Attn Seniors ??? totally unfair to ask such kind of explanation from Singapore

[zulkfal]

another thing just came into my mind, on my IELTS application form I was asked if I want a copy of my results can be forwarded to one institution for free of cost and I wrote my file number and Buffalo office results and I think they received the results before, they sent my results back as by that time I hadn't submitted my full documents. So, choose both options 1) self pick 2) write the Singapore office address with your file number as reference, and mean time send them an email with scan copy of your IELTS registration for an extension. Good luck

 

[rocky272727]

hi
Pls advise me about the unexpected....................
what can i explain about this unexpected matter pls advise and it should be submitted before August 03 2010 though i am waiting for medical
here is the copy of the sg hi commission letter

"Government of Canada
High Commission of Canada
Gowernement du Canada
Haut-commissariat du Canada
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Date: June 3,2010
TSG
TO:
KAZI RAQUIBUL iSLAM

Mr. Islam,
This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada.
Although you have obtained 69 selection points, I am not satisfied that these points accurately reflect
your ability to economically establish in Canada. Therefore, I am considering refusing your case
using negative substituted evaluation for the following reasons:

a) With basic writing skills and moderate listening, reading, speaking skills (per IELTS)
I believe you will have difficulty finding employment in Canada as a vocational instructor
(the field of your declared work experience) or in a related field;

b) Mohammad Jahagir, your uncle in Canada, has clearly not economically established there
as he has been unemployed since returning to Canada in July 2009 and he is (per 2009
T5007) collecting social assistance in Canada. Therefore, I am not satisfied that your uncle
will be able to significantly assist you in becoming economically established yourself.
This is a procedural fairness letter giving you an opportunity to respond to this information within
60 days from the date of this letter before a final decision is made on this case.
Kind regards
Second Secretary
Immigration Section

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IMMIGRATION SECTION
P O BOX 84s
ROBINSON ROAD
SINGAPORE 901645
FAX: (6s) 68s4-s874
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Very sorry to hear about such a type of refusal. It is indeed very disappointing.

See the immigration officer as full right to refuse a case if he/she takes it to substitute evaluation.

Now What I will suggest you is,

1- Book IELTS and as soon as you get a date which is suitable, study for it immediately.
2- See the Adaptability factor means that who so ever, is your relative living in Canada, will help you understanding situations and facts about Canada and that is why they award you "5" points for this factor. Now since as mentioned by the IO has not established a economical living here in Canada, can reject the case for the factor

As per the score you stated.

Speaking>6 ---- 2 points - Moderate Proficiency
listening>6.5 ---- 2 Points - Moderate Proficiency
Reading>5.5 ----- 2 Points - Moderate Proficiency
Writing>5 -------- 1 Point - Basic Proficiency
Total = 7 Points

a) For Language you get 7 points
b) For adaptability you get 5 points

Total a + b = 12 points.

You scored 69 points and if we take it out, i.e. 69-12 = 57 points. Now you need minimum 10 points in Language Ability to make it to 67 points.

Trust me, CIC will not award you the points for you uncle as he is taking government AID for living as mentioned by the IO. So my suggestion is study very hard for IELTS, attempt more and more practice test and then give it a try.

Sorry for such basic explanation but I wanted to be as basic and simple as I can.

NOTE: Singapore Visa office has become very very strict while processing file's as per the statistics, people who case has been approved from Singapore Visa office, have taken longer time to settle down here in Canada. (www.cic.gc.ca, statistics section). This is just my interpretation and opinion to the user for his/her question. Please do not make any assumption based on it.

Best of luck and do not get disheartened but as you are determined, give it a shot again with best effort.

 

[ankit_20]

Just my 2 cents, Write to CHC explaining

1.) You have sufficient funds and you do not need your Uncle's assistance for economically sustaining your self
2.) You realize that your IELTS score is less and you want to take IELTS again and submit the score in XX days

Also how many adaptability points you have because of relationship in canada. Try to replace them with your IELTS points

 

[jnathan]

I see oppression and suppression by the IO.
Why someone be affected for his uncle's wrongdoings. Why cant Canadian government stop aiding people socially or publish this new unspoken rule in gazette that they wont award points for any relative who is on social aid? Its like hanging someone else to death at your place.
This is punishable offense I think- arlnr should file a lawsuit in Canadian Court where he might get justice, IO has no ground to think that arlnr will also be on social aid once he goes there. neither he can take away the point for having a relative in Canada who is on Social Aid. It is a shame for canadian employers that they are not being able to recognize a Phd from Michigan University hence making the uncle taking social aid from Canada.

