Changes probably will be announced in less than a week

[Elrud]

That is totally wrong. I think that they should make a system which should be fair to all of the streams. FSWP,CEC,FST and all intl students and siblings. And that system should remain in place for atleast 20-25 yrs. Because if every coming govt will change the system as they like it will not help canada. They are elected to serve for the better interest of canada not like acheiving their personal goals. For example if conservatives win 2019 they will change the system for their good.

I think the Conservatives agree with the Liberals with respect to internationals students and also French, as I heard in parliament session and in fact they want the Liberals to do more to promote that. For siblings, that I did not hear any opposition either, but the Conservatives was rather silent.

 

[betty44]

All the reforms will be based on the mandate letter that prime minister Justin Trudeau given to John Mccallum which is made public. The entire immigration team will work upon that only, however they may have even started working a year before. Now the international students are about 350,000 or more in Canada. Can they all be involved in CEC.?They will put some filters sure. Also siblings case is a third point in mandate letter.There are chances that they can increase points for siblings but they can even postpone that process to some other point in future. New system will be totally different with current point system,wait and see.

he has said the majority of graduates will become residents next year not all of them. I dont think they are going to postone any of their reforms after being working on EE for one year, i dont think the liberals will revise EE again and make changes.Probably the new government in a couple of years. I think liberals have taken this long cuz there wont be another revision, what they decide to do now , that is the system we will have for next 2 years till there is another canada election.

 

[Elrud]

Can you please explain.?Most of them are graduates from canadian post-secondary institutions,right.?
There might be people who left the country after their studies.So they can also apply if potential points are awarded to them.

Yes, that's true...there are others who left; so it will be more than 150,000 but not in the 300s thousand as you said. But not all are PHDs and professional degrees/Master.

 

[Elrud]

Yes, that's true...there are others who left; so it will be more than 150,000 but not in the 300s thousand as you said. But not all are PHDs and professional degrees/Master.

Also, the rule was changed in 2014, those ex-graduates should have got their education from Canadian designated learning institutions list.

 

[fatani]

Think there are around 150,000 of those with Canadian education; amongst which not all will get the same bonus points.

10-15 bonus points are okay. But if the minimum bonus points will be like 100-150 for bachelors in canada then all 150,000 will become PR on the cost of all of them with foreign education and work exp. Thats why I said either seperate category for intl students or limited bonus points. Like if you have bachelors as a single applicant you get 120 points. Lets add 10 bonus if its in canada making it 130. That way should be fair.

Maximum 25 bonus points an applicant can get.

10 for canadian bachelors
15 for canadian masters (if bachelors is in foreign country)
20 for canadian PHD (if bachelors and masters are in foreign country)
20 for if both bachelors and masters had been done in canada.
25 for if all 3 bachelors masters and PHD had been done in canada.

25 points if you have a canadian sibling.

 

[betty44]

International graduates would get additional points not students

 

[sojugeorge_1]

That is totally wrong. I think that they should make a system which should be fair to all of the streams. FSWP,CEC,FST and all intl students and siblings. And that system should remain in place for atleast 20-25 yrs. Because if every coming govt will change the system as they like it will not help canada. They are elected to serve for the better interest of canada not like acheiving their personal goals. For example if conservatives win 2019 they will change the system for their good.

Liberal party need votes from citizens in next election.
Implementation of carbon tax(which is a disgusting decision),economic statements,Syrian refugees all were based on mandate letters.
Change is inevitable."The real change".

 

[Elrud]

10-15 bonus points are okay. But if the minimum bonus points will be like 100-150 for bachelors in canada then all 150,000 will become PR on the cost of all of them with foreign education and work exp. Thats why I said either seperate category for intl students or limited bonus points. Like if you have bachelors as a single applicant you get 120 points. Lets add 10 bonus if its in canada making it 130. That way should be fair.

Maximum 25 bonus points an applicant can get.

10 for canadian bachelors
15 for canadian masters (if bachelors is in foreign country)
20 for canadian PHD (if bachelors and masters are in foreign country)
20 for if both bachelors and masters had been done in canada.
25 for if all 3 bachelors masters and PHD had been done in canada.


25 points if you have a canadian sibling.

That's so little; the issue will not be resolved and again those with Canadian education will never get picked up. McCallum said points will increase significantly but we don't know what he meant by significantly.

