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Appln PR - Jan 2013 Appln- refused appln

vpnss973

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Oct 11, 2013
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Hi All ,
Here is situation , could any please please help....im in great need to help ...i need of your inputs and suggestions , will be of great help...

I had Sent PR Appln on Dec 2012 , i received back PR Appln in Jan 2013 , stating please sign a Form ( this form i have not ticket in Doc checklist as i have not appointed any representative)

That time ( dec 2012) i had met IELTS requiremnet CLB level = 6 for NOC 0, A, B , scores are ( Reading : 6.0 , Listening=5.5 , Writing = 6.0 and Speaking=6.0 ) which meets the requirement as defined in CIC website in DEC 2012

Now i received back PR Appln in Jan 2013 , stating please sign a Form ( this form i have not ticket in Doc checklist as i have not appointed any representative)

But now its been assessed based on New Changes declared in Jan 2013 , I got mail mention you did not meet language proficiency as defined in Jan 2013 , thus refused

When i had applied i did meet , Appln was received on Dec 24 2012 , i do have copy of Stamp on Appln , along with Date Stamp


I had sent mail that i met requirement as per Dec 2012 , but even though it was refused ..please please help , suggestions will be great help ....

I am very disappointed now ...as i have lost 10 months for no reason ...else i would have reapplied

But strangely i see Appln Status showing as "in-process" , thus this mean its positive

I had received from CPP-0 mentioned appln received .....

I know it will be rejected...but could anyone suggest or help ....im very very disappointed .....this is injustice....

PLEASE HELP ...ANY SUGGESTIONS.....

regards
Vpnss973
 

gladaki

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Jul 15, 2012
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Category........
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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-11-2013
AOR Received.
30-12-2013
IELTS Request
submitted with application
Med's Done....
Upfront on 29th April..Updated on Ecas on 26th May
Passport Req..
11-07-2014
VISA ISSUED...
17-07-2014
LANDED..........
20-07-2014
vpnss973 said:
Hi All ,
Here is situation , could any please please help....im in great need to help ...i need of your inputs and suggestions , will be of great help...

I had Sent PR Appln on Dec 2012 , i received back PR Appln in Jan 2013 , stating please sign a Form ( this form i have not ticket in Doc checklist as i have not appointed any representative)

That time ( dec 2012) i had met IELTS requiremnet CLB level = 6 for NOC 0, A, B , scores are ( Reading : 6.0 , Listening=5.5 , Writing = 6.0 and Speaking=6.0 ) which meets the requirement as defined in CIC website in DEC 2012

Now i received back PR Appln in Jan 2013 , stating please sign a Form ( this form i have not ticket in Doc checklist as i have not appointed any representative)

But now its been assessed based on New Changes declared in Jan 2013 , I got mail mention you did not meet language proficiency as defined in Jan 2013 , thus refused

When i had applied i did meet , Appln was received on Dec 24 2012 , i do have copy of Stamp on Appln , along with Date Stamp


I had sent mail that i met requirement as per Dec 2012 , but even though it was refused ..please please help , suggestions will be great help ....

I am very disappointed now ...as i have lost 10 months for no reason ...else i would have reapplied

But strangely i see Appln Status showing as "in-process" , thus this mean its positive

I had received from CPP-0 mentioned appln received .....

I know it will be rejected...but could anyone suggest or help ....im very very disappointed .....this is injustice....

PLEASE HELP ...ANY SUGGESTIONS.....

regards
Vpnss973

Be clear please three steps process :
1.Post ur time line including when u got rejected
2.Copy n paste (deleting private info) what CIC mailed u
3.whats date show for application recieved when u login on ecas ? did they mail u back whole package ?
 

Anmed

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Feb 3, 2012
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Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-December-2012
AOR Received.
6-Feb-2013
IELTS Request
Sent with Application
Med's Request
23-Oct-2013
Med's Done....
20th March 2014
Passport Req..
4th April 2014 and received on 9 th April at CPPO
VISA ISSUED...
9th April and 15 April received passport to home
LANDED..........
16th April @ Peace Arch bridge, Whiterock, BC
Sorry to hear,
did u get AOR?
Did u get back full application pack back?
 

vpnss973

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Oct 11, 2013
28
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Hello Gladaki,


Be clear please three steps process :
1.Post ur time line including when u got rejected
Rejection Date : Oct 23,2013 ( received maik from CPP ottawa)
2.Copy n paste (deleting private info) what CIC mailed u
here it is :
Thanks for looking into application and for your response ,i would like to bring to your attention that i had met the CLB level based on scores mentioned that time (Dec 2012) in CIC website ,where it shows for NOC O,A,B CLB level= 6.0 , i have hereby attached screen show for your reference and i had taken IELTS exam (Dec 1st 2012 ) much before new changes we announced where i did meet CLB level as mentioned in CIC website and i had also confirmed the same by Calling CIC Call center as well , based on the CIC website and CIC call center, i had sent PR application ,please advise , thank you.

3.whats date show for application recieved when u login on ecas ? did they mail u back whole package ?

when you login into eCAS date shows jan 21,2013 , no i have not got back whole package yet....i just received mai back from CPP when i sent request for status on PR




Hello Anmed,

here are answers
did u get AOR? - Jan 21
Did u get back full application pack back? - No , not yet ...

regards
vpnss973
 

canadavisa13

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Jun 13, 2013
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hello,
sorry to hear about your application refusal.
if i totally understand you well,i think you said that your application was submitted back in Dec 2012 but it was sent back to you as incomplete because one of the forms was missing a signature,so you correct it and resubmitted the whole application back which was received on January 2013.
if your application was received in or after January 2 then its considered under the new rules because thats the date the complete application was received,for that reason your IELTS score its below the minimum required for your NOC level.
i wish you a good luck and i think your best option is to reapply again.
 

