Baby born outside Canada

[mdotk]

One of my friends is already a PR, but for some reason his wife delivered their baby back home and not in Canada.

Now they want to go back to Canada, what should they do ?

Will the family sponsorship be their only option ?

Plz advise

 

[Ponga]

The nerve of her! What's wrong with her?!?!

Seriously? "But for some reason his wife delivered their baby back home..."
Uh...I'm sure she had a very good reason.

You need to tell us if she is a Canadian PR or not, before we can properly answer your question. I gather that she is not, which would mean that he would need to sponsor them both. He would need to be in (and remain in) Canada to sponsor them.

 

[mdotk]

The nerve of her! What's wrong with her?!?!

Seriously? "But for some reason his wife delivered their baby back home..."
Uh...I'm sure she had a very good reason.

You need to tell us if she is a Canadian PR or not, before we can properly answer your question. I gather that she is not, which would mean that he would need to sponsor them both. He would need to be in (and remain in) Canada to sponsor them.

Thanks Ponja,

Me too, when I heard that I was little disappointed.

Both father and mother are PR.

Baby is NOT a PR, he was born outside Canada.

you mean the father should be in Canada and sponsor the baby ? my understanding is that this would take years ?!!

How will this family be able to get united in Canada ?

 

[Rob_TO]

Thanks Ponja,

Me too, when I heard that I was little disappointed.

Both father and mother are PR.

Baby is NOT a PR, he was born outside Canada.

you mean the father should be in Canada and sponsor the baby ? my understanding is that this would take years ?!!

How will this family be able to get united in Canada ?

If the baby can come here as a visitor (visa-exempt passport, TRV or TRP), then they can all return to Canada and sponsor the baby from here.

If baby is unable to come to Canada as visitor, then 1 parent will need to return here to sponsor while other remains outside Canada to sponsor the baby. So they will be separated during this time as the sponsoring parent needs to remain a resident of Canada during entire application process. If they didn't want to go through this, they should have had the baby in Canada.

 

[mdotk]

If the baby can come here as a visitor (visa-exempt passport, TRV or TRP), then they can all return to Canada and sponsor the baby from here.

If baby is unable to come to Canada as visitor, then 1 parent will need to return here to sponsor while other remains outside Canada to sponsor the baby. So they will be separated during this time as the sponsoring parent needs to remain a resident of Canada during entire application process. If they didn't want to go through this, they should have had the baby in Canada.

Thanks Rob_TO,

They are not from a visa-exempt country.

Can the baby apply for a visitor visa ? does the condition of staying only 6 months apply to the baby ?

How long does the processing of a sponsorship application takes ?

 

[Hardcookie]

Hello everyone,

while we are at this, what is supposed to happen when the husband is a citizen sponsoring a wife and during this process a baby is born outside?

Your contributions shall be highly appreciated.

 

[Decoy24601]

Hello everyone,

while we are at this, what is supposed to happen when the husband is a citizen sponsoring a wife and during this process a baby is born outside?

Your contributions shall be highly appreciated.

If the father is a Canadian citizen then I believe the child will be born a Canadian citizen. I have a friend who is an American-Canadian dual citizen that way. His father is Canadian and his mother is American (and a Canadian PR for 40 years).

 

[Hardcookie]

If the father is a Canadian citizen then I believe the child will be born a Canadian citizen. I have a friend who is an American-Canadian dual citizen that way. His father is Canadian and his mother is American (and a Canadian PR for 40 years).

Thanks Decoy.
So will it mean that the birth just needs to be registered with the Canadian government?

 

[Decoy24601]

Thanks Decoy.
So will it mean that the birth just needs to be registered with the Canadian government?

Yes, I believe you'll have to file for some sort of proof that the child is a Canadian citizen from them. I can't remember the specifics unfortunately.

 

[cheng9999]

If the father is a Canadian citizen then I believe the child will be born a Canadian citizen. I have a friend who is an American-Canadian dual citizen that way. His father is Canadian and his mother is American (and a Canadian PR for 40 years).

CIC now calls it "apply for proof of citizenship" process. Basically you apply on behalf of your child who is a minor the Canadian citizenship certificate. Search online and go through the links on CIC. You download the forms and checklists and instructions. The form applies to all cases, so it has a section for those "who are born outside Canada".

You would go to the Canadian consulate, tell them what you need to do. Fill in the form before you go, the photos, etc.

Obviously the Canadian parent would need to bring his documentation (passport, citizenship card or birth cert if he is Canadian by birth), child's birth cert showing name of both parents (in some countries, they also go with household registers instead of birth certs, so this may also be needed, and translated and notarized if not in English), the documents (usually just passport) of the other non-Canadian spouse.

