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This new development is like adding salt to injury...only time will tell what all this means to people who have already submitted applications.
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Proposed Changes to CEC and Skilled Worker Applications

Posted: April 17, 2012 by Admin

Immigration Minister Kenney has recently announced changes... A similar change would allow new regulations, once approved, to apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application. There is no doubt that CIC will face a law suit over these proposed changes, as they remove all certainty for applicants and are a clear breach of procedural fairness.

http://www.borderslawfirm.com/articles.php?aid=111&link=proposed-changes-to-cec-and-skilled-worker-applications
 

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saahil said:
Thankyou Bhakti...

i wish to see all of us getting connected on facebook.....
i hope there should be a page for canadian immigration ....
bec once hopefully by gods grace we reach there atleast we will
be able to help each other by giving right suggestions.... about the jobs opportunities
and place to live.... iv also mentioned this on other threads......

but it seems people are not so comfortable to reveal their identitiy..
this is just my opinion.....
Hi Saahil,

There already is a fb group! :)

It's a secret group though... So you cannot search it... You need to befriend one of the members in order for them to invite you to the group (and then the moderators will approve the invitation)... You can reveal your fb email id here or on PM and one of us can add you :)

Best,

Bhakti
 

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Cam1234 said:
Jason Kenney – the Energizer Bunny Goes Too Far
Posted by admin in blog

Jason Kenney has been racing across the country, making announcements about changes to the immigration system at every stop. Vancouver one day, Calgary the next . . . today it was Winnipeg. It's enough to make you dizzy!

Maybe it's making him dizzy too, because today he went too far in announcing two additional changes that will “help transform Canada's immigration system” – not, unfortunately, for the better. These changes will make Canada's immigration system one in which applicants are subject to arbitrary rule changes in mid game. People who applied in good faith under one set of rules could find themselves out in the cold when the Minister changes his mind about what kind of immigrants he wants.

One proposed change would allow new regulations, once approved, to apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application. “These changes” CIC gushed in their press release, “would help ensure that immigrants are chosen based on Canada's current needs and priorities”. That will be a real hit with applicants and do wonders for Canada's reputation for fairness worldwide! It will be like entering a hockey tournament and having the referee blow his whistle and tossing you out in the middle of the game because the league has just announced new rules requiring everyone to play with a baseball bat and one running shoe.

A similar change CIC says, would help then ensure FSW applicants meet current labour market needs. It would allow new rules set out in Ministerial Instructions to apply to people who have already submitted an application.

This is how CIC explains it in their press release. “For example, instructions could place a priority on a specific occupation, such as doctors, and have existing applications from doctors processed first, regardless of where they are in the queue.” To me it sounds like being at the front of the line at a club when the bouncer decides to let in “The 4 Guys” from the Captain Morgan Rum commercial because they're trending on Twitter.

Some of the changes Kenney has announced recently make sense in terms of modernising our immigration system – but this emphasis on treating immigrants as economic units instead of people and throwing out any vestiges of procedural fairness demeans Canada.

http://premiercic.com/pages/jason-kenney-the-energizer-bunny-goes-too-far/
Cam1234 said:
Borders Law Firm

Proposed Changes to CEC and Skilled Worker Applications

Posted: April 17, 2012 by Admin

Immigration Minister Kenney has recently announced changes... A similar change would allow new regulations, once approved, to apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application. There is no doubt that CIC will face a law suit over these proposed changes, as they remove all certainty for applicants and are a clear breach of procedural fairness.

http://www.borderslawfirm.com/articles.php?aid=111&link=proposed-changes-to-cec-and-skilled-worker-applications
It's just so obvious that this is a sheer deceit in every way... Hope it faces a lot of protest and JK feels like the mad man that he is turning out to be - enough to make him reconsider all these insane whims! Of everything else, applying new rules to old applicants is the most obviously iniquitous thing to do!!!!!
 

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Destined said:
Dear All, :)

FInally I have landed in our dream country.. My LANDING EXPERIENCE IN SIMPLE WORDS : "canada is worth all the struggle( WAIT period :p :p) we applicants undergo.."

