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tropicflite

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Apr 13, 2013
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Hi all,

I first arrived in Canada on 18OCT2011 on a work permit.

Permanent residency received on 14OCT2014.

Was out of Canada for 2 weeks per year visiting family.

Supposing the C6 3/5 rule goes into effect as of 01SEP2017 (just picking a random date, I have no info on this)

To make 3 out of 5 years including 2 week absences per year would be:

01SEP2017 minus 3 years equals 01SEP2014,

but including the absences, 01SEP2014 minus 6 weeks equals 21JUL2014

which is about 3 months before I became a permanent resident.

*But* I was here for nearly 3 years prior to that on a work permit so I can easily use the 2 for 1 rule to make up those 3 months.

So as I calculate it I will be able to apply for Citizenship the moment the C6 3/5 rule goes into effect :)

Otherwise I would have had to wait until 2018 to have the 4 years in Canada since getting permanent residency.

Does my math make sense?

Thanks for looking.
 
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amitdi

Hero Member
Dec 19, 2013
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AFAICT, your math seems to be correct and you'll become eligible as soon as the new forms are available.

there is no way they will use the 4yr rule now. Worst case (thinking very conservatively), they may decide not to use 2 for 1 rule for past stays that is also very unlikely. in this case, you will become eligible in Nov/Dec'ish 2017.

but 99%, I think it will be as per your calculation.
 
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Bs65

VIP Member
Mar 22, 2016
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tropicflite said:
Hi all,

I first arrived in Canada on 18OCT2011 on a work permit.

Permanent residency received on 14OCT2014.

Was out of Canada for 2 weeks per year visiting family.

Supposing the C6 3/5 rule goes into effect as of 01SEP2017 (just picking a random date, I have no info on this)

To make 3 out of 5 years including 2 week absences per year would be:

01SEP2017 minus 3 years equals 01SEP2014,

but including the absences, 01SEP2014 minus 6 weeks equals 21JUL2014

which is about 3 months before I became a permanent resident.

*But* I was here for nearly 3 years prior to that on a work permit so I can easily use the 2 for 1 rule to make up those 3 months.

So as I calculate it I will be able to apply for Citizenship the moment the C6 3/5 rule goes into effect :)

Otherwise I would have had to wait until 2018 to have the 4 years in Canada since getting permanent residency.

Does my math make sense?

Thanks for looking.
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Maybe I being dense here but in your sums if you for example applied sept 1 2017 then you need to accumulate 3 years physical presence in the 5 years before Sept 1. So in your example days post PR from oct 14 /2014 through Sept 1 /2017 count as full days.

So lets say in the example that equals 2 years and 46 weeks approx .But during that time you spent 6 weeks out of the country so in effect post PR you accumulated only 2 years 40 weeks leaving you 12 weeks or 168 half days to find from pre PR (Oct 2014) physical presence.

Maybe I misunderstood but you lost me by substracting 6 weeks from sept 2014 to get july 2014 which doesnt make sense at least to me given you became PR in OCT 2014 and can only claim full days post PR.

Being on a work permit since 2011 is fine but the way the rules are being unofficially interpreted you can claim only days 5 years before the application date so back to Sept 2012 which easily gives you the opportunity to claim the 168 half days back from Oct 2014 to Sept 2012 to get to the total 3 years physical presence out of the 5..

Nobody knows when 3/5 will be implemented other than a vague statement fall 2017 but still seems you should easily have enough days in the bank.

Then again maybe my math/logic is rubbish and best wait until the 3/5 calculator is in place
 
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tropicflite

Star Member
Apr 13, 2013
106
7
Bs65 said:
Maybe I being dense here but in your sums if you for example applied sept 1 2017 then you need to accumulate 3 years physical presence in the 5 years before Sept 1. So in your example days post PR from oct 14 /2014 through Sept 1 /2017 count as full days.

So lets say in the example that equals 2 years and 46 weeks approx .But during that time you spent 6 weeks out of the country so in effect post PR you accumulated only 2 years 40 weeks leaving you 12 weeks or 168 half days to find from pre PR (Oct 2014) physical presence.

Maybe I misunderstood but you lost me by substracting 6 weeks from sept 2014 to get july 2014 which doesnt make sense at least to me given you became PR in OCT 2014 and can only claim full days post PR.

Being on a work permit since 2011 is fine but the way the rules are being unofficially interpreted you can claim only days 5 years before the application date so back to Sept 2012 which easily gives you the opportunity to claim the 168 half days back from Oct 2014 to Sept 2012 to get to the total 3 years physical presence out of the 5..

Nobody knows when 3/5 will be implemented other than a vague statement fall 2017 but still seems you should easily have enough days in the bank.

Then again maybe my math/logic is rubbish and best wait until the 3/5 calculator is in place
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Thanks! I was just using the July 2014 date as a reference date to see that I still needed to show 12 weeks to be made up from my pre PR time in Canada, which I believe is the same as what you came up with. So I will take this as a confirmation of my calculation, though of course I'll wait for the online tool to be updated.
 
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