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[ammaartahir]

10:12 am in London: The visa officers are bent over our applications, poring through every detail; beads of sweat run down their foreheads as they battle the stress of dealing with another human being's life, their future, their dreams, their hopes and aspirations. The cup of tea on the desk turns colder every second, the biscuits and scones lay untouched. There may be storms or upheavals outside their windows; but they see nothing, they hear nothing; nothing but the sheaf of papers before them, the lives printed out on those pages and their responsibility to be just to them.

Or they could just be sitting around discussing the weather, the royal wedding and the terrible loss of Real Madrid to Barcelona yesterday!!!

lolz... I hope the former situation prevails!

 

[bluemusing]

Hey! I didn't "make this mess", the applicant who provided the fraudulent proof of funding information in his application did that. I was simply saying how wrong I felt it was.

I have "moved on" but please do not make me out to be the bad guy here, I am not the one breaking the law.

Wayne.

Wayne,

I think what annoyed some people was you calling the person a cheat, a liar and a fraud. Doing so implies a moral superiority. Have you never lied or cheated in life? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. You're entitled to voice your opinion but to personally insult someone on a public forum is out of line. Obviously this situation has affected more forum readers than just the original poster. I think all they ever wanted was an apology.

Andrew

PS - Congrats on the progress of your application. It's heartening for other London applicants!

 

[bluemusing]

Hello Seniors and All members,

Please do not lead this forum to the fighting club. ??? .. just ignore at least from now on .....

We all luv this forum...

Please it is my humble request that no further argument, plzzzzzzz... You all are genius and respectful.. Hope you agree to my point.


Always Cheers,
-Shadab

Sorry, I'll drop it too. Just saw this after posting previous comment.

 

[1122 Applicant]

OMG, I needed 20,000 and the paper showed only around 10,000 :'(
No nothing heard from cio yet. I sent the application on April 6th and as I follow the spreadsheet, ppl are getting PERs in almost a month, so I think I'll find out more about it in 10 days or so. My fear is that it'll be refused at Visa Office even if the cio issues a PER. In that case, I'll know about the rejection when it is too late to reapply for this yer. What a mess!

Have you got your medicals?
If not, you still have time to deposit money into your account.
By the way I have been discussing this issue with my lawyer since I received my PER.
I have some good news:

You may deposit a/some large amounts of money into your account all in once when you have some kind of proof that where dd you get this money for example you may say I have sold my car and then you need to show a translated copy of the sales. Or you might sell other properties and provide the appropriate valid documents to show you have sold them legally.
It is not a big issue don't worry about it.

 

[Cappuccino]

Wayne,

I think what annoyed some people was you calling the person a cheat, a liar and a fraud. Doing so implies a moral superiority. Have you never lied or cheated in life? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. You're entitled to voice your opinion but to personally insult someone on a public forum is out of line. Obviously this situation has affected more forum readers than just the original poster. I think all they ever wanted was an apology.

Andrew

PS - Congrats on the progress of your application. It's heartening for other London applicants!

Ok, get your facts straight. I did not call him a cheat, a liar or a fraud as a personal insult. My posts were civil and contained no personal insults.

I said I believed that what he was doing was cheating the system, which it was, and was fraudulent, which it was, and that I felt the company that had loaned him the money were also "telling lies" by providing a letter falsely claiming that the money would not need to be paid back, which they were. That isn't the same as saying "Hey you're cheat, a liar and a fraud!" so please don't twist my words this way.

I have done nothing that requires an apology - and I am not the bad guy here. And if you check back through my history of points you will see I am the first to apologise if I believe I have posted anything wrongly.

I've made over 2600 posts here and have worked tirelessly hard to help people and this is really annoying me now. If several people think I owe an apology for saying that it's inappropriate that we should be condoning fraudulent activity here - then frankly I may just delete my account now.

Currently I am beginning to dislike being a member of this thread the way things are going.

If defending the truth and trying to keep everything here legal and honest is a crime that requires an apology, then I'm outta here.

Wayne.

