I was applying online for canada study permit but I did not find that they need proof for first semester or first years fees payment. Is it possible to apply for visa without paying first semester fees?
applying visa without paying fees for first semester
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yes as long as u have other proof of funds that r required.Hpanjola69 said:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/study-how-documents.asp#doc3
It does not matter on line or on paper.
"7.7. Reviewing applicants for financial sufficiency Officers need to satisfy themselves that applicants have sufficient financial resources to pay their tuition fees,
transportation costs to and from Canada, as well as living expenses for themselves and any family members who may be accompany ing them, without the need to engage in employment. Students are required to demonstrate financial sufficiency for only the first year of studies,regardless of the duration of the course or program of studies in which they are enrolled. In other words, a single student entering a four-year degree program with an annual tuition fee of $15,000 must demonstrate funds of $15,000 to satisfy the requirements, and not the full $60,000 which would be required for four years. Officers should be satisfied though that the probability of funding for future years does exist, i.e., parents are employed; scholarship is for more than one year.
In situations where student applicants generally pose a very low risk regarding funds, officers may choose to limit or waive routine requirements for documentary evidence. Low-risk applicants are
more likely to be exempt from the temporary resident visa (TRV) requirement. Based on theknown incidence of indigent and non-bona fide applicants, reliability of financial documentation, and so forth, individual visa offices are best placed to determine whether routinely requiring banking documentation and/or more extensive financial background information is necessary
to ensure program integrity, Students from developed countries who are both visa exempt and from socio-economic backgrounds similar to Canada might reasonably be required simply to state their available funds. Conversely, in some very high-risk environments, requiring and systematically verifying substantial history of funds and supplementary individual or family financial and employment documentation may be necessary to ensure that only genuine students well able to support their program of studies are accorded study permits.
Officers may take into consideration such sources of funds derived through scholarships, fellowships, assistantships and the like, as well as financial support or support in kind that may
be available from relatives in Canada. Foreign students in Canada are ineligible for benefits under the Canada Student Loan program. "
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op12-eng.pdf
Thank you very much for this information. Basically I am an Indian national studying in UK since October 2012 and for a two years engineering institute and doing pretty well. Also worked only four months (part time job). Now situation is that I have to pay at least £10,000 for university in UK. Now I am clearly showing in my SOP with a table that how my expanses are getting down in Memorial University. DO you think my case is strong, very strong, weak or other rating. (Need your rating as I liked your comments and information provied and may I know your name please, Guessed that Regina is name of a city)
No, Regina is a common female name in Poland and Lithuania. 
Yes you case is weak because you do not have ties in your HOME country. You do not have much at home which is so valuable that you will never have a temptation to stay in Canada after graduation by any cost (ie.illegally)
How much is tuition in Canada? How much will you save moving from UK? Anyways showing CIC that you are trying to save money could tell them that your funds are tight and it makes them think what you will do if you run of money while in Canada? When there is nothing in your home country to go back for.
Yes you case is weak because you do not have ties in your HOME country. You do not have much at home which is so valuable that you will never have a temptation to stay in Canada after graduation by any cost (ie.illegally)
How much is tuition in Canada? How much will you save moving from UK? Anyways showing CIC that you are trying to save money could tell them that your funds are tight and it makes them think what you will do if you run of money while in Canada? When there is nothing in your home country to go back for.
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Is that means Canadian visa officers works on rough estimates rather than facts.
Fact-1. I am showing proof of financial capability.
2. Studying engineering as felt that farming electronics equipments are not developed in my home country. Developed excellent GSM based irrigation system. Canada does not have need of farming equipments like my home town. Not even market like India (70% POPULATION DEPENDS UPON FARMING), no way I am going to stay in country who does cannot provide me opportunity in my field of interest. My basic idea is to set up a small scale company designing these type of equipments (lots of subsidies provided by Indian Government)
3. There are lot of engineering companies from my country in top 200 companies in the world (By forbes), not like Canada (a few banking companies). Engineering sector contributes to 12% of Indian GDP and estimated to capture US$45 BILLIONS by 2020. Well I need western education but for work opportunities, my country is developing at much higher pace. 30% lower cost in manufacturing pulling lot of companies to India. (examples of UK companies are provided on request to Canada embassy).
