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Here is the question, albeit hypothetical at this point and I hope it will ever remain a hypothetical question.

Here is the story.
I am the sponsor. I was sponsored as a spouse myself some 20 years ago. A few years ago, my ex-husband and I left Canada to work in a foreign country (not my home country). While there, our marriage broke down, the ex went back to Canada, I stayed there.

Our marriage took place in my home country, not in Canada.

Since I was not residing in Canada and since I had more connections to my home country at the time and not to Canada (as measured by my frequent visits (about once in every 3 weeks), my citizenship, my birth there, our marriage, and a myriad of relatives of mine), I applied for divorce in my home country.

My ex consented. Divorce was granted.

Fast forward. A year later I am getting married again. In my home country again.
My new spouse and I cohabit in the country where I initially moved to work in with my ex spouse.
3 years later, it was time for me to return to Canada.

And we applied for sponsorship under the family class as a spouse.
The application is in process as we speak.

My second spouse came with me to Canada (on TRV), stayed here for 4 months and is now gone for 2 months but is scheduled to come again in two months.

After reading more and more about recognition of foreign divorces, I am now terrified that my spouse will not be considered a member of family class because my foreign divorce will not be recognized by IRCC and, subsequently, our marriage will not be recognized.

I even hired a lawyer to draft an opinion letter. I still have the draft. The lawyer said I should wait and see what IRCC says first (the lawyer is my regular lawyer, not an immigration lawyer).

I assume that IRCC, if in doubt, will first send me a procedural fairness letter. I will then use the draft letter from the lawyer etc...

But...Question is. What if we are faced with the worst case scenario and our application is refused?

Should we apply as common-law immediately after given that:
1. We cohabited in a third country for almost 3 years (have a rental agreement, kids school bills, country's registration as foreigners at the same address)
2. We then came together to Canada in September 2018 where my spouse stayed until end of January 2019 and left. So we cohabited for 4.5 months (but no proof, other than his entry stamp and return boarding passes. I can ask my teenage child and our neighbors (and perhaps a landlord) write a letter though)
3. Spouse left in January 2019 and will come back to Canada in May 2019 (on TRV) and will stay for 6 months. Once he comes, we can add his name to my bank account.

We will hear yay or nay in about July 2019.
I do plan to task my lawyer with trying to obtain Canadian Court Order recognizing my foreign divorce. But this will take tons of time and could be unsuccessful (who knows. I read tons of case law and it seems very subjective).

I was thinking of applying as common-law right away. But my caveat is lack of proof for Canada's cohabitation, aside from boarding passes, my child's statements, neighbours' letter, landlord's letter (actually, both of our names are on the rental agreement).

My spouse is not eligible for my insurance because he is not PR so I cannot show that (although I should actually ask my HR at work).

Technically, we did live for over 1 year but it was over 1 year ago (provable).
What do you guys think? Or should I have a full-blown court adventure here in Canada to recognize my foreign divorce?
Pros to apply as common-law (from my perspective): we will only have a gap of 4 months of being part out of 4.5 years of the marriage (even though we can only really prove the first 3 years of cohabitation, unless my landlord writes a letter; my child can though, so can our neighbour).
Cons: what if we are refused again...another year will be gone (although by the time I figure out my divorce with CAnadian ex, this same year may go by).

Thank you for reading this long post!
 
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In hindsight, too bad we did not apply as common-law to begin with. But who knew.
In 2016, I consulted a CAnadian immigration lawyer asking if my divorce will be ok. She said not to worry.
But I do worry now after I read tons of case law myself, as well as this forum.
 
And another question.

Should I send them my explanation of the foreign divorce now (the file has just been moved to the LVO) or should I wait until they ask, since I didn't submit the explanation with the application to begin with?
 
And another question.

Should I send them my explanation of the foreign divorce now (the file has just been moved to the LVO) or should I wait until they ask, since I didn't submit the explanation with the application to begin with?
On exactly what basis do you think that your foreign divorce will not be recognised? It was in your home country and you were able to remarry there. I fail to understand what you are worried about.
 