However, I'd die rather than taking aid from Canadian Government as I'd always had this in mind that I'dnt be able to sponsor anyone for doing that. That too would be taken in to count had he sponsored arlnr, its independent Skilled Category !

bad bad luck for arlnr.
this Time is not the best for everyone.

 

[mediajunkie]

Having a relative in Canada is just 5 points. All he has to do is score better on his IELTS and he can get up to 9 more points. Many people who come over do not have relatives already living here and they still manage to make the 67 points.

In order to qualify for social aid, you need to have worked up to 700 hours in a 1 year period. Which means his uncle has had a job before. So it's not as though his uncle was an unemployed immigrant. The government is not just going to give out financial aid to every new immigrant, otherwise everyone would just want to move to Canada for free money.

I don't think he's ever mentioned that his uncle has a Ph.D. just that he completed his studies. Also, there is no school named Michigan University.

 

[arlnr]

pls give me some time then i will post my uncles actual scenario from education status to living in CA
PHD may be it was typing mistake because i am in so stress but It must be MS
And certainly it would be from Michigan, university or school ................later i will post.

Would i mail it to Jason kenny or Harper with detailed Opinion from me

 

[arlnr]

This is from CIC.GC.CA
Sponsoring your family

Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) knows it is important to help families who come from other countries to reunite in Canada. If you are a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident of Canada, you can sponsor your spouse, common-law partner, conjugal partner, dependent child (including adopted child) or other eligible relative (such as a parent or grandparent) to become a permanent resident.

CIC refers to the immigrants who are eligible to use this family sponsoring process as the Family Class.

If you become a permanent resident, you can live, study and work in Canada. For more information about being a permanent resident in Canada, see the Related Links section at the bottom of this page.

When you arrive in Canada as a permanent resident, you must make every reasonable effort to provide for your own essential needs and those of your family.

If you sponsor a relative to come to Canada as a permanent resident, you are responsible for supporting your relative financially when he or she arrives. As a sponsor, you must make sure your spouse or relative does not need to seek financial assistance from the government.

The process to sponsor your family begins when you, as a citizen or permanent resident in Canada, apply to be a sponsor.

There are two different processes for sponsoring your family. One process is used for sponsoring your spouse, conjugal or common-law partner and/or dependent children. Another process is used to sponsor other eligible relatives.

Learn about:
Family Class: Spouses, partners and dependent children (includes common-law and conjugal partners)
Family Class: Other eligible relatives
Related Links
About being a permanent resident of Canada

Sponsoring your family:
Eligible relatives—Who can apply

Certain relatives may be eligible to immigrate to Canada as permanent residents.

There must be a sponsor for any relative immigrating to Canada within the Family Class. Both the person sponsoring a relative and the person wishing to immigrate to Canada must meet certain requirements.

Applicants for permanent residence must go through medical, criminal and background checks. An applicant with a criminal record may not be allowed to enter Canada. People who pose a risk to Canada’s security are also not allowed to enter Canada. An applicant may have to provide a certificate from police authorities in the home country. Medical, criminal and background checks are explained in the application kit. For more information, go to the I Need To… section on the right-hand side of this page.
Sponsoring an eligible relative
Who can be sponsored
Who cannot be sponsored
Sponsoring an eligible relative

You can sponsor certain relatives if you are a citizen or permanent resident of Canada and if you are 18 years of age or older.

You may not be eligible to sponsor a relative if you:
failed to provide the financial support you agreed to when you signed a sponsorship agreement to sponsor another relative in the past
defaulted on a court-ordered support order, such as alimony or child support
received government financial assistance for reasons other than a disability
were convicted of a violent criminal offence, any offence against a relative or any sexual offence—depending on circumstances, such as the nature of the offence, how long ago it occurred and whether a pardon was issued
defaulted on an immigration loan—late or missed payments
are in prison or
have declared bankruptcy and have not been released from it yet.

Other factors not mentioned in this list might also make you ineligible to sponsor a relative.

When you sponsor a relative to become a permanent resident of Canada, you must promise to support that person and their dependants financially. Therefore, you have to meet certain income requirements. If you have previously sponsored relatives who later turned to the Canadian government for financial assistance, you may not be allowed to sponsor another person. Sponsorship is a big commitment, so you must take this obligation seriously.

To be a sponsor:
You and the sponsored relative must sign a sponsorship agreement that commits you to provide financial support for your relative if necessary. This agreement also states that the person becoming a permanent resident will make every effort to support themselves. Dependent children under age 22 do not have to sign this agreement. Quebec residents must sign an “undertaking” with the province of Quebec—a contract binding the sponsorship.
You must promise to provide financial support for the relative and any other eligible relatives accompanying them for a period of three to ten years, depending on their age and relationship to you. This time period begins on the date they become a permanent resident.

