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[richard1234]

Not at all!
If a traveler claims to be a permanent resident at the POE, the officer has the responsibility to investigate whether their claim is true, even in the absence of ANY documents (for instance if they have lost their CoPR and PR card at the same time in an accident or theft etc.) If it is established, based on the documents the traveler presents and/or their investigation (=on their database) that they are a permanent resident, they must be allowed in the country. The only exception is when the traveler needs to be arrested because they can pose an imminent threat to the security of Canada or they have committed a crime that warrants their immediate detention, which I'm sure doesn't apply to your case

Also note that the enforcement operational manual of CIC/CBSA lists the CoPR as a "satisfactory" indicator of PR status for POE examination purposes.

I don't understand again. If there is a easy way, then why to make things so complicated. And what is the point of taking headache for doing something which makes life worried.

 

[gavin_cic]

I tend to agree with cantaloupe since his/her theory makes sense.

PR cards or travel documents are used to facilitate border service officers searching corresponding records of travelers in the database. These records, not documents on hands, determine whether an officer should let one enter or not. This is more secure for Canada.

At least, calling CIC can help have the most credible answer....

Again.... cantaloupe, how can u know these details? Know someone in CIC/CBSA?

I don't understand again. If there is a easy way, then why to make things so complicated. And what is the point of taking headache for doing something which makes life worried.

 

[PhD2014]

My Passport's return package was processed ;D
Finlay after 8 months ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I hope all of you get it sooooon

 

[formal_verification]

My Passport's return package was processed ;D
Finlay after 8 months ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I hope all of you get it sooooon

When did you send passport ? or when was it received ?

 

[noc4012NOV2014]

Not at all!
If a traveler claims to be a permanent resident at the POE, the officer has the responsibility to investigate whether their claim is true, even in the absence of ANY documents (for instance if they have lost their CoPR and PR card at the same time in an accident or theft etc.) If it is established, based on the documents the traveler presents and/or their investigation (=on their database) that they are a permanent resident, they must be allowed in the country. The only exception is when the traveler needs to be arrested because they can pose an imminent threat to the security of Canada or they have committed a crime that warrants their immediate detention, which I'm sure doesn't apply to your case

Also note that the enforcement operational manual of CIC/CBSA lists the CoPR as a "satisfactory" indicator of PR status for POE examination purposes.

I tend to agree with cantaloupe since his/her theory makes sense.

PR cards or travel documents are used to facilitate border service officers searching corresponding records of travelers in the database. These records, not documents on hands, determine whether an officer should let one enter or not. This is more secure for Canada.

At least, calling CIC can help have the most credible answer....

Again.... cantaloupe, how can u know these details? Know someone in CIC/CBSA?

Wow, friends, we are having intriguing conversation here.

I see cantaloupe's point, it make sense in theory. But can you explain more in terms of why the cic claims PR card as the legit travel document when travel on commercial vehicle not landing paper even though they both can provide proof of your status?

Second, I have heard the case of denial entry as a new permanent resident without PR card. How does this happen if what cantaloupe said is true?

Also, I wondered in my case if I can apply for PR card urgent processing as a new landing immigrant. My trip to China will take place from mid August to late September, but my passport is on its way from cpc-o. I want to land ASAP so I don't have to wait for another three months to be a permeant resident. It will give me more time to deal with other procedures such as SIN number, driver's license during the summer before the school terms starts in the fall.

However, the PR card processing time is getting longer and longer, now it shows 72 calendar days for new immigrant....If I can apply a urgent processing that would be good....

Thank you for you advise.

 

[PhD2014]

I sent it on June 11th, and they received it on June 12th.

When did you send passport ? or when was it received ?

 

[Viva2014]

My Passport's return package was processed ;D
Finlay after 8 months ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I hope all of you get it sooooon

Congrats buddy

 

[cantaloupe]

How do I know? from experience + IRPA/R + operational manuals. For reference on this particular matter, see the following:

Enforcement Operational Manual 4, Port of Entry Examinations, section 11 p.35-40. Read the paragraphs under "Verifying permanent resident status" and "Establishing Permanent resident status without documents".