Rough Estimates- If I do not have a family, I will not go back to India.
Answer- LoL- Family tie ups are emotions and I am emotionally tied to hard working farmers of India. As a proof I worked on a practical task at my current college in UK. Family can be brought to Canada (there are lot's of ways.
Rough estimate- If you do not have a property in India means you will not return back to India.
Answer- LOL- A person from my village sold a property of $600,000 from India and bought in Canada.
Rough Estimate- They may assume I may run out of money.
Answer- LOl- Please find attached proofs.
So, Are you agree with me Regina
Is that means Canadian visa officers works on rough estimates rather than facts.
Fact-1. I am showing proof of financial capability.
2. Studying engineering as felt that farming electronics equipments are not developed in my home country. Developed excellent GSM based irrigation system. Canada does not have need of farming equipments like my home town. Not even market like India (70% POPULATION DEPENDS UPON FARMING), no way I am going to stay in country who does cannot provide me opportunity in my field of interest. My basic idea is to set up a small scale company designing these type of equipments (lots of subsidies provided by Indian Government)
3. There are lot of engineering companies from my country in top 200 companies in the world (By forbes), not like Canada (a few banking companies). Engineering sector contributes to 12% of Indian GDP and estimated to capture US$45 BILLIONS by 2020. Well I need western education but for work opportunities, my country is developing at much higher pace. 30% lower cost in manufacturing pulling lot of companies to India. (examples of UK companies are provided on request to Canada embassy).
Rough Estimates- If I do not have a family, I will not go back to India.
Answer- LoL- Family tie ups are emotions and I am emotionally tied to hard working farmers of India. As a proof I worked on a practical task at my current college in UK. Family can be brought to Canada (there are lot's of ways.
Rough estimate- If you do not have a property in India means you will not return back to India.
Answer- LOL- A person from my village sold a property of $600,000 from India and bought in Canada.
Rough Estimate- They may assume I may run out of money.
Answer- LOl- Please find attached proofs.
So, Are you agree with me Regina
The BIG question is - could not you finish your education in UK?
You are right family and real eastate property ARE not ties from CIC point of view. The only valuable ties are your good (and paid well) job and overall establishment in your home country.
Also, from Canadian point of view when you wish to emphasize something you, actually, do not need to compare it to something and depreciate that "something" or "somebody" ;D to look better. Just talk about one's merrits. I.e. Do not mention Canada at all, just speak about your perspectives in India and why.
Also try to emphasize, for example, that you decision to continue studing in Canada has some other reasons but not only cost of tuition. Like , you do not like program .. bla-bla bla (give some reasons why in connection with your future plans in India)
and THEN you may mention increased tuition, like a background and not the MAIN reason.
You are right family and real eastate property ARE not ties from CIC point of view. The only valuable ties are your good (and paid well) job and overall establishment in your home country.
Also, from Canadian point of view when you wish to emphasize something you, actually, do not need to compare it to something and depreciate that "something" or "somebody" ;D to look better. Just talk about one's merrits. I.e. Do not mention Canada at all, just speak about your perspectives in India and why.
Also try to emphasize, for example, that you decision to continue studing in Canada has some other reasons but not only cost of tuition. Like , you do not like program .. bla-bla bla (give some reasons why in connection with your future plans in India)
and THEN you may mention increased tuition, like a background and not the MAIN reason.
So, For ties I am strong. Regarding finishing my studies in UK, I am showing this table in SOP (I have provided proof for my financial capability)
Factor United Kingdom Memorial University of Newfoundland
Tuition Fees $20,000 Per year $8,800 Per year
Living Costs Room- $7,000 to $ 9,000 per year Room- $5466 (University Accommodation)
Food- $2,000 Food- Should be same as UK
Others- $2,000 Others- Should be same as UK
Work Experience Not available in UK
Essential part of coursework Few high level universities in UK provide work experience but cost will increase too much
So, If I am getting same quality of education with an additional feature of work experience at a much a lower costs, should I ignore it on the basis that I must be stick to you.