 

[sojugeorge_1]

Liberals plan which was delivered to public.


liberal.ca/files/2015/09/A-new-plan-for-Canadian-immigration-and-economic-opportunity.pdf

 

[fatani]

That's so little; the issue will not be resolved and again those with Canadian education will never get picked up. McCallum said points will increase significantly but we don't know what he meant by significantly.

Well its seems little but these points can also change the luck lots of intl students who are in the range of 425-430 will go upto 450 which will give then more chance and lots who are waiting on 450-455 will go upto 475-480 which will most definately get them ITA. And you should also select the best intl students you just cant give every body 100 points so that all of 150-200K students can get ITAs. It should be kept fair. If a intl student have 350-380 range score its his/her responsibility also to get his/her points up. If they are in 350-380 range this means they are lacking in valuable human core points most probably they dont have good language scores so if they cant have good scores even after spending Years in Canada how can they deserve a chance. As per my understanding even with this system in which you get bonus points for canadian exp a intl student if he/she is good and deserving are getting and can get the ITA. Because with young age masters degree and CLB 9-10 language ability and atleast 1 yr of canadian exp intl student can get upto 450-480 points even more that will give him an ITA.

 

[Elrud]

Well its seems little but these points can also change the luck lots of intl students who are in the range of 425-430 will go upto 450 which will give then more chance and lots who are waiting on 450-455 will go upto 475-480 which will most definately get them ITA. And you should also select the best intl students you just cant give every body 100 points so that all of 150-200K students can get ITAs. It should be kept fair. If a intl student have 350-380 range score its his/her responsibility also to get his/her points up. If they are in 350-380 range this means they are lacking in valuable human core points most probably they dont have good language scores so if they cant have good scores even after spending Years in Canada how can they deserve a chance. As per my understanding even with this system in which you get bonus points for canadian exp a intl student if he/she is good and deserving are getting and can get the ITA. Because with young age masters degree and CLB 9-10 language ability and atleast 1 yr of canadian exp intl student can get upto 450-480 points even more that will give him an ITA.

Then why the statistics revealed that majority of fresh graduates are in the range 360, there are even engineers in this range; why did McCallum said he wants to make it easier for fresh graduates to stay after graduation? CEC in the range 450 will definitely get ITA but McCallum wants to do more than that by allowing as many as possible international students... and that's why they decided to give more points...

 

[Elrud]

Then why the statistics revealed that majority of fresh graduates are in the range 360, there are even engineers in this range; why did McCallum said he wants to make it easier for fresh graduates to stay after graduation? CEC in the range 450 will definitely get ITA but McCallum wants to do more than that by allowing as many as possible international students... and that's why they decided to give more points...

I thinks for siblings, some criteria need to be met, such as landing in the same region where your sibling reside..., let's wait and see!

 

[sojugeorge_1]

They will put some filters on every reforms, because there are millions of people who need to move to canada and number is increasing .....

 

[Elrud]

They will put some filters on every reforms, because there are millions of people who need to move to canada and number is increasing .....

May be the Express Entry should have intake period and not allowing people entering the pool anytime; else the number would become too big...

 

[betty44]

Well its seems little but these points can also change the luck lots of intl students who are in the range of 425-430 will go upto 450 which will give then more chance and lots who are waiting on 450-455 will go upto 475-480 which will most definately get them ITA. And you should also select the best intl students you just cant give every body 100 points so that all of 150-200K students can get ITAs. It should be kept fair. If a intl student have 350-380 range score its his/her responsibility also to get his/her points up. If they are in 350-380 range this means they are lacking in valuable human core points most probably they dont have good language scores so if they cant have good scores even after spending Years in Canada how can they deserve a chance. As per my understanding even with this system in which you get bonus points for canadian exp a intl student if he/she is good and deserving are getting and can get the ITA. Because with young age masters degree and CLB 9-10 language ability and atleast 1 yr of canadian exp intl student can get upto 450-480 points even more that will give him an ITA.

let s get real guys 450 points means nothing today you will not get an invitation with that score a nomination maybe. And the thing with international graduates is that they feel they shouldnt have to compete with the rest of us cuz they have a canadian education so they want the highest score or another stream. The government has heard them, they been signing petitions for over 2 years now, and of course they want people to pay for canadian education