If you live in Quebec, you must also meet Quebec’s immigration sponsorship requirements after Citizenship and Immigration Canada approves you as a sponsor. For more information, see the Related Links section at the bottom of this page.

If you are a Canadian citizen who lives abroad and plans to return to Canada when your relatives immigrate, you may sponsor your spouse, common-law or conjugal partner, or your dependent children who have no dependent children. For more information, see Spouses, partners and dependent children in the Related Links section at the bottom of this page.

To sponsor any other eligible relatives (for example, parents and grandparents), you must be living in Canada.
Who can be sponsored

You can sponsor:
parents
grandparents
brothers or sisters, nephews or nieces, granddaughters or grandsons who are orphaned, under 18 years of age and not married or in a common-law relationship
another relative of any age or relationship but only under specific conditions (see Note below)
accompanying relatives of the above (for example, spouse, partner and dependent children).

Note: you can sponsor one relative regardless of age or relationship only if you do not have a living spouse or common-law partner, conjugal partner, a son or daughter, parent, grandparent, sibling, uncle, aunt, nephew or niece who could be sponsored as a member of the family class, and you do not have any relative who is a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident or registered as an Indian under the Indian Act.
Who cannot be sponsored

Other relatives, such as brothers and sisters over 18, or adult independent children cannot be sponsored. However, if they apply to immigrate under the Skilled Worker Class, they may get extra points for adaptability for having a relative in Canada.

 

[arlnr]

I booked my IELTS on 31/07/2010
Also trying to be on 17/07/2010 too

 

[Hiprashant]

Hi alrner...
pls avoid unnecessary stress....

Just write a request letter stating that u will be well supported to be established economically with the sufficient funds which is in your account now and you will prove a satisfactory language status with a valid test report soon for which you have booked the date. So add one more request to provide an opportunity to submit the result as soon as u will get( include a copy of the receipt of IELTS test that u have booked)

(One of my friend frm Nepal had got a chance to submit IELTS result even after the deadline date as he had no time to sent the result before the deadline date and had only sent a copy of test booked receipt informing that he will sent as soon as the result will be available, who has got his visa now.)

So be action oriented rather than being tensed....and hopefull too....

 

[arlnr]

Yesterday i did consult with a lawyer in Toronto regarding my case.
Recently he mailed me and ask the followings
pls tell me what would be the best possible reply

has your relative been able to find employment yet in Canada? If so, we need to advise CIC of this.

Would you be living with your uncle if your application were approved. If so, we could also advise CIC of this to help your case.

In addition to this, if you have additional net worth that has not been disclosed, please let me know of this now.

You could rewrite the IELTS, but it is doubtful that you are going to be able to markedly improve your score.

Note:this is my uncle's recent procedure of his job hunting

Regarding my employment search I want to let you know that last week on June 23, 2010 I went for an interview with the Ministry of Health and Long Term Care for the Senior Business Analyst Position. The team leader called me on last Fiday that she did not yet took any decision because she did not get any chance to talk with the Deputy Minister. I am expecting that she will let me know something positive this week.

 

[jnathan]

Reply as per the inquiry made by the lawyer.

CHC Singapore should immediately be informed with adequate proof that your uncle has worked in Canada before and due to the layoff he suffered , he is now unemployed.

let CHC know that you never ever even dream of living with your uncle and you hate him for taking social aid and there is no reason for which you can support him taking the social aid. also write to them that you'd rather die than ever thinking about social aid, your uncle has always been your encouragement for his education and ambition , not for something like getting burdened to someone else.

As the lawyer said, I dont believe taking IELTS again could make big differrence, but who knows you might still do better, may be 0.5 better in every sections. that could well make the difference to pave you the way for convincing the IO.

 

[singh123]

Take the lawyers as your authorised representative to do the correspondence with the visa officer.

Booking IELTS may buy you time.... but considering the stress and your state of mind you may still not be able to perform your best. Remember if once you claim that you intend to improve score in IELTS and God forbid you are not able to spectacularly improve on the previous score you are taking a risk and will be a sitting duck for the visa officer.

God bless you mate.

 

[arlnr]

At last my relative has got an offer from ministry of health as a Senior Business Analyst . It will be effective from July 26 2010.
Still i am not confident.
Now a days they are not ( IO ) ........................................................

 

[rupeshhari]

Thats good. you could get 5 points for relative now right?

 

[arlnr]

yes but what about IELTS?
Do i require another IELTS or.........................................