Divorce Act 21 (1).
I didn't reside in that country for at least a year prior to obtaining divorce. In fact, I didn't reside there at all.
But 21 (3) talks about common law and natural justice.
On that ground, my divorce is ok.
So it is iffy.
I hope for the best though.
At the time of divorce, I had more connection to my home country than to canada.
 
Divorce Act 21 (1).
I didn't reside in that country for at least a year prior to obtaining divorce. In fact, I didn't reside there at all.
But 21 (3) talks about common law and natural justice.
On that ground, my divorce is ok.
So it is iffy.
I hope for the best though.
At the time of divorce, I had more connection to my home country than to canada.
Are you talking about the Canadian Divorce Act? https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/d-3.4/

Appeals
Marginal note:Appeal to appellate court

  • 21 (1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3), an appeal lies to the appellate court from any judgment or order, whether final or interim, rendered or made by a court under this Act.

  • Marginal note:Restriction on divorce appeals

    (2) No appeal lies from a judgment granting a divorce on or after the day on which the divorce takes effect.

  • Marginal note:Restriction on order appeals

    (3) No appeal lies from an order made under this Act more than thirty days after the day on which the order was made.
This makes no sense.
 
My bad. It should have been 22 (1) and 22 (3). Under 21.1 "General".
Look under 21.1 and then 22 (1) and 22 (3).
Recognition of foreign divorces.
 
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Yes.
Look under 21.1 and then 22 (1) and 22 (3).
Recognition of foreign divorces.

The section of "General"
My bad. It should be 22 (1) and 22 (3).
Recognition of foreign divorce

  • 22 (1) A divorce granted, on or after the coming into force of this Act, pursuant to a law of a country or subdivision of a country other than Canada by a tribunal or other authority having jurisdiction to do so shall be recognized for all purposes of determining the marital status in Canada of any person, if either former spouse was ordinarily resident in that country or subdivision for at least one year immediately preceding the commencement of proceedings for the divorce.

  • Idem

    (2) A divorce granted, after July 1, 1968, pursuant to a law of a country or subdivision of a country other than Canada by a tribunal or other authority having jurisdiction to do so, on the basis of the domicile of the wife in that country or subdivision determined as if she were unmarried and, if she was a minor, as if she had attained the age of majority, shall be recognized for all purposes of determining the marital status in Canada of any person.

  • Other recognition rules preserved

    (3) Nothing in this section abrogates or derogates from any other rule of law respecting the recognition of divorces granted otherwise than under this Act.
I see what you are getting at. I still don't think that this is likely to be an issue for IRCC.
 
Yeah.
I hope for 22 (3).
But I read quite a few of the cases when sponsorship was rejected based on 22 (1).
Divorce is not recognized thus new marriage is not recognized thus PA is not a member of the family class.

So I am just trying to prepare in anticipation of the worst.
 
Can anyone weigh in on the common-law question?
Lived together for 2.5 years, then a break of 4 months, then living together again. Will we be able to apply if we have a 4-month break and if we won't cohabitate for 12 months immediately preceding the application?
 
Can anyone weigh in on the common-law question?
Lived together for 2.5 years, then a break of 4 months, then living together again. Will we be able to apply if we have a 4-month break and if we won't cohabitate for 12 months immediately preceding the application?
Once you become common-law (to IRCC’s definition) you don't cease to be unless you make a decision to terminate the relationship.
It's no different from being married and having to live apart for a while. You don't become un-married.
However, a valid marriage changes your status from common-law. Your concerns are based solely on the validity (in IRCC’s view) of the marriage. You are covered, one way or another...
 
Thanks.
But if IRCC decides our marriage is not valid if my divorce is not valid, they wouldn't process us as common law.
We will have to re-apply as such.
I just read on this forum that breaks of cohabitation are not advisable.
I also read here about cases when foreign divorces were not recognized by IRCC.

Just going crazy over this.
Should just relax at this stage and go with the flow.
Hard to do though...