Canadian Husband/American Wife who's pregnant... help?

[iarblue]

Your baby will be covered as soon as you get the certificate of citizenship.So if you applied for that the minute you get to Ontario the baby is covered,your husband can also add you to his work health,but i think it takes time for that to take effect too.

 

[heatherusa]

You're talking about proof of citizenship, not the citizenship itself. Whether you have the citizenship certificate or not is a completely separate issue from whether you are actually a citizen.

Yes, but the expense to get that proof is where the difference exists and so does the process. If she has the baby in the US, all she needs to do for Canadian citizenship is prove the dad is Canadian and apply for the certificate. If she has the baby in Canada and wants US citizenship for the baby then they have to apply for Citizenship and the cost is significantly more.

 

[YorkFactory]

Yes, but the expense to get that proof is where the difference exists and so does the process. If she has the baby in the US, all she needs to do for Canadian citizenship is prove the dad is Canadian and apply for the certificate. If she has the baby in Canada and wants US citizenship for the baby then they have to apply for Citizenship and the cost is significantly more.

A U.S. passport is sufficient proof of U.S. citizenship for practically any purpose. (You can also get a consular report of birth abroad; the fee for that is $40. You really don't need it if you have a U.S. passport, though.)

 

[cassiebroadway]

Okay, so my MIL spoke with a few people today and feels pretty confident in this plan. Please let me know if there is anything missing/anything you would change! Here's the timeline.

July 24 - She visits and brings most of our stuff up to Canada in her truck.

September 9 - My husband and I (and dog) drive up to Canada. MIL meets us at the border to drive us to Bridgenorth. We'll have a whole bunch of stuff from a baby shower and whatever else she couldn't fit. We're going to tell immigration that we're visiting. Will this fly? Should we just tell the truth?

Mid-September - Get my application stuff going to inland permanent residency.

November 19 - Due date. Think I'll be covered under OHIP by then? Or for any check ups before then?

 

[can_usa_97]

I don't personally think you will. (sept to oct, oct to nov is only 2 months)

On the OHIP site themselves it says;

OHIP coverage normally becomes effective three months after the date you establish residency in Ontario. The ministry strongly encourages new and returning residents to purchase private health insurance in case you become ill during the OHIP waiting period.

Being that a returning birth citizen who is returning has a 3 month waiting period, I really believe (with nothing truly to back it up) that you would fall under this as well. I just tried to call OHIP myself, because they haven't replied to my email but the # isn't callable from US is what it keeps saying

As for what to say at the border, no idea.

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[cassiebroadway]

I don't personally think you will. (sept to oct, oct to nov is only 2 months)

On the OHIP site themselves it says;

OHIP coverage normally becomes effective three months after the date you establish residency in Ontario. The ministry strongly encourages new and returning residents to purchase private health insurance in case you become ill during the OHIP waiting period.

Being that a returning birth citizen who is returning has a 3 month waiting period, I really believe (with nothing truly to back it up) that you would fall under this as well. I just tried to call OHIP myself, because they haven't replied to my email but the # isn't callable from US is what it keeps saying

As for what to say at the border, no idea.

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I talked to OHIP and they said that there is no waiting period for inland applicants that qualify... that's why I decided to do all of this inland! That was also what happened with this girl my MIL was talking about.

 

[michaelab]

I had a baby in the States and the father is in Ontario. The baby was not covered by OHIP at birth anywhere in here (the states).
If you have a baby in Canada the baby is covered by OHIP but not outside of Canada. You will not be covered by OHIP in Canada til 3 months after you land and apply for it.

Yes your baby will be a citizen of Canada but you still need to wait for months before you receive the certificate of citizenship if you deliver outside of Canada.

That says 'RETURNING RESIDENTS', which my baby will not be. My baby will be a citizen of Canada at birth.

 

[can_usa_97]

I talked to OHIP and they said that there is no waiting period for inland applicants that qualify... that's why I decided to do all of this inland! That was also what happened with this girl my MIL was talking about.

What # worked for you? I'd love to talk to them.

They would probably be the best people to ask regarding when it would be in effect.

 

[cassiebroadway]

What # worked for you? I'd love to talk to them.

They would probably be the best people to ask regarding when it would be in effect.

I don't know what the number was... my MIL called a local number and then three-wayed me!

 

[can_usa_97]

I was able to talk to them today - I am not sure why the # didn't work when I called the other day.

They told me in my case, my kids will have to wait 3 months - even if they were in waiting for an application to be completed.

 

[minna]

If I were you, I would make sure that I have a guarantee from OHIP in writing about your immediate eligibility for health care. I wouldn't take anyone's word on it, not even an OHIP employee's over the phone. If you are right about not having to wait the 90 days, then they should have no problem writing you a letter or email stating that. Just an idea, because otherwise, what will you do if you arrive in Canada, and it turns out you have to wait the 90 days after all??? Are you able to pay out of pocket for prenatal care and possibly the birth? What if, god forbid, there are any complications? It is pretty expensive to get gap coverage for that 90 day wait if you are pregnant - especially if those 90 days put you close to or at full term.

 

[cassiebroadway]

Okay, new developments over here.

My MIL finally smartened up and decided to actually get some real immigration advice, and she found out that I would NOT be covered by OHIP in the first three months. I have to get travel insurance, like we were all originally thinking.

So, If I leave for Canada in August and then file for permanent residency inland, would I be eligible for OHIP after three months of being there? Because I'm really looking to get this delivery covered!!

 

[michaelab]

I thought this site might help you to see if you haven't seen it: http://www.health.gov.on.ca/english/public/pub/ohip/eligibility.html

Please correct me if I am wrong but I thought most insurance companies will not cover you if you are already pregnant. (I tried to get a coverage for myself when I was pregnant but no one took me since I was pregnant..it was in the States though..and to make the matters worse they didn't cover the baby until she had her 1st official check up..the check up at birth didnt' count as one..and I had to wait for the insurace company to approve us which took like 1 month).

Before all that I used to think they would at least cover me for the general care and just not maternity coverage but they didn't even consider me at all for any plans that they had. So that being said, I was just wondering if you can even get a travel insurance.

I am glad your MIL got the real immigration advice! Keep us posted on how things work out.

Best wishes

Okay, new developments over here.

My MIL finally smartened up and decided to actually get some real immigration advice, and she found out that I would NOT be covered by OHIP in the first three months. I have to get travel insurance, like we were all originally thinking.

So, If I leave for Canada in August and then file for permanent residency inland, would I be eligible for OHIP after three months of being there? Because I'm really looking to get this delivery covered!!

 

[can_usa_97]

I too in my research after suggesting it found that most travel insurance will not cover you for birth abroad. That your not meant to travel in the last period of pregnancy and shouldn't be away.

I'm glad that your MIL was able to find out the real scoop so you can make the right choices.
Best wishes!

 

[cassiebroadway]

Yea, I'm just going to have to go in September and hope I can get some reasonable private insurance once I get there! Otherwise I'll have to set myself up on a payment plan and enjoy paying off my delivery for a long time, ha.

I think I should go ahead and tell immigration the truth as I cross the border. My MIL is willing to support me if my husband can't get a job right away... that would satisfy immigration, yea?