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siddharth27012004 said:
Its 70 days for PER,24 days for AOR, and the balance till date makes 208 days and counting. BTW guys, those who have applied under FSW2 cat are declared sitting ducks over the 29 noc list. Just compare my timeframe with bhavikcpatel. We both applied on the very same day. Its not funny man!

AEO applicants have more chances of getting application approved. Bhavick Patel is an exceptional case. His case was the fastest till now.

y dont u ttake case of varismart/...he applied on 22 dec2010 and got his PER on 14 july 2011?


and as far as i know last member who got MR with AEO category is zeddm and he got MR in 7 months.

so please be positive. Inshallah u will recieve goo news soon. :)
 
canadestin said:
AEO applicants have more chances of getting application approved. Bhavick Patel is an exceptional case. His case was the fastest till now.

y dont u ttake case of varismart/...he applied on 22 dec201 and got his PER on 14 july?


and as far as i know last member who got MR with AEO category is zeddm and he got MR in 7 months.

so please be positive. Inshallah u will recieve goo news soon. :)
thxs for the support, the main cause of worry is the increase in fraudulent AEOs. Thats the reason why the CIC is being very cautious in approving them. The last thing I heard about AEO applications from NDVO that only 30% are approved, which in a way gives me the jitters. ALL IZZ WELL!
 
siddharth27012004 said:
thxs for the support, the main cause of worry is the increase in fraudulent AEOs. Thats the reason why the CIC is being very cautious in approving them. The last thing I heard about AEO applications from NDVO that only 30% are approved, which in a way gives me the jitters. ALL IZZ WELL!
i understand....there may b lil prob for those AEO applicants whose employer in Canada has given job offer to many other foreign nationals. The CIC may check whether the people to whom the employer has given job offer n who got PR are still working with him or in real time did work for him.

If ur employer has not given Job offer to many then u need not to worry.
 
Sid, also remember this not a Visit/business Visa where the NDVO can refuse ur application without any genuine reason. For that visa categories it all depends upon Visa officer satisfation....
 
kehthe hai aksar kamoshi k baad toofan aata hai

aaj koi news nahi suni......kya GOOD news ka Toofan aaney wala hai? :o
 
Cappuccino said:
This is going to sound unpopular, but it saddens me that someone with borrowed funds has gotten a visa, when other honest applications have not or have been rejected because the cap is reached.

I think they need to be more stringent at CIO stage and insist on 12 months bank statements.

Wayne.

I must agree with you Wayne at the first place, But ... borrowing funds at the beginning of your application to Canada can be quite logic as you have about one year till you land (if the case goes on) ...

Because one can easily build up his savings during that year to hit the specified target. Especially if real estate is considered in the case.

Magdy
 
magdy580 said:
I must agree with you Wayne at the first place, But ... borrowing funds at the beginning of your application to Canada can be quite logic as you have about one year till you land (if the case goes on) ...

Because one can easily build up his savings during that year to hit the specified target. Especially if real estate is considered in the case.

Magdy

But it's not like he applied on borrowed funds with the intention of saving up his own funds prior to landing. Even that is technically against the rules but as long as you don't land until you have genuine funds of your own and repaid the loan then I can see it being at least morally reasonable.

But in this guy's case he is going to land on borrowed funds, and not repay the loan until some time after he has been in Canada. CIC have these rules to prevent people from landing in poor financial health and having to rely on the state to support them whilst they find work. Often settlement funds dwindle in a matter of a few months, and if those settlement funds don't even belong to him then at that stage he'd have no money AND have a large debt.

I don't see that fradulent funding is any better than fraudulent work experience/education letters etc.

I realise my views will be unpopular with some people on this thread, and I hate to sound discouraging - but when it comes to deliberate immigration fraud like bkcnbr I think there should be zero tolerance, and I am surprised CIC do not stamp down on this at an earlier stage by insisting on 6 to 12 months bank statements with the initial application at CIO.

Wayne.
 
saratracy said:
Hi GoHerd,

I am just a little bit curious, pls feel free to ignore my question if it doesn't make sense to you. As I understand you are us citizen (have us ppt), why do you want canadian pr?

Wish you all the best with your medicals.

saratracy
Hi saratracy,
Sorry to make you confused. Let me confirm this I am not a US citizen. what I meant was US passport pictures size 5x5cm, not my US passport. I just took pictures 2 days ago with US passport standard size. I will bring these pictures with me to take medical exam this friday
 
Cappuccino said:
I don't see that fradulent funding is any better than fraudulent work experience/education letters etc.

I agree, there is no difference.

I would suggest that landing with borrowed funds is even worse and could be taken as misrepresentation.
Why? Because not only does the applicant not own the actual funds, they are applying while concealing an undeclared debt.

I know it is a common practice, but that does not make it right.
 
Baloo said:
I agree, there is no difference.

I would suggest that landing with borrowed funds is even worse and could be taken as misrepresentation.
Why? Because not only does the applicant not own the actual funds, they are applying while concealing an undeclared debt.

I know it is a common practice, but that does not make it right.

Quite. As I said, if you apply with borrowed funds then save up funds of your own during the application process, repay the loan and then have sufficient genuine funds of your own when you land, then I can see this being at least moral, if technically against the rules.