Factor United Kingdom Memorial University of Newfoundland
Tuition Fees $20,000 Per year $8,800 Per year
Living Costs Room- $7,000 to $ 9,000 per year Room- $5466 (University Accommodation)
Food- $2,000 Food- Should be same as UK
Others- $2,000 Others- Should be same as UK
Work Experience Not available in UK
Essential part of coursework Few high level universities in UK provide work experience but cost will increase too much
So, If I am getting same quality of education with an additional feature of work experience at a much a lower costs, should I ignore it on the basis that I must be stick to you.
What do you mean?
In Canada you have to have min of $10 000 for a year for living expenses(including rent and food) + tuition.
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what ru attaching as proof of funds.....? ur arguments cannot hold
Rough Estimates- If I do not have a family, I will not go back to India.
Answer- LoL- Family tie ups are emotions and I am emotionally tied to hard working farmers of India. As a proof I worked on a practical task at my current college in UK. Family can be brought to Canada (there are lot's of ways.
that doesnt prove anything.....an established family in home country is very good motivation to go back to home country rather than starting fresh in a new country.....it is very easy for a single person to stay in canada than bringing the whole family..again i am talking about family that is established .
Rough estimate- If you do not have a property in India means you will not return back to India.
Answer- LOL- A person from my village sold a property of $600,000 from India and bought in Canada.
if u have property in india u at some point will have to come back to deal with it .....it is also a motivation to come back in case cannot get PR and only way to stay in canada is illegally. so rather than living illegally u will choose to come back if u have property.
Rough Estimate- They may assume I may run out of money.
Answer- LOl- Please find attached proofs.
if u have hard proof of money for ur education and living expenses ur good to go..not a table in ur SOP
the way ur seeing things is argumentative and not as what VO will see in ur application.....family in india is hard proof.....property documents r hard proof that VO can see.....bank statement is proof of funds...ur love for farmers is well in ur mind. anyone can write anything in SOP doesnt mean its true...SOP helps u put ur case from ur perspective and u need hard proof to back it up. yes there r limitations in the system and people have taken advantage of it but doesnt make it a rule...u cannot say in ur application ,that guy got a visa his and my profile are same i should get visa too, even though it may be true
Rough Estimates- If I do not have a family, I will not go back to India.
Answer- LoL- Family tie ups are emotions and I am emotionally tied to hard working farmers of India. As a proof I worked on a practical task at my current college in UK. Family can be brought to Canada (there are lot's of ways.
that doesnt prove anything.....an established family in home country is very good motivation to go back to home country rather than starting fresh in a new country.....it is very easy for a single person to stay in canada than bringing the whole family..again i am talking about family that is established .
Rough estimate- If you do not have a property in India means you will not return back to India.
Answer- LOL- A person from my village sold a property of $600,000 from India and bought in Canada.
if u have property in india u at some point will have to come back to deal with it .....it is also a motivation to come back in case cannot get PR and only way to stay in canada is illegally. so rather than living illegally u will choose to come back if u have property.
Rough Estimate- They may assume I may run out of money.
Answer- LOl- Please find attached proofs.
if u have hard proof of money for ur education and living expenses ur good to go..not a table in ur SOP
the way ur seeing things is argumentative and not as what VO will see in ur application.....family in india is hard proof.....property documents r hard proof that VO can see.....bank statement is proof of funds...ur love for farmers is well in ur mind. anyone can write anything in SOP doesnt mean its true...SOP helps u put ur case from ur perspective and u need hard proof to back it up. yes there r limitations in the system and people have taken advantage of it but doesnt make it a rule...u cannot say in ur application ,that guy got a visa his and my profile are same i should get visa too, even though it may be true
Just comparing my costs, If you give an option to millionaire that choose from cheap and expansive, he will choose expansive but he/she finds them equal in quality, definitely cost saving must be chosen. ( IN my case Canada is providing me with additional feature of work experience plus I am not a millionaire.)
I am applying online, they did not even asked for ties to home country? Or I am missing some information.
I am not saying anything about staying in Canada after graduation but I am saying that I need work experience in order to improve my skills. So, co-op programme is a positive factor for me.