are the VO controlled by someone?

[ninakap30]

Hello all,I would like to ask this:the visa officers decide about the life of the people sending their applications..
They are humans,some may be "easier"people some more "difficult",so they can cause a kind of problem to the applicants even if their wedding genuine,even if they do really intent to turn back...i would like to ask something about this:do they get controlled by someone for their decisions?f.e they refuse an application and someone makes appeal,if the appeal is positive later can the applicant cause a problem to the Visa officers?is there any service controlling them and protecting the applicants?

 

[rhcohen2014]

yes, there are rules that protect the applicant. first of all, i believe the applications are reviewed by more than one visa officer. this is apparent in what people have reported from the GMSC notes as well as conversations from the CIC call center. It's not the case of 1 person deciding the fate of an applicant, nor do i think they take their job too lightly. i highly doubt a visa officer is going to put their job and livelihood in jeopardy by rejecting an application "just because". There are checks and balances to this system, and an application isn't just rejected without the applicant having the chance to answer the concerns. if there is concern by CIC, they will request additional information upon request or schedule an interview BEFORE the application is rejected.

if an application is clear, the relationship is ongoing, the relationship history "makes sense" in the specific culture and is known to family and friends, then there is a low chance of a rejection based on relationship validity. it's important to remember there are other factors for rejection: cirminal issues, proof of misrepresentation, etc.

 

[ninakap30]

doubtful, though i'm sure there are levels of management and supervisors. first of all, i believe the applications are reviewed by more than one visa officer. this is apparent in what people have reported from the GMSC notes as well as conversations from the CIC call center. It's not the case of 1 person deciding the fate of an applicant, nor do i think they take their job too lightly. i highly doubt a visa officer is going to put their job and livelihood in jeopardy by rejecting an application "just because". There are checks and balances to this system, and an application isn't just rejected without the applicant having the chance to answer the concerns. the applicant has the chance to supply additional information upon request and or will be asked to have an interview BEFORE the application is rejected.

if an application is clear, the relationship is ongoing, the relationship history "makes sense" in the specific culture and is known to family and friends, then there is a low chance of a rejection based on relationship validity. it's important to remember there are other factors for rejection: cirminal issues, proof of misrepresentation, etc.

yes the positive is that they do not reject immediately,they ask for additional proof...but..f.e in an interview i think therevis only one visa officer...that makes me worried...

 

[rhcohen2014]

yes the positive is that they do not reject immediately,they ask for additional proof...but..f.e in an interview i think therevis only one visa officer...that makes me worried...

have you been called in for an interview?

i would bet if statistics were looked at, there are more positive results from interviews than their are rejections. you probably are only seeing the bad cases, because they are the ones seeking help.

 

[ninakap30]

have you been called in for an interview?

i would bet if statistics were looked at, there are more positive results from interviews than their are rejections. you probably are only seeing the bad cases, because they are the ones seeking help.

nooi,yet i didnt even get informed about my SA...we have a long way,but i am worried because we have red flags,i have already mentioned them in our application.but i am still worried,red flags are too scrutinized..for me i dont know what to think,hope if my husband gets called for interview he goes well

 

[rhcohen2014]

as stated many many times before nina, just because you *think* there are red flags, it doesn't mean CIC considers them "red flags". you don't know what goes into processing the applications, and what rules they are following to make their determination. there is absolutely no point in YOU deciding your application will be rejected. you don't know that to be true AT ALL. nor do you know for sure CIC will have ANY concerns about your relationship. Quite frankly WE scrutinize every detail of our application way more than CIC ever would! No application is perfect, and CIC certainly isn't expecting them to be!

IF an interview is requested, you will be able to discuss the concerns they have.

 

[ninakap30]

as stated many many times before nina, just because you *think* there are red flags, it doesn't mean CIC considers them "red flags". you don't know what goes into processing the applications, and what rules they are following to make their determination. there is absolutely no point in YOU deciding your application will be rejected. you don't know that to be true AT ALL. nor do you know for sure CIC will have ANY concerns about your relationship. Quite frankly WE scrutinize every detail of our application way more than CIC ever would! No application is perfect, and CIC certainly isn't expecting them to be!

IF an interview is requested, you will be able to discuss the concerns they have.

but i think no wedding photos,and a secret wedding from my mother(that now is dead,and is my only family)will make them doubt...although i am 2years married and living with my husband in his country,yes like nightmare we really want to go canada,hope so,thats why scrutinize all like this,thanks for ur answrs