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Le Bret

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I wish to help a gay friend from Egypt come to Canada. As he is closeted, he hasn’t suffered consequences because of his sexuality… yet. He witnessed police officers beat up two young gay men in the subway and he’s terrified at the prospect of going on living in Egypt.

I think the only way he can set foot on Canadian soil is with a student visa and he would claim asylum at his arrival. His English language score is sufficient and I can vouch for his financial capacities.

Any advice ?
 
I wish to help a gay friend from Egypt come to Canada. As he is closeted, he hasn’t suffered consequences because of his sexuality… yet. He witnessed police officers beat up two young gay men in the subway and he’s terrified at the prospect of going on living in Egypt.

I think the only way he can set foot on Canadian soil is with a student visa and he would claim asylum at his arrival. His English language score is sufficient and I can vouch for his financial capacities.

Any advice ?

He will need to prove his claims. If he hasn't suffered any consequences himself, then at a minimum, he would have to show some sort of proof that he participates in a gay lifestyle.

To be approved for a student visa, he will need to show that he has at least $25,000 in funds to pay for his first year tuition and living expenses. He will also have to ensure the studies he plans to take in Canada make sense in light of his previous education and any work experience. Lastly, he will need to demonstrate strong ties to his home country to show he has no plans on remaining in Canada long term.
 
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I wish to help a gay friend from Egypt come to Canada. As he is closeted, he hasn’t suffered consequences because of his sexuality… yet. He witnessed police officers beat up two young gay men in the subway and he’s terrified at the prospect of going on living in Egypt.

I think the only way he can set foot on Canadian soil is with a student visa and he would claim asylum at his arrival. His English language score is sufficient and I can vouch for his financial capacities.

Any advice ?

He has no grounds for asylum since he has not been personally persecuted. His asylum claim will most likely be rejected.

Getting any type of temporary visa means he himself will need to prove he has his OWN funds to be able to fend for himself in Canada. His parents money will be fine as support but if he is just your “friend” that will likely not count as you cannot be held legally liable if you change your mind. You cannot vouch for his financial capacities. The onus is on him to prove that.

He should look at express entry to immigrate or PNP. Claiming asylum is not easy and will restrict other possibilities for him.
 
He has no grounds for asylum since he has not been personally persecuted. His asylum claim will most likely be rejected.

Getting any type of temporary visa means he himself will need to prove he has his OWN funds to be able to fend for himself in Canada. His parents money will be fine as support but if he is just your “friend” that will likely not count as you cannot be held legally liable if you change your mind. You cannot vouch for his financial capacities. The onus is on him to prove that.

He should look at express entry to immigrate or PNP. Claiming asylum is not easy and will restrict other possibilities for him.

Thank you for your feedback. He is still 18 and I don't think he can qualify for Express entry and probably not for PNP.
 
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He will need to prove his claims. If he hasn't suffered any consequences himself, then at a minimum, he would have to show some sort of proof that he participates in a gay lifestyle.

To be approved for a student visa, he will need to show that he has at least $25,000 in funds to pay for his first year tuition and living expenses. He will also have to ensure the studies he plans to take in Canada make sense in light of his previous education and any work experience. Lastly, he will need to demonstrate strong ties to his home country to show he has no plans on remaining in Canada long term.

Thank you for your feedback !
 
He has no grounds for asylum since he has not been personally persecuted. His asylum claim will most likely be rejected.

Getting any type of temporary visa means he himself will need to prove he has his OWN funds to be able to fend for himself in Canada. His parents money will be fine as support but if he is just your “friend” that will likely not count as you cannot be held legally liable if you change your mind. You cannot vouch for his financial capacities. The onus is on him to prove that.

He should look at express entry to immigrate or PNP. Claiming asylum is not easy and will restrict other possibilities for him.


False ... According to the convention, there is no need that he has suffered persecution in the past to be qualified.

A simple '' prospective fear '' (and supported by the documentary evidence, as to what might reasonably befall him, such as newspaper articles about what other people in his same group, here lgbt in this case, are experiencing in his country) is enough.

Quotation for irb ( cisr in french ) website ressources :

5.1. Generally
The definition of Convention refugee is forward-looking. In a claim for refugee status, the issue is not whether the claimant had good reason to fear persecution in the past, but whether, at the time the claim is being assessed, the claimant has good grounds for fearing persecution in the future.Note1

Source : https://irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/legal-policy/legal-concepts/Pages/RefDef05.aspx
 
False ... According to the convention, there is no need that he has suffered persecution in the past to be qualified.

A simple '' prospective fear '' (and supported by the documentary evidence, as to what might reasonably befall him, such as newspaper articles about what other people in his same group, here lgbt in this case, are experiencing in his country) is enough.

Quotation for irb ( cisr in french ) website ressources :

5.1. Generally
The definition of Convention refugee is forward-looking. In a claim for refugee status, the issue is not whether the claimant had good reason to fear persecution in the past, but whether, at the time the claim is being assessed, the claimant has good grounds for fearing persecution in the future.Note1

Source : https://irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/legal-policy/legal-concepts/Pages/RefDef05.aspx

You may think it is false but multiple claims have already been rejected for the exact same thing. This policy you quoted is a guideline and not the absolute law. Proving fear is hard enough. This person needs indisputable proof of fear. Too many people these days use being gay as a reason for asylum, most are proven to be straight. I am not saying this person is lying. I am saying the actual claim will be harder. Most of all, this person at 18 with no reason to go back to Egypt will not even have a fighting chance to claim in Canada since a TRV will most likely be rejected.