Note1 "without documents" means no PR card no CoPR!

Note2 CIC call centre agents aren't that knowledgeable about these details.

Note3 Do what you're comfortable with. no matter what the law says or what the regulations are, if you're scared you can just pay $50 and obtain a PRTD from Canada's consulate in the country you're visiting before you come back. They usually process travel documents pretty quickly.

Wow, friends, we are having intriguing conversation here.
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Thank you for you advise.

I tend to agree with cantaloupe since his/her theory makes sense.

PR cards or travel documents are used to facilitate border service officers searching corresponding records of travelers in the database. These records, not documents on hands, determine whether an officer should let one enter or not. This is more secure for Canada.

At least, calling CIC can help have the most credible answer....

Again.... cantaloupe, how can u know these details? Know someone in CIC/CBSA?

 

[Saph]

My Passport's return package was processed ;D
Finlay after 8 months ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I hope all of you get it sooooon

waiting to return your passport for 8 month???? :'(

 

[zhanghaizh007]

Your question is again confusing. Take everything as simple as possible. If you have already submitted your application and it is under process, then this program is for someone who INTEND TO LIVE OUTSIDE OF QUEBEC, officer might be asked you the proof. If you do not want to live in Quebec, there is no point of applying for CSQ, which you do not need.

In any case, if your application is refused, you can apply for CSQ later (before or after your study, in that case, Study FRENCH hard).

For landing, many people suggest NOT to land in Quebec with Quebec address. It is better to land out of Quebec (say Ontario). If you try to land in Quebec, officer thinks you INTEND TO LIVE IN QUEBEC, and ask for CSQ and puts you in trouble.

Hope this clears your confusion. If your application is in process, think about landing later on. It is very easy and straight forward.

Can you share your timeline? Like your application date, PER date, and other document request dates?

Yes, of course.

My application was receive on April 7th,2014
Cash out on 25th, April
Per on April 29th,2014
Me on June 9th,2015
current status: in process
Signal applicant, RA+ work experience from China
My case is processed in China.

 

[gavin_cic]

Impressive!!

How do I know? from experience + IRPA/R + operational manuals. For reference on this particular matter, see the following:

Enforcement Operational Manual 4, Port of Entry Examinations, section 11 p.35-40. Read the paragraphs under "Verifying permanent resident status" and "Establishing Permanent resident status without documents".

Note1 "without documents" means no PR card no CoPR!

Note2 CIC call centre agents aren't that knowledgeable about these details.

Note3 Do what you're comfortable with. no matter what the law says or what the regulations are, if you're scared you can just pay $50 and obtain a PRTD from Canada's consulate in the country you're visiting before you come back. They usually process travel documents pretty quickly.

 

[noc4012NOV2014]

How do I know? from experience + IRPA/R + operational manuals. For reference on this particular matter, see the following:

Enforcement Operational Manual 4, Port of Entry Examinations, section 11 p.35-40. Read the paragraphs under "Verifying permanent resident status" and "Establishing Permanent resident status without documents".

Note1 "without documents" means no PR card no CoPR!

Note2 CIC call centre agents aren't that knowledgeable about these details.

Note3 Do what you're comfortable with. no matter what the law says or what the regulations are, if you're scared you can just pay $50 and obtain a PRTD from Canada's consulate in the country you're visiting before you come back. They usually process travel documents pretty quickly.

Thank you! I read the document and get much clearer idea.
If you are a pr yet don't have a valid travel document, you may be denied to board on the commercial vehicle. But according to the law you are able to get into the country at the boarder. Interesting.

 

[PhD2014]

No, I applied 8 months ago.

waiting to return your passport for 8 month???? :'(

 

[formal_verification]

No, I applied 8 months ago.

Did you already received passport back ?

 

[PhD2014]

Yes I got my passport and COPR yesterday ;D

Did you already received passport back ?