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thebeast184 said:
Wayne,

Don't you think we will become part of this backlog of applicants if the professions in demand change this coming June and unfortunately we where just in hands of slow VOS's? I really hope we are not... :'(

Rod

Hi thebeast184,
I agree with you. with the new rules coming up , soon post 26 June will join the backlog. It is very clear. India is always on the front. I am very certain the 1st Visas for Post June 26 will come from Asian region.

We who belong to Pre- June 26 will wait and life will continue even with a yes or a no.

Hope we all will arrive there one day.
 
Cappuccino said:
By cumberstone and lengthy (two words which don't mean anything without a frame of reference), could you please embelish a bit. What is involved in getting a tourist visa and how long does it take?
Wayne.
Well, to compare it with our FSW application, it takes 60% of the paperwork that we did (minus IELTS and old employers, everything else) and time frame with interview is about 2 months (on the embassy side)so add to that the time to collect documents and so on.
Then the Canadian embassy in Dublin will send it to London for something and then it will be issued. So say 3 to 4 months in total.
 
kolhapuri said:
Wayne, it is good for you (read Europeans) to say that as you all can pick up your bag and go to Canada as a tourist. For us (read most Asians) we need a tourist visa and if you see the requirements of the tourist visa, they are very cumbersome and lengthy (read not easy). Cheers

I concur.

As someone who come originally from a visa required country, and now holding a passport of a non visa required country, I can tell you there's a whole lot of difference in terms of ease of short term travel (a la temporary visit) between the two categories. To put this in perspective: If most people from visa required country here on this forum apply for a visiting visa with the same amount of documentations and proof of funds that is required for the FSW PR process, most will be refused a visiting visa. That is the reality, not only for Canada, so it is for the US, Australia and the UK.

While I generally agree that the 67 point requirement is fair enough for most of the professions listed on the current MI, chances of getting AoE will continue to be lesser for the visa required countries principally for the aforementioned reason.


9j
 
thebeast184 said:
Wayne,

Don't you think we will become part of this backlog of applicants if the professions in demand change this coming June and unfortunately we where just in hands of slow VOS's? I really hope we are not... :'(

Rod

Dear Wayne,

Is there any system introduced like, who don't have Minimum moderate IELTS band in each section, VOs will ask to provide IELTS score again?

I heard that from one of my friends that this decision has made on last Friday's meeting of CIC but yet to published in websites!

Regards,
ekram787
 
kolhapuri said:
Well, to compare it with our FSW application, it takes 60% of the paperwork that we did (minus IELTS and old employers, everything else) and time frame with interview is about 2 months (on the embassy side)so add to that the time to collect documents and so on.
Then the Canadian embassy in Dublin will send it to London for something and then it will be issued. So say 3 to 4 months in total.

Ok so whereas it is certainly not as easy as it is for Europeans - 3 to 4 months to get a visa and then however long it took in Canada to get a job offer. Most sufficiently motivated people could therefore have a job offer within 6 months.

Obviously FSW1 is better if you are eligible, but FSW2 is certainly not impossible for anyone with sufficient drive and motivation.

Wayne.
 
Thanks.. :)

2011maple said:
Hi Raj,

I had a similar question and please see the link below for the response from Qorax.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t67798.0.html

I also found some related answer to your query on the Russian website below:

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/russia-russie/visas/permanent_resident_visa.aspx?lang=eng

Hope it helps.

MB
 
ekram787 said:
Dear Wayne,

Is there any system introduced like, who don't have Minimum moderate IELTS band in each section, VOs will ask to provide IELTS score again?

I heard that from one of my friends that this decision has made on last Friday's meeting of CIC but yet to published in websites!

Regards,
ekram787

Nothing has been published yet - but I think any new rules will apply only to those people who apply from 1st July 2011 onwards.

Those pre-July-2011 applicants will be assessed on the rules at the time they applied, so if you made the 67 points and your occupation does not require any minimum language score, then they will not ask you to prove a higher level of language just because the new rules require it for new applicants.

Wayne.
 
Cappuccino said:
Ok so whereas it is certainly not as easy as it is for Europeans - 3 to 4 months to get a visa and then however long it took in Canada to get a job offer. Most sufficiently motivated people could therefore have a job offer within 6 months.

Obviously FSW1 is better if you are eligible, but FSW2 is certainly not impossible for anyone with sufficient drive and motivation.

Wayne.

