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[IRG]

WOW! I am in shock. Although this will not affect some people, and some will be processed faster, MANY old applications will be affected by this! Many old applicants will simply not pass the new qualification requirements under the new rules once they are passed, and applications which would have otherwise passed through, will now be denied!

"A similar change would allow new regulations, once approved, to apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application."

The new rules:

"points system will be reformed to reflect the importance of younger immigrants with Canadian work experience and better official language skills."

Furthermore:

"FSW applicants will have their foreign educational credentials assessed and verified abroad as a part of the application process."

I am speechless! Many old applicants would not qualify under the new point system being considered, or because of age restrictions that will be applied, or the new language skill levels... I could understand if they would say these rules will apply from now on, but to say that they will apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application is plain unfair.

Each one of us has spent money, time and resources to apply for PR visa because we met the application rules at the time, to come and change these rules after all this time and disqualify candidates is shameful in my opinion.

I guess the only question left is when these new regulations would be approved and become effective?? Anyone have an idea?

Cam

Please God it wont be approved and passed for a while :'(

 

[IRG]

I wonder if they'll refund all fees that 've been paid : ???

 

[Desiguy79]

thebeast,
I also got the medical requests along with the request for permanent residence fee. It all came yesterday. Had applied in Oct 2010. First AOR got in Feb 2011.

Desiguy79

 

[Cam1234]

I wonder if they'll refund all fees that 've been paid : ???

A very good point IRG, and the answer I believe is no. This is a very shrewd way to turn down thousands of applicants: "change would allow new regulations, once approved, to apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application."

So basically when the new laws are passed, in a month before the post June 2012 applicants, they will be applied to us as well... and many will simply get a letter saying under the new point system you don't qualify, goodbye.

This is beyond unfair and unjust, it is having no concern or regard to what you do to people; as long as they get the people they want everything is fine. Who cares if each of us spent thousands of dollars, months of work gathering documents, running around filling out applications... Frankly, I can't believe they are treating people this way.

Cam

Summary: Current vs. Proposed Federal Skilled Worker Points Grid
Selection Criteria Current System Proposed System
Education 25 25
Language 24 28
Work Experience 21 15
Age 10 12
Arranged Employment 10 10
Adaptability 10 10
Total 100 100

 

[Wolvy]

A very good point IRG, and the answer I believe is no. This is a very shrewd way to turn down thousands of applicants: "change would allow new regulations, once approved, to apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application."

So basically when the new laws are passed, in a month before the post June 2012 applicants, they will be applied to us as well... and many will simply get a letter saying under the new point system you don't qualify, goodbye.

This is beyond unfair and unjust, it is having no concern or regard to what you do to people; as long as they get the people they want everything is fine. Who cares if each of us spent thousands of dollars, months of work gathering documents, running around filling out applications... Frankly, I can't believe they are treating people this way.

Cam

If this is what happens then indeed unfair and unjust and frankly don't know how they would get away with it. I've been thinking alot about this and I am wondering what is meant by applying the new MI retroactively. Would only the priority NOCs (ie fast tracking certain NOC not depending on when applied) or would the selection criteria change in points be applied as well? It would make Canada much less attractive to prospective immigrants because they wouldn't know what criteria they will be assessed under, the criteria at the time they applied or some new MI that comes along a year or two later.

 

[thebeast184]

I think it makes more sense that it is only the priority NOC's that would be changed. Otherwise they would have done a full hit and delete everyone including us post june applicants

Just my thought

If this is what happens then indeed unfair and unjust and frankly don't know how they would get away with it. I've been thinking alot about this and I am wondering what is meant by applying the new MI retroactively. Would only the priority NOCs (ie fast tracking certain NOC not depending on when applied) or would the selection criteria change in points be applied as well? It would make Canada much less attractive to prospective immigrants because they wouldn't know what criteria they will be assessed under, the criteria at the time they applied or some new MI that comes along a year or two later.

 

[Wolvy]

I think it makes more sense that it is only the priority NOC's that would be changed. Otherwise they would have done a full hit and delete everyone including us post june applicants

Just my thought

I agree with you, I think only the priority NOC would change and would apply to all applicants that have applied in those NOCs. Only time will tell though.

 

[prashantbarot01]

but what about the person who has done medical and he has received the letter to courier the passport to visa office within a month?

 

[harry_aussie]

Dear Cam,

I don't think applicants will be treated the way you have mentioned. This is what exactly happened here in Australia. Your application will be assessed according to the point system you applied. Only difference will be for the people who have applied under certain NOC's, their processing time will see a good jump.

Yes, application processing time for people who wont be in those chosen NOC's will slow down further. Please have a look at Australian immigration website to have a look what you will expect in coming months.

 

[thebeast184]

You are ok. You wont be affected. Look at what they did with the pre 2008 backlog. They only deleted those that had not been reviewed yet

Relax 8)
Rod

but what about the person who has done medical and he has received the letter to courier the passport to visa office within a month?

 

[Cam1234]

The change in points would apply to us as well, read the words, it is in black and white. The point is, we all applied because we thought we would pass the old point system. If we knew we would not be able to make the points, we would not have spent thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours on these applications. If we knew we would not qualify, as will be the case for many under the new point system, we would have never applied!

 

[Cam1234]

Dear Cam,

I don't think applicants will be treated the way you have mentioned. This is what exactly happened here in Australia. Your application will be assessed according to the point system you applied. Only difference will be for the people who have applied under certain NOC's, their processing time will see a good jump.

Yes, application processing time for people who wont be in those chosen NOC's will slow down further. Please have a look at Australian immigration website to have a look what you will expect in coming months.

I hope you are right Harry, but the news release does not read that way...

"change would allow new regulations, once approved, to apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application. "

This means ALL the new changes would apply to us too... am I wrong?

 

[IRG]

........
Yes, application processing time for people who wont be in those chosen NOC's will slow down further.........

It doesnt make sense the way they change system, it will create another huge backlog for all post June 2010-2011 applicants, with those NOCs that arent on urgent demand list.

They only cleared one, and another one will be on the way. Not clever way at all.

 

[Cam1234]

It doesnt make sense the way they change system, it will create another huge backlog for all post June 2010-2011 applicants, with those NOCs that arent on urgent demand list.

They only cleared one, and another one will be on the way. Not clever way at all.

Hi IRG:

I hate to emphasize this terrible news release, it has certainly made me very upset, but I urge everyone to read it again:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2012/2012-04-17.asp

It is actually a very clever way to get rid of many many applications. Rod mentioned they could have deleted us too, like pre 2008 people. But the point is, in this way they will not pay us a dime... they will simply say the rules changed, they affect you too, and now you don't qualify. Bye.

Look, if you are 35 and under, read and write English at a very high level, have high educational credentials, are in a NOC with high demand meaning you can get a job right now, then you are in... the rest, they don't want. Period. That is what they will be doing to all applicants.

 

[harry_aussie]

Dear friends ,there is no need to panic and live under stress.

I know, applicants who have not received their visas yet have all the rights to complain. I am stressing on having a look at Aus immigration rules because Canada is following exactly the same path. Here in Aus applications are now divided into 5 processing categories. Less priority occupation applications are being assesed parallel to priority applications.