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Calling each other 2-3 times a week

Capin

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ser5600 said:
There is a right and wrong answer to how many calls a husband and wife should make ???? I don't want to know about other red flags, I'm just asking about the number of calls, that's it.

Can I ask how many calls you guys make to your spouses in a week? More than 2-3 times?
I call my husband at least two hours everyday at night after babies fall asleep. Also many uncountable short calls during the day. Everyday of course.
 

ser5600

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canadianwoman said:
Definitely include both. Phoning each other 2 or 3 times a week is a normal amount. You have to show proof of communication; with only texts, the visa officer might be suspicious. Texts and phone calls seems more normal.
Thanks, I sent the voluntary proof and I included the call log.

There is another problem. The text messages I included went all the way back to the day we submitted our app, but for the call log I only included the past 3 months because that's all I had; we used another app before that which both of us later deleted without thinking of saving the logs first. I didn't explain any of this to the visa officer because I only realized this after sending the thing. What now? What if they start to wonder why I only included the past 3 months? If they schedule an interview because of this, they'll make us wait for another year and we can't bear that. :'(
 

ImABule

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ser5600 said:
Thanks, I sent the voluntary proof and I included the call log.

There is another problem. The text messages I included went all the way back to the day we submitted our app, but for the call log I only included the past 3 months because that's all I had; we used another app before that which both of us later deleted without thinking of saving the logs first. I didn't explain any of this to the visa officer because I only realized this after sending the thing. What now? What if they start to wonder why I only included the past 3 months? If they schedule an interview because of this, they'll make us wait for another year and we can't bear that. :'(
How much time between app filed and the start of your call logs?

What's your VO?

How strong was your proofs included in the app when filed?
 

ImABule

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ser5600 said:
6 months. My VO is New Delhi.
You could send a case specific enquiry explaining it but I'm not sure if that's the best idea.

If you feel comfortable with the amount of proof you supplied with the application then I would just leave it.
 

ser5600

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ImABule said:
You could send a case specific enquiry explaining it but I'm not sure if that's the best idea.

If you feel comfortable with the amount of proof you supplied with the application then I would just leave it.
I feel comfortable with the initial proof, it's just that I don't want the visa officer to make assumptions as to why I included 9 months of text messages, but only the past 2 months worth of call logs.

(I said 3 months of call logs in my previous post but I checked again and it's closer to 2 months)
 

ImABule

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ser5600 said:
I feel comfortable with the initial proof, it's just that I don't want the visa officer to make assumptions as to why I included 9 months of text messages, but only the past 2 months worth of call logs.

(I said 3 months of call logs in my previous post but I checked again and it's closer to 2 months)
Did you include any of these proofs in the initial app?
 

ser5600

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ImABule said:
Did you include any of these proofs in the initial app?
No calls or texts because we applied right after we got married. It was an arranged marriage and it's normal for there not to be any prior contact before the marriage. The initial app only had proof showing how our parents and grandparents arranged the marriage, lots of wedding photos, and honeymoon photos.

My concern isn't really about how much proof I'm sending, because I can always dig up more proof like birthday cards and Western Union receipts that I forgot to send. The concern I have is whether the visa officer will make assumptions as to why my voluntary submission included 9 months worth of texts and only 2 months worth of calls.
 

ImABule

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ser5600 said:
No calls or texts because we applied right after we got married. It was an arranged marriage and it's normal for there not to be any prior contact before the marriage. The initial app only had proof showing how our parents and grandparents arranged the marriage, lots of wedding photos, and honeymoon photos.

My concern isn't really about how much proof I'm sending, because I can always dig up more proof like birthday cards and Western Union receipts that I forgot to send. The concern I have is whether the visa officer will make assumptions as to why my voluntary submission included 9 months worth of texts and only 2 months worth of calls.
Western union receipts are very good proofs.

I included 16 pages of them in my application, and recently sent several more to cover the time from the time we last sent them until now.
 

ser5600

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ImABule said:
Western union receipts are very good proofs.

I included 16 pages of them in my application, and recently sent several more to cover the time from the time we last sent them until now.
I'll send those tonight. I send my wife money every 2 weeks so I have plenty of receipts.

I hope they don't put my wife down for an interview just because of that 6 month gap in the call logs, despite the fact that I included text message logs to cover that gap. :(
 

ImABule

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ser5600 said:
I'll send those tonight. I send my wife money every 2 weeks so I have plenty of receipts.

I hope they don't put my wife down for an interview just because of that 6 month gap in the call logs, despite the fact that I included text message logs to cover that gap. :(
For an arranged marriage it is normal not to have proofs before the marriage, but you should provide everything you can from after the marriage.

IMO the WU reciepts are better proofs than call logs.
 

ser5600

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ImABule said:
For an arranged marriage it is normal not to have proofs before the marriage, but you should provide everything you can from after the marriage.

IMO the WU reciepts are better proofs than call logs.
I know, but the gap in call logs was after the marriage.

Thank you for the reassurance though, I will definitely send those Western Union receipts tonight. This makes me glad that my wife spends so much on clothes and jewelry. :p
 

ImABule

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ser5600 said:
I know, but the gap in call logs was after the marriage.

Thank you for the reassurance though, I will definitely send those Western Union receipts tonight. This makes me glad that my wife spends so much on clothes and jewelry. :p
If you re download the app will the call logs still be there?

If not just explain it when you send more proof.
 

ser5600

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ImABule said:
If you re download the app will the call logs still be there?

If not just explain it when you send more proof.
I tried that and it didn't work.

We've sent each other birthday cards as well. Should I just send in those with the WU receipts instead of trying to explain the call log issue?
 

ImABule

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SA April 5, 2016
Med's Done....
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ser5600 said:
I tried that and it didn't work.

We've sent each other birthday cards as well. Should I just send in those with the WU receipts instead of trying to explain the call log issue?
If you send more proofs, send everything you can.

My application was 11lbs and I've sent more proofs twice.