 

[Cappuccino]

Sorry, I'll drop it too. Just saw this after posting previous comment.

I am trying like crazy to "drop this" and every time I do someone like you pokes the argument with a stick by saying I owe everyone an apology????????

Wayne.

 

[smiler 11]

Wayne your posts on here mean so much to myself and others,you have did fabulous work on this forum. Things seem to be getting heated on the forum just now. All try to relax a little and stop looking for something to moan about. This forum wouldnt be the same without Wayne . So please lets all forget about the subject thats causing all the posts,everyone has there own thoughts on things if neg just stay quiet. Its a holiday weekend here in the UK maybe London might not take it and work on all our apps to make us all smile. Have a great weekend everyone ;D :-*

 

[DarKnight]

I am trying like crazy to "drop this" and every time I do someone like you pokes the argument with a stick by saying I owe everyone an apology????????

Wayne.

Well, it just proves you get instigated too easily Wayne.

Not Good... not good at all.

Cheers!
Knight in Shining Armor

 

[arjignesh]

Thanks for inviting..

Application Date- 24th Jan 2011
1 AOR - 21st march 2011
2 AOR - waiting
3 PCC - waiting
4 Medical - waiting

 

[indira_prab]

Hello Seniors and All members,
Please do not lead this forum to the fighting club. ??? .. just ignore at least from now on .....
We all luv this forum...
Please it is my humble request that no further argument, plzzzzzzz... You all are genius and respectful.. Hope you agree to my point.
Always Cheers,
-Shadab

I did not want to get into this, but now i feel it's OK to have my say here . I wish this is the last one on this topic.

Every member has the right to speak his own views here. We are all from different cultures and backgrounds and so it is perfectly normal to have this sort of differences in opinions.

BUT, i would prefer to just reiterate that we have ALL sorts of people in this forum and the only way to keep your cool and that of the forum is, just ignore the posts that you do not appreciate or agree with. You may just say that you do not agree and appreciate the content, but yes, you cannot do enough to get rid of that views/post/user.

In this case, there was a person, who came forward to share his personal info that he had loaned some money from his employer to facilitate his POF requirements. There is nothing wrong in this, except that there is a risk of rejection if the VO confirms the money is not eligible for a POF as stated. First, not everyone is well off in their home country to become eligible for immigration by default. In-fact that is still one of the primary reasons why people choose immigration. A lot of us do sell our properties, cars, use ALL of the possible money to immigrate(including the amount we use as POF). Further, some might even go to the extent to borrow from friends and relatives to help themselves become eligible for immigration. As long as there are no conflicts between the lender and the borrower, this should be OK.

The thing on CIC's website obviously says, 'The money should belong to the applicants', as it has to be available for the applicants for their settlement in Canada. Yes, after borrowing the money is obviously the applicants' and it's between the lender and the applicant as to how the repayments are scheduled, if at all they are due. So, obviously that money will be available for the applicant while he arrives in Canada and so, he is not going to drain the public funds there in this case. I guess the CIC's specifications only apply to that money, which is borrowed for a limited time(during the application), for example, one might just borrow the money from the day he prints his POF to the day he receives his Visa. Unfortunately this happens quite often and so the VOs might be This sort of borrowing is the one actually not qualified for immigration.

Hope i did not confuse or offend anyone . I wish Bkcnbr good luck on his application

Thanks,

Indira Prabhakaran.

 

[indira_prab]

Thanks for inviting..
Application Date- 24th Jan 2011
1 AOR - 21st march 2011
2 AOR - waiting
3 PCC - waiting
4 Medical - waiting

Welcome Jignesh BTW we have another member called Jignesh here already.

Please go through the tracker in my signature and give us complete details(as many as possible) so we can add you to our group.

Thanks,

Indira Prabhakaran.