Anmed

Star Member
Feb 3, 2012
98
1
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-December-2012
AOR Received.
6-Feb-2013
IELTS Request
Sent with Application
Med's Request
23-Oct-2013
Med's Done....
20th March 2014
Passport Req..
4th April 2014 and received on 9 th April at CPPO
VISA ISSUED...
9th April and 15 April received passport to home
LANDED..........
16th April @ Peace Arch bridge, Whiterock, BC
Confusing,
Application received date and AOR shouldn't be same.
As Canadavisa13 mentioned, if u r ECAS shows the application received date before Jan 2, than u r IELTS good to go as per old rules.
 

canadavisa13

Champion Member
Jun 13, 2013
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i think his application was received after the new rules were implemented and his IELTS score was below the required minimum therefore his pplication was refused.
 

lpc19800

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May 21, 2013
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Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
1223
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
January 14 2013
AOR Received.
February 24 2013
Med's Request
November 13, 2013
Med's Done....
December 5, 2013
Interview........
Waived: RPRF requested: November 13, 2013
Passport Req..
Visa exempt
VISA ISSUED...
January 6, 2014
LANDED..........
January 29, 2014
You haven't read gladaki's request properly:

Please let us know ALL dates:
The date you first submitted and the date it reached CIO
The date your application was returned
The date you resubmitted - did you send back the original application or did you refill the forms?
Were there red markings on your application?

Gladaki also asked for the message FROM CIC. You posted the message you send them which doesn't help much

From reading everything through, if your ecas shows application received jan 21 then as other posters have said, you'll be assessed by the new rules - your original application was incomplete and thus not accepted or received
 

vpnss973

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Oct 11, 2013
28
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You haven't read gladaki's request properly:

Sorry for that ,

Gladaki and Ipc19800 here are responses



Date First Submitted : DEC 14 , 2012
Date Received at CIO : DEC 24 , 2012
Date returned back : Jan 09 , 2013 ( on the Form there is a seal been stamped dated Dec 24 on Application)
Date Received at CIO : Jan 14 , 2013


The date your application was returned
Jan 09 , 2013
The date you resubmitted - did you send back the original
application or did you refill the forms?
Yes , i did resubmited and send back new set of forms , there was nothing to be refill , even signature missing was not applicable to me and i had not checked this form in Doc list as it does not apply to me
Were there red markings on your application?
Yes , there were red marking on application , like been ticket all over ...and there was stamp Date Dec 24 , 2012


Gladaki also asked for the message FROM CIC. You posted the message you send them which doesn't help much

Here is message from CIC
Hello,

Your application was received on 2013/01/21 and was therefore assessed based on the new language requirements , that were implemented on January 02, 2013. As a result, you do not meet the official language proficiency requirement because you did not obtain the required score on your language test.
 

lpc19800

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May 21, 2013
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Canada
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Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
1223
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
January 14 2013
AOR Received.
February 24 2013
Med's Request
November 13, 2013
Med's Done....
December 5, 2013
Interview........
Waived: RPRF requested: November 13, 2013
Passport Req..
Visa exempt
VISA ISSUED...
January 6, 2014
LANDED..........
January 29, 2014
vpnss973 said:
You haven't read gladaki's request properly:

Sorry for that ,

Gladaki and Ipc19800 here are responses



Date First Submitted : DEC 14 , 2012
Date Received at CIO : DEC 24 , 2012
Date returned back : Jan 09 , 2013 ( on the Form there is a seal been stamped dated Dec 24 on Application)
Date Received at CIO : Jan 14 , 2013


The date your application was returned
Jan 09 , 2013
The date you resubmitted - did you send back the original
application or did you refill the forms?
Yes , i did resubmited and send back new set of forms , there was nothing to be refill , even signature missing was not applicable to me and i had not checked this form in Doc list as it does not apply to me
Were there red markings on your application?
Yes , there were red marking on application , like been ticket all over ...and there was stamp Date Dec 24 , 2012


Gladaki also asked for the message FROM CIC. You posted the message you send them which doesn't help much

Here is message from CIC
Hello,

Your application was received on 2013/01/21 and was therefore assessed based on the new language requirements , that were implemented on January 02, 2013. As a result, you do not meet the official language proficiency requirement because you did not obtain the required score on your language test.
Unfortunately I don't think you can argue this - you submitted new forms in January after the rules were changed. You will need to retake exam and then try again
 

jsm0085

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lpc19800 said:
Unfortunately I don't think you can argue this - you submitted new forms in January after the rules were changed. You will need to retake exam and then try again
Totally correct. You have no hope of an appeal.
 

ceeram

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Sep 11, 2012
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Canada
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Visa Office......
CPP-ottawa
NOC Code......
2173
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-01-2013
Doc's Request.
18-11-2013
AOR Received.
06-03-2013
Med's Request
02-12-2013
Med's Done....
02-12-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
20-12-2013
VISA ISSUED...
19-12-2013
LANDED..........
13-01-2014
Dude your date does not line up . CIC mail states it as 21 jan 2013 but u said it is 14th jan 2013 when they received your application. Which one is the right one.What date does ur ECAS show.
 

jsm0085

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rcherukuri09 said:
Hi
better take some legal advise
U will be ok .
No legal advice required. You submitted your app after new rules took effect. It's unfortunate but simple.