Can we add foreign work experience under work history? Plzz Help!!

[inder2513]

Can we add foreign work experience under work history, while creating express entry profile? I have reference letter from the employer.

Also , under Work history, do we have to include part time jobs apart from my full time job which have a valid NOC code. Parti time jobs like cashier and all.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Can we add foreign work experience under work history, while creating express entry profile? I have reference letter from the employer.

Yes

Also , under Work history, do we have to include part time jobs apart from my full time job which have a valid NOC code. Parti time jobs like cashier and all.

Not mandatory under Work history if it doesn't fetch you additional points but this will be required in Personal history - no gaps entertained there.

 

[YamPower]

You can add foreign work experience to your work history.

The only NOC types that matter are 0, A and B. I don't think cashier fits into those. It doesn't make sense to add jobs that don't give you points unless you're using it to fill a gap in your personal history.

 

[inder2513]

Thank you so much guys. You guys are awesome!!!!

 

[vivmehta]

I need your Advise senior...

my father owns business in india and for that i can create my job letter but i dont have filed it return so can i count those experience or not?

 

[kaulvirus]

Hi Guys, got a related question here. Isn't it being disingenuous on the applicant's part if he/she skips writing about their experience in the work history form but mentions that in the personal history section instead? I mean I understand that if you don't get points for something, you might as well not mention it and avoid paperwork but just wondering if it comes off as a contradiction when the CIC officer looks at your application?

The reason why I am asking is because I have about 10 years of exp but I cannot produce any reference letters (other than the usual experience letters) of my initial employment as they've shut shops. But, that's only 3-4 years of my work experience. I do have reference letters from my current employers ( that amounts to more than 3+ years of experience required by ITA). So, if I avoid writing about my initial work experiences so that the system doesn't ask for any paperwork but instead write that down in the personal history section, would that not come off as a contradiction?

Similarly, if my wife has prior work experience (overseas) and I don't write that in her work history section ( she can't produce reference letters at all) but mention everything in the personal history section, would that be ok too?

Thanks for the read.

 

[Asivad Anac]

I need your Advise senior...

my father owns business in india and for that i can create my job letter but i dont have filed it return so can i count those experience or not?

Yes. Get the reference letter signed by someone other than your father, preferably the HR or someone else in a senior position in the organization.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Guys, got a related question here. Isn't it being disingenuous on the applicant's part if he/she skips writing about their experience in the work history form but mentions that in the personal history section instead? I mean I understand that if you don't get points for something, you might as well not mention it and avoid paperwork but just wondering if it comes off as a contradiction when the CIC officer looks at your application?

The reason why I am asking is because I have about 10 years of exp but I cannot produce any reference letters (other than the usual experience letters) of my initial employment as they've shut shops. But, that's only 3-4 years of my work experience. I do have reference letters from my current employers ( that amounts to more than 3+ years of experience required by ITA). So, if I avoid writing about my initial work experiences so that the system doesn't ask for any paperwork but instead write that down in the personal history section, would that not come off as a contradiction?

Similarly, if my wife has prior work experience (overseas) and I don't write that in her work history section ( she can't produce reference letters at all) but mention everything in the personal history section, would that be ok too?

Thanks for the read.

Your concerns are well founded and I struggled with this myself before acknowledging the fact that CIC does not insist on full disclosure of education and work history for PA and spouse/common-law partner. Nowhere does it state in the Ministerial Instructions for EE that an applicant has to necessarily state their entire educational background or work history.

It is a simple extension of logic from there to decide what one enters in the application. If you claim points for something, you will have to validate it. If you don't claim points, you don't have to validate anything. A spouse's education, work experience or language scores are enabling criteria but not eligibility criteria. It is perfectly acceptable to leave it out of your profile if you don't need those points. CIC cannot force you to spend monies on something which is NOT a qualifying criterion.

Personal history is a different area altogether. It is arguable that you can omit some details from your personal history as well if all of that time period was spent in one country because the personal history section prompts you only for PCC(s) and travel history records, at times. It is perfectly reasonable for an applicant to mention only their Education in personal history even though they might have been involved in an off-campus job simultaneously. In such a scenario, there is no harm in mentioning 'Education' alone for that time period.

The point I'm trying to make is that it is important to provide full disclosure (or as close to a full disclosure as possible) in personal history section but that isn't applicable to work history and education history for PA and spouse/common-law partner.

 

[kaulvirus]

Your concerns are well founded and I struggled with this myself before acknowledging the fact that CIC does not insist on full disclosure of education and work history for PA and spouse/common-law partner. Nowhere does it state in the Ministerial Instructions for EE that an applicant has to necessarily state their entire educational background or work history.

It is a simple extension of logic from there to decide what one enters in the application. If you claim points for something, you will have to validate it. If you don't claim points, you don't have to validate anything. A spouse's education, work experience or language scores are enabling criteria but not eligibility criteria. It is perfectly acceptable to leave it out of your profile if you don't need those points. CIC cannot force you to spend monies on something which is NOT a qualifying criterion.

Personal history is a different area altogether. It is arguable that you can omit some details from your personal history as well if all of that time period was spent in one country because the personal history section prompts you only for PCC(s) and travel history records, at times. It is perfectly reasonable for an applicant to mention only their Education in personal history even though they might have been involved in an off-campus job simultaneously. In such a scenario, there is no harm in mentioning 'Education' alone for that time period.

The point I'm trying to make is that it is important to provide full disclosure (or as close to a full disclosure as possible) in personal history section but that isn't applicable to work history and education history for PA and spouse/common-law partner.

Great argument, thanks so much.