out and so far this forum has helped a lot! Thank you so much again!


I have another clarification---when He applies to sponsor me under the spousal program, do I get my PR card straightaway? I vaguely remember reading something about a temporary resident visa for the first two years?

Im asking because I would need to be PR status in order to take the licensure exams in canada for medicine.

Hope you can help again...

You won't get a PR card until your appliation is approved. Depending on your visa office (VO) that could take anywhere from a few months to a few years.

You can try to visit Canada if you wish. If you need a visa, however, there's little chance you'll get approved with a husband in Canada, even with a PR application in process. You won't be able to work or study though.

Just a word of warning, medicine is one of the hardest careers for immigrants to break into in Canada. Doctors, at least, have it really bad. They're treated the same as new gradutes and must do residencies to get their full license. The number of residencies are limited, so the doctors must compete with others to get these positions. The state of foreign doctors in Canada is really sad. Not to say there aren't immigrants working as doctors, because there are, but the system seems dysfunction to me. I'm not trying to discourage you here, just giving you a heads up. A backup plan is probably a good idea......

 

[truesmile]

Just a word of warning, medicine is one of the hardest careers for immigrants to break into in Canada. Doctors, at least, have it really bad.

Indeed! And not only difficult for "doctors" either. I know a "nurse", who had to GIVE UP on that, and is currently working as a forklift truck driver.