Destined 8) 8) 8)
Congratulations Destined.....Welcome... :)

Mitali
 

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Destined said:
Dear All, :)

FInally I have landed in our dream country.. My LANDING EXPERIENCE IN SIMPLE WORDS : "canada is worth all the struggle( WAIT period :p :p) we applicants undergo.."

In detail...
Landed at Toronto by 8.00 PM, everything is same as what our seniors said in their experiences., Officers are good, but be prepared & they will appreciate your preparation.Dont carry any diary products like Ghee( Indians).Seeds that look suspicious. I wonder why they(Immigration officer) did not ask me to sign the PR application form5444. Request seniors to answer if that is fine.

Landed only 2 days back throught Airport. hardly took 20 minutes of time @ airport, Applying for SIN took 5 minutes. Toronto is good, Well cultured people around, I am staying at Missisagua.
Temperature is good now a days... Getting a survival job is not so difficult, But Canadian experience seems to matter to some extent.

Got very good Landlord, who is taking me around in his car everday & showing the town. He is a friend's friend. So if you know someone do not hesitate to call them before you land here... :-* :-* :-*

Carry all your prescribed medicines & check out if your mobile will work here in Canadian frequncies.. Need to take my mobile & internet connections .. Wind seems to be best followed by Mobilcity...

Best luck to u all ... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Regards
Destined 8) 8) 8)
Thanks for sharing, Destined!! Wishing you the best ahead too :)

(Plz check PM)
 

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saahil said:
Bhakti,

iv sent you a pm.. i hope i get connected to the group soon...

saahil
I have replied :)
 

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Hi guys,

Along the line with our on going discussion about CIC's proposal on changes effecting FSW, I did some back of the envelope calculations about excess demand and excess supply of the current 29 occupations based on the URL: http://www23.hrsdc.gc.ca/w.2lc.4m.2 @ -eng.jsp. HRSDC project the figures in the period of 2011 and 2020.

The figures may not reveal much about the 4 digit occupation code since HRSDC only project job demand and supply figures based on first 3 digit. In many cases, it means the figures only reflect a bigger group of occupations as a whole, not exactly the occupation in FSW list. If you guys know better resources to calculate the numbers, please tell us. Though I am not a fan of quantitative studies and I am not sure how precise HRSDC projections are, it seems that CIC will rely on these figures to decide which occupations will get priority or be left behind in queue. For example, as some of you guys said before, CIC'll prioritise applications from doctors as it said in the press release on its website. All three doctors' NOC codes 3111, 3112, 3113 belong to "Physicians, Dentists And Veterinarians", which is projected to have 10,097 jobs unfilled due to lack of job seekers between 2011-2020. Surprisingly, cooks, chefs, plumbers, welders are not foreseen as occupations in high demand at all as expected.

Personally, I find Kenney is too rational and becomes crazy when he proposes the changes based those dry figures to decide the fates of genuine applicants. But I won't be startled if CIC proposal for those changes is approved given what happened with pre 2008 applicants. In that case, those occupations in excess demand in HRSDC predictions will go into process faster.

saratracy



For Managers In Food Service And Accommodation, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 80,630. It is expected that 80,352 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 278 0631

For Managers In Primary Production (Except Agriculture), over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 6,410. It is expected that 7,071 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. -661 0811

For Human Resources And Business Service Professionals, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 116,312. It is expected that 95,425 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 20,887 1122

For Finance And Insurance Administrative Occupations, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 110,024. It is expected that 80,724 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 29,300 1233

For Life Science Professionals, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 10,242. It is expected that 10,875 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. -633 2121

For Architects, Urban Planners And Land Surveyors, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 13,109. It is expected that 12,628 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 481 2151

For Physicians, Dentists And Veterinarians, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 56,663. It is expected that 46,566 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 10,097 3111, 3112, 3113

For Pharmacists, Dietitians And Nutritionists, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 12,837. It is expected that 15,097 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. -2,260 3131

For Therapy And Assessment Professionals, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 21,798. It is expected that 23,870 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. -2,072 3142

