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Tandis1332

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Jul 12, 2020
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are you exempted and updated as completed? The RCMP cert is reviewed? Mine still shows being uploaded, has not changed to being reviewed status for 3 months. I expect that I will need to wait more than two weeks to hear from them for sure.
yeah, but no RCMP....
 
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UK2CA

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Sep 2, 2020
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Dear all, I have received my notes and the case processing agent has put me on review required for R75 and R76. However, agent has not mentioned anything in particular nor has the agent expressed any particular concerns. Is there anything I can do? or should I just wait it out? Thanks for your help!

@legalfalcon I'd really appreciate it if you could assist. Thanks in advance!
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear all, I have received my notes and the case processing agent has put me on review required for R75 and R76. However, agent has not mentioned anything in particular nor has the agent expressed any particular concerns. Is there anything I can do? or should I just wait it out? Thanks for your help!

@legalfalcon I'd really appreciate it if you could assist. Thanks in advance!
There is no need to be concerned about.

R75 refers to the FSW critera <https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-75.html>

Whereas R76 refers to the minimum eligibility criteria for FSW, i.e. FSW have to have at least 67 out of 100 points. see https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-76.html
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/federal-skilled-workers/six-selection-factors-federal-skilled-workers.html

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.

Hope this helps.
 
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mattchang0428

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Jul 28, 2020
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Thank you for your update

MY AOR 28th April 2020
BIL date:16th June 2020
Postcode: V6Z
but haven't received a phone call yet
My date is pretty close with you.
AOR: Apr 24
BIL: Jun 15
Postcode: V5B
I am still waiting the call, let me know when you got the call. Wish the BEST!
 

UK2CA

Member
Sep 2, 2020
16
1
There is no need to be concerned about.

R75 refers to the FSW critera <https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-75.html>

Whereas R76 refers to the minimum eligibility criteria for FSW, i.e. FSW have to have at least 67 out of 100 points. see https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-76.html
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/federal-skilled-workers/six-selection-factors-federal-skilled-workers.html

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.

Hope this helps.
Thanks your prompt reply! Yes I do have the text “ready to finalise”.

In the incoming section of the notes the agent marked RR for my employment documents. Can I assume that this is what caused the RR (and the lower verified scores for R75 and R76)? cheers!
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thanks your prompt reply! Yes I do have the text “ready to finalise”.

In the incoming section of the notes the agent marked RR for my employment documents. Can I assume that this is what caused the RR (and the lower verified scores for R75 and R76)? cheers!
If it says RR for the employment documents, then check if your employments documents meet the IRCC prerequisites:

a reference or experience letter from the employer, which
  • should be an official document printed on company letterhead (must include the applicant’s name, the company’s contact information [address, telephone number and email address], and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company),
  • should indicate all positions held while employed at the company and must include the following details: job title, duties and responsibilities, job status (if current job), dates worked for the company, number of work hours per week and annual salary plus benefits
And that the NOC job duties match.

If they do, then you need not be concerned. If not and something is missing, you can send a revised comment via webform.
 

UK2CA

Member
Sep 2, 2020
16
1
If it says RR for the employment documents, then check if your employments documents meet the IRCC prerequisites:

a reference or experience letter from the employer, which
  • should be an official document printed on company letterhead (must include the applicant’s name, the company’s contact information [address, telephone number and email address], and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company),
  • should indicate all positions held while employed at the company and must include the following details: job title, duties and responsibilities, job status (if current job), dates worked for the company, number of work hours per week and annual salary plus benefits
And that the NOC job duties match.

If they do, then you need not be concerned. If not and something is missing, you can send a revised comment via webform.
Thanks again Legalfalcon. I anticipated RR before the notes were generated and have provided more comprehensive references a month before the notes were generated on 30th Sept. So far the only update I got is a GU two weeks ago...Hopefully everything is fine.

I also note a RR under Client Information in the incoming section, are there any reasons for this? Thanks again!
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thanks again Legalfalcon. I anticipated RR before the notes were generated and have provided more comprehensive references a month before the notes were generated on 30th Sept. So far the only update I got is a GU two weeks ago...Hopefully everything is fine.

I also note a RR under Client Information in the incoming section, are there any reasons for this? Thanks again!
Since I am not privy to your documents I cannot pin point anything specific. However, a RR is just an indication to the officer to review a specific document before making a final determination. Given that you have submitted comprehensive documents, just wait for your eligibility to be conclusively passed.
 

UK2CA

Member
Sep 2, 2020
16
1
Since I am not privy to your documents I cannot pin point anything specific. However, a RR is just an indication to the officer to review a specific document before making a final determination. Given that you have submitted comprehensive documents, just wait for your eligibility to be conclusively passed.
Thanks for your help!
 
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