I don't think the major obstacle lies in the waiting time as much as the fact that most people within certain age profile are generally considered as potential long term immigrants who are using the temporary visit route as a back door to enter the country. Most authorities have the right to refuse entry visa on reasonable assumption that applicants may not honor the terms of their visa as in return to their country as at when due. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the applicant may have qualifications, financial wherewithal and work experience in professions that are considered as needed in the country. While it certainly not impossible to obtain visiting visas, just highlighting the fact that it's a different kettle of fish. it's usually a higher huddle to clear for most people than just applying for FSW1.

9j
 
hey jignesh

Can you please confirm the postal address where you have sent the documents.

Rgds,Raj.

jignesh79 said:
Hi,
Sent RPRF and Passports today
 
Cappuccino said:
Very well said! Anyone who is serious can book themselves a 2 week holiday, get over there and get a job offer, sort the LMO and then go there permanently once their TWP comes in and apply from there. With a job offer you would get +15 points which should be very sufficient for anybody of decent intelligence and education to get over 67 points.

This is certainly the route we were resided to taking (had to wait until close to August 2011 since we can't sell our house before then) but with the rule changes of 26th June 2010 the FSW1 opportunity presented itself.

I do find it a bit tiresome when backlog applicants whine about how unfair it is that they have to wait so long. Whereas I have sympathy for the long wait they've endured, the fact is they don't have the skills Canada needs right now - and if they were serious they could be in Canada within 12 to 15 months if they'd go find a job rather than wait 3,4,5,6,7 years in the backlog. Or if they ARE on the new FSW1 list this is nothing to prevent them from making a parallel application.

I honestly don't see why Canada should process backlog applicants with no job offers who are not on the in-demand list - since all this would achieve would be to bring them in to take jobs off Canadians, which is not what Canada wants or needs.

Wayne.

A job in Canada in two weeks for a foreigner ??? how?? it is not that easy, and the 15 points are awarded only if the job is a skilled one, a goog source of information for getting a job in Canada as a foreigner is the web page indeed, type foreign workers, then Canada and a list will be displayed but once again most of those jobs are unskilled ones, you guys can also try the job bank with the same search criteria, once in a while you will find skilled positions opened for anybody that matches their criteria, another web page, latrpo for english-spanish speakers, most of the jobs are under the skilled category, sorry to disagree but I do not think its realistic to assume you will get a job offer in two weeks but yes, it is possible with lots of patience.......

Kala
 
Cappuccino said:
By cumberstone and lengthy (two words which don't mean anything without a frame of reference), could you please embelish a bit. What is involved in getting a tourist visa and how long does it take?

Wayne.
You can fill in all the documents, pay the fees, but you still have to convince a VO that you will leave the country after the visit. No matter what you do or say (you have family, properties, finances, proof of leaving western countries in the past) they can interpret your information however they wish. From the point of view of anyone from a non-visa required country, YES, coming for a holiday and looking for work seems like a no brainer, even an intelligent step in the process. But for the many who aren't given the opportunity to visit before making that huge leap of faith to immigrate, it is an impossible dream.
 
Pippin said:
You can fill in all the documents, pay the fees, but you still have to convince a VO that you will leave the country after the visit. No matter what you do or say (you have family, properties, finances, proof of leaving western countries in the past) they can interpret your information however they wish. From the point of view of anyone from a non-visa required country, YES, coming for a holiday and looking for work seems like a no brainer, even an intelligent step in the process. But for the many who aren't given the opportunity to visit before making that huge leap of faith to immigrate, it is an impossible dream.

Harder, I will of course concede now I have learnt about the difficulties of a visitor's visa. But not impossible.

Wayne.
 
Cappuccino said:
Ok so whereas it is certainly not as easy as it is for Europeans - 3 to 4 months to get a visa and then however long it took in Canada to get a job offer. Most sufficiently motivated people could therefore have a job offer within 6 months.
Obviously FSW1 is better if you are eligible, but FSW2 is certainly not impossible for anyone with sufficient drive and motivation.
Wayne.

Agree with Pippin. The processing of a tourist visa is so dubious and the rejection can have no reason attached to it. For example, in my firm we all were going to certain country for a business visit and the firm was paying for transport and stay there. Out of the group of 20, 6 people required visa and in spite of submitting the same papers by everyone, 2 did not get it. No reasons given for refusal. Thats it.
 
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Cappuccino said:
Harder, I will of course concede now I have learnt about the difficulties of a visitor's visa. But not impossible.
Wayne.
Nothing is impossible Wayne, nothing. But if your visa is rejected, you get a negative mark on your record (and those buggers write it on your passport) for no reason and you have to write it down everytime you apply to that or any other country for ever later.