For Nurse Supervisors And Registered Nurses, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 159,613. It is expected that 128,671 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 30,942 3152

For Medical Technologists And Technicians (Except Dental Health), over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 39,603. It is expected that 41,321 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. -1,718 3215

For Technical Occupations In Dental Health Care, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 10,091. It is expected that 9,664 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 427 3222

For Other Technical Occupations In Health Care (Except Dental), over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 61,310. It is expected that 56,447 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 4863 3233

For Psychologists, Social Workers, Counsellors, Clergy And Probation Officers, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 76,240. It is expected that 68,988 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings 7252 4151, 4152

For Chefs And Cooks, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 76,058. It is expected that 94,612 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. -18,554 6241,6241

For Contractors And Supervisors, Trades And Related Workers, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 100,094. It is expected that 92,352 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 7,742 7215, 7216

For Electrical Trades And Telecommunications Occupations, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 86,458. It is expected that 71,450 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 15,008 7241

For Plumbers, Pipefitters And Gas Fitters, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 22,157. It is expected that 31,686 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. -9,529 7251

For Metal Forming, Shaping And Erecting Occupations, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 45,708. It is expected that 52,751 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. -7,043 7265

For Machinery And Transportation Equipment Mechanics (Except MotorVehicle), over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 76,236. It is expected that 75,688 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 548 7312

For Crane Operators, Drillers And Blasters, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 7,657. It is expected that 6,700 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 957 7371,7372

For Supervisors, Mining, Oil And Gas, over the period of 2011-2020, job openings are expected to total 12,928. It is expected that 5,514 job seekers will be available to fill these job openings. 7,414 8222



Cam1234 said:
Jason Kenney – the Energizer Bunny Goes Too Far
Posted by admin in blog

Jason Kenney has been racing across the country, making announcements about changes to the immigration system at every stop. Vancouver one day, Calgary the next . . . today it was Winnipeg. It's enough to make you dizzy!

Maybe it's making him dizzy too, because today he went too far in announcing two additional changes that will “help transform Canada's immigration system” – not, unfortunately, for the better. These changes will make Canada's immigration system one in which applicants are subject to arbitrary rule changes in mid game. People who applied in good faith under one set of rules could find themselves out in the cold when the Minister changes his mind about what kind of immigrants he wants.

One proposed change would allow new regulations, once approved, to apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application. “These changes” CIC gushed in their press release, “would help ensure that immigrants are chosen based on Canada's current needs and priorities”. That will be a real hit with applicants and do wonders for Canada's reputation for fairness worldwide! It will be like entering a hockey tournament and having the referee blow his whistle and tossing you out in the middle of the game because the league has just announced new rules requiring everyone to play with a baseball bat and one running shoe.

A similar change CIC says, would help then ensure FSW applicants meet current labour market needs. It would allow new rules set out in Ministerial Instructions to apply to people who have already submitted an application.

This is how CIC explains it in their press release. “For example, instructions could place a priority on a specific occupation, such as doctors, and have existing applications from doctors processed first, regardless of where they are in the queue.” To me it sounds like being at the front of the line at a club when the bouncer decides to let in “The 4 Guys” from the Captain Morgan Rum commercial because they're trending on Twitter.

Some of the changes Kenney has announced recently make sense in terms of modernising our immigration system – but this emphasis on treating immigrants as economic units instead of people and throwing out any vestiges of procedural fairness demeans Canada.



http://premiercic.com/pages/jason-kenney-the-energizer-bunny-goes-too-far/
 

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saahil said:
Daash,

you read the comments above by cam??? this is wat scares me.... :(
i hope i get thru soon
You will :)
 

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BhaktiUjjwal said:
It's just so obvious that this is a sheer deceit in every way... Hope it faces a lot of protest and JK feels like the mad man that he is turning out to be - enough to make him reconsider all these insane whims!
Hi BhaktiUjjwal:

That is what I have been saying all along. We need to spread the word around so applicants become informed and aware of what is about to happen to their applications, so our voices and displeasure rise and are heard... it will be too late once the changes have become law.

Just my opinion,
Cam