Landing with large debts is unfair on other honest applicants, unfair on the Canadian welfare system and unfair on the applicants themselves when they find they are in for a sharp shock. It takes the average immigrant 3 to 6 months to secure a job after landing. And it's the honest tax-paying applicants that are going to end up paying for them when they end up on welfare.

What p*sses me off the most is now we have a capping system it is a visa which an honest applicant is not going to get.

bkcnbr is a Dec 2010 applicant with fraudulent funding about to get a visa, and there are many honest July/Aug/Sep/Oct/Nov 2010 applicants who aren't even in process yet!

Like I said I imagine I will be unpopular with some people and expect a large rain of "negs" for this, but it's something I feel most strongly about.
Wayne.
 
Cappuccino said:
But it's not like he applied on borrowed funds with the intention of saving up his own funds prior to landing. Even that is technically against the rules but as long as you don't land until you have genuine funds of your own and repaid the loan then I can see it being at least morally reasonable.

But in this guy's case he is going to land on borrowed funds, and not repay the loan until some time after he has been in Canada. CIC have these rules to prevent people from landing in poor financial health and having to rely on the state to support them whilst they find work. Often settlement funds dwindle in a matter of a few months, and if those settlement funds don't even belong to him then at that stage he'd have no money AND have a large debt.

I don't see that fradulent funding is any better than fraudulent work experience/education letters etc.

I realise my views will be unpopular with some people on this thread, and I hate to sound discouraging - but when it comes to deliberate immigration fraud like bkcnbr I think there should be zero tolerance, and I am surprised CIC do not stamp down on this at an earlier stage by insisting on 6 to 12 months bank statements with the initial application at CIO.

Wayne.

People should not borrow fund and wait until they get earned (May be in couple of year or more) so category can discart or new rules can come into effect ?
it is like poor country should not take loan or borrow fund to remove poverty or rise employment in their country and wait until they get to manage?

I stronly believe fund can be borrow even for immigration purpose and that fund also can be use at landing point

my friend borrowed fund from his uncle and took that to CANADA and paid back after year

does it make any difference ?
::)

Ismael
 
Ismael5 said:
People should not borrow fund and wait until they get earned (May be in couple of year or more) so category can discart or new rules can come into effect ?
it is like poor country should not take loan or borrow fund to remove poverty or rise employment in their country and wait until they get to manage?
I stronly believe fund can be borrow even for immigration purpose and that fund also can be use at landing point
my friend borrowed fund from his uncle and took that to CANADA and paid back after year
does it make any difference ? ::)
Ismael

Well, if that was alright, why would the CIC rules make it illegal?
 
Ismael5 said:
...

my friend borrowed fund from his uncle and took that to CANADA and paid back after year

Did he declare the debt to CIC?
Did he read the CIC information?

Guess what, CIC don't allow it.
 
Ismael5 said:
People should not borrow fund and wait until they get earned (May be in couple of year or more) so category can discart or new rules can come into effect ?
it is like poor country should not take loan or borrow fund to remove poverty or rise employment in their country and wait until they get to manage?

I stronly believe fund can be borrow even for immigration purpose and that fund also can be use at landing point

my friend borrowed fund from his uncle and took that to CANADA and paid back after year

does it make any difference ?
::)

Ismael

Check out:
http://www.canadianimmigrationinformation.com/2010/05/8-reasons-why-lying-in-an-application-to-immigrate-to-canada-is-a-bad-idea.html

"Lying to immigrate to Canada is not a good idea. Here's why:

- it's an offence under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act
- it makes you unreliable and means that other information you provided in an immigration application or in an immigration interview was likely untrue
- it makes you inadmissible to visit, study, work or immigrate permanently to Canada
- it affects the ability of your family members to immigrate to Canada
- it shows that you do not respect the rule of law and raises the question for immigration officers as to whether you can respect other laws if admitted to Canada
- it negatively affects the integrity of Canada's immigration system
- it means you may have jumped the queue to be in Canada ahead of applicants who were honest
- you will be deported from Canada

If you want to immigrate to Canada, honesty is not the best policy, it's the only policy. "

Makes me so mad that so many people on this forum think it's on to lie and cheat your way to a visa. That somehow they are above the rules and above the law and that none of this applies to them.

By lying about funds the applicant has already committed a CRIME before they have even set foot in the country. Do people really want to start their new lives in Canada as criminals already?

So, Ismael5, your strong belief that people can borrow funds and use borrowed funds at landing point is WRONG. What does this person do if they cannot find a job immediately? Dwindle away their borrowed funds and then rely on welfare, whilst continuing to have a large debt?

To everyone who tries it - I hope you are caught, and I hope you are duly prosecuted under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and never allowed to apply to Canada again.

Crooked people on this forum like Ismael5 and bkcnbr just make me want to leave and have nothing to do with this place.

Wayne.
 
Ismael5 said:
my friend borrowed fund from his uncle and took that to CANADA and paid back after year

Then your friend is another example of fraudsters who believe the laws and rules do not apply to them.

I hope he is caught and duly deported, although regrettably he will probably get away with it.

Wayne.