 

[Hardcookie]

CIC now calls it "apply for proof of citizenship" process. Basically you apply on behalf of your child who is a minor the Canadian citizenship certificate. Search online and go through the links on CIC. You download the forms and checklists and instructions. The form applies to all cases, so it has a section for those "who are born outside Canada".

You would go to the Canadian consulate, tell them what you need to do. Fill in the form before you go, the photos, etc.

Obviously the Canadian parent would need to bring his documentation (passport, citizenship card or birth cert if he is Canadian by birth), child's birth cert showing name of both parents (in some countries, they also go with household registers instead of birth certs, so this may also be needed, and translated and notarized if not in English), the documents (usually just passport) of the other non-Canadian spouse.

Awesome!
Thanks Cheng, thanks Decoy..... at least i now have an idea of what to do.

 

[mia_79]

One of my friends is already a PR, but for some reason his wife delivered their baby back home and not in Canada.

Now they want to go back to Canada, what should they do ?

Will the family sponsorship be their only option ?

Plz advise

Hello,
This is not a problem at all.
My daughter was born outside of Canada as well.
You need to download and and fill out the "Application for a citizenship certificate (adults and minors)" form.
Translate the birth certificate, make photo's of the baby and drop it off at the embassy. Follow the steps on the cic website.
Make sure you apply for urgent processing, costs a few $'s more, but you'll get the paper in 3 weeks rather than 8 months.
Once you have this paper, apply for a canadian passport for the baby, once again, urgent processing which will be faster.
The whole process will not take anymore than 2 months if you hurry.

Important fact: make sure you apply for a passport in the country of residence as well. Otherwise they might not let the baby leave with only a canadian passport. Happened a few times in Poland.

On a side note, tell your friend to mention this to the VO that issued the PR, but the status shouldn't change.

Only thing I would worry about is travelling with such a small bundle of joy, might be hard on them and the baby.

Hope this helps

Cheers

 

[Hardcookie]

Hello,
This is not a problem at all.
My daughter was born outside of Canada as well.
You need to download and and fill out the "Application for a citizenship certificate (adults and minors)" form.
Translate the birth certificate, make photo's of the baby and drop it off at the embassy. Follow the steps on the cic website.
Make sure you apply for urgent processing, costs a few $'s more, but you'll get the paper in 3 weeks rather than 8 months.
Once you have this paper, apply for a canadian passport for the baby, once again, urgent processing which will be faster.
The whole process will not take anymore than 2 months if you hurry.

Important fact: make sure you apply for a passport in the country of residence as well. Otherwise they might not let the baby leave with only a canadian passport. Happened a few times in Poland.

On a side note, tell your friend to mention this to the VO that issued the PR, but the status shouldn't change.

Only thing I would worry about is travelling with such a small bundle of joy, might be hard on them and the baby.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Great info Mia! Thank you!

 

[cheng9999]

Thanks Rob_TO,

They are not from a visa-exempt country.

Can the baby apply for a visitor visa ? does the condition of staying only 6 months apply to the baby ?

How long does the processing of a sponsorship application takes ?

Apply for travel visa. No experience here though if the baby will get rejected. On one hand, visitor visas are supposed to be for visitors when it's obvious the baby is not going to return when the visa expires. Others have said such a case requires temporary residence visa instead of visitor visa as that makes more sense.

Anyway, application should be outland, and get that done as soon as possible, so that it gets approves as soon as possible while your friend tries to figure it out. Whether it's visitor visa or TRV, it does not change the fact that the child needs to be sponsored for PR. It is the only real solution to this problem. Outland, because it's typically faster. But one parent would have to be residing in Canada to get this process started.

Should the baby be granted visitor visa, just apply for extension before 6 months is up.

 

[Decoy24601]

Apply for travel visa. No experience here though if the baby will get rejected. On one hand, visitor visas are supposed to be for visitors when it's obvious the baby is not going to return when the visa expires. Others have said such a case requires temporary residence visa instead of visitor visa as that makes more sense.

Anyway, application should be outland, and get that done as soon as possible, so that it gets approves as soon as possible while your friend tries to figure it out. Whether it's visitor visa or TRV, it does not change the fact that the child needs to be sponsored for PR. It is the only real solution to this problem. Outland, because it's typically faster. But one parent would have to be residing in Canada to get this process started.

Should the baby be granted visitor visa, just apply for extension before 6 months is up.

A Temporary Residence Visa (TRV) is a visitor's visa. I think what you are thinking of is a Temporary Residence Permit (TRP). Normally, these are for people who are otherwise inadmissible to Canada (a baby would not fall under this category under normal circumstances). http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/permits.asp http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/permits/ http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/visa.asp