 

[1122 Applicant]

ALL FRIENDS IN THE FORUM,

I DON'T THINK THIS WAY WE ARE GOING TO GET ANY WHERE. I PERSONALLY THINK PROVIDING ANY PIECE OF IFORMATION WHICH IS NOT TRUE IS AGAINST THE MORALITY. I WOULDN'T SUGGEST OR ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO DO THIS. REFERING TO THE GUYS WHO ARE PROMOTING THOSE ACTIVITIES I WOULD SAY SO WHY ARE YOU MOVING TO ANOTHER COUNTRY LIKE CANADA? PROBABLY YOU CAN DO THE BEST EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE AND YOU HAVE GOT MANY GOOD CONNECTION AND RELATIONS TO DO SO!

ON THE OTHER HAND THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PROVIDING FALSE INFORMATION BOTH LEGALLY AND MORALLY IS ON THE SHOULDER OF PERSON WHO DOES SO. THIS IS THE MEANING OF DEMOCRACY. WE AS HUMAN BEINGS ARE NOT POWERFUL ENOUGH TO ERADICATE THESE ACTIVITIES.IF WE BELEIVE WE ARE HONEST ONES -EVEN WHEN OTHER PEOPLE CAN NOT CATCH US RED-HANDED - WE SHOULDN'T DO ANY THING AGAINST THE MORALITY.

I SUGGEST ALL FRIENDS TO READ MY PREVIOUS POST REGARDING THE PROOF OF FUNDS.

REMEMEBER:
TOGETHER WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL

CHERRS
BAHMAN

 

[indira_prab]

ND VO spreadsheet admins,
Please update the date of docs submission to 9th April for mptocanada.
Thanks.

Done

Thanks,

Indira Prabhakaran.

 

[asoo62]

Yes I've quoted the right amount of money in the form, so I really hope what you said will be the case ad they ask me for an update.

At which stage is your friend's application? Has he passed the CIO eligibility review yet (i.e. does he have his PER)?

If you have a file number for him and the file has got to the visa office, then I would sent updated statements to the visa office without delay, quoting name, date of birth and file number.

If your friends application is still at CIO then it's probably just a question of wait and see. If your friend wrote the correct funds on the forms then CIO may give you chance to submit the correct statements, or send it to VO and let them query it.

Wayne.

 

[ammaartahir]

I did not want to get into this, but now i feel it's OK to have my say here . I wish this is the last one on this topic.

Every member has the right to speak his own views here. We are all from different cultures and backgrounds and so it is perfectly normal to have this sort of differences in opinions.

BUT, i would prefer to just reiterate that we have ALL sorts of people in this forum and the only way to keep your cool and that of the forum is, just ignore the posts that you do not appreciate or agree with. You may just say that you do not agree and appreciate the content, but yes, you cannot do enough to get rid of that views/post/user.

In this case, there was a person, who came forward to share his personal info that he had loaned some money from his employer to facilitate his POF requirements. There is nothing wrong in this, except that there is a risk of rejection if the VO confirms the money is not eligible for a POF as stated. First, not everyone is well off in their home country to become eligible for immigration by default. In-fact that is still one of the primary reasons why people choose immigration. A lot of us do sell our properties, cars, use ALL of the possible money to immigrate(including the amount we use as POF). Further, some might even go to the extent to borrow from friends and relatives to help themselves become eligible for immigration. As long as there are no conflicts between the lender and the borrower, this should be OK.

The thing on CIC's website obviously says, 'The money should belong to the applicants', as it has to be available for the applicants for their settlement in Canada. Yes, after borrowing the money is obviously the applicants' and it's between the lender and the applicant as to how the repayments are scheduled, if at all they are due. So, obviously that money will be available for the applicant while he arrives in Canada and so, he is not going to drain the public funds there in this case. I guess the CIC's specifications only apply to that money, which is borrowed for a limited time(during the application), for example, one might just borrow the money from the day he prints his POF to the day he receives his Visa. Unfortunately this happens quite often and so the VOs might be This sort of borrowing is the one actually not qualified for immigration.

Hope i did not confuse or offend anyone . I wish Bkcnbr good luck on his application

Thanks,

Indira Prabhakaran.

Wow, +1 for you Indira!