Answering EE EOI question "when did you become qualified to do this job?"

[Bloodrose]

This kind of relates to http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/postqualification-work-experience-t453330.0.html but I am just looking for some further clarification.

I am starting to complete the EOI form after recently passing IELTS however I have come across a slight hurdle.

One of the questions is: "when did you become qualified to do this job?"

The NOC under which I am claiming both Canadian and overseas experience stipulates the following requirements:

Employment requirements

Completion of a college program in computer science, computer programming or network administration is usually required.
College or other courses in computer programming or network administration are usually required.
Certification or training provided by software vendors may be required by some employers.


I earned my computer science degree last year after studying part-time over a number of years. However I originally started working in this profession after earning vendor certifications.

Therefore would the date when I became qualified be the date on which I earned my first certification? Tbh I'm not sure how to claim or prove certifications since so far I have only started the WES accreditation process for my degree.

TIA.

 

[xpressentry]

My noc code begins with 0 and that is a managerial occupation. I had to work my way up from a junior role to a manager. i put the date of my first day of my job as a manager.

sometimes if it is a professional degree and professional job, it could be your graduation date as from that day onwards you were qualified to do the job.

 

[Bloodrose]

My noc code begins with 0 and that is a managerial occupation. I had to work my way up from a junior role to a manager. i put the date of my first day of my job as a manager.

sometimes if it is a professional degree and professional job, it could be your graduation date as from that day onwards you were qualified to do the job.

And that's the thing, the language used by the Canadian government is vague here. That could be a positive or a negative depending upon how you look at it. E.g. for your NOC code the only solid pre-requisite seems to be "several years of experience in the food service sector, including supervisory experience, are required". When it comes to educational requirements, they use the words "is usually required".

That actually makes sense because my own partner is a sous chef and has no formal education in that sector whatsoever. Likewise, unless it's a graduate role, qualifications to work in IT are usually either based on past work experience or industry certifications.

 

[xpressentry]

And that's the thing, the language used by the Canadian government is vague here. That could be a positive or a negative depending upon how you look at it. E.g. for your NOC code the only solid pre-requisite seems to be "several years of experience in the food service sector, including supervisory experience, are required". When it comes to educational requirements, they use the words "is usually required".

That actually makes sense because my own partner is a sous chef and has no formal education in that sector whatsoever. Likewise, unless it's a graduate role, qualifications to work in IT are usually either based on past work experience or industry certifications.

I was a supervisor before I became a manager. Since the noc is 0631 and not the supervisory one which is A or B im not sure, I disregarded the supervisory bit of being "qualified". They are so vague that I did not want them to say that the job title is manager and the noc is 0 so you are rejected.

 

[Bloodrose]

I was a supervisor before I became a manager. Since the noc is 0631 and not the supervisory one which is A or B im not sure, I disregarded the supervisory bit of being "qualified". They are so vague that I did not want them to say that the job title is manager and the noc is 0 so you are rejected.

Yeah I understand what you mean. If you are declaring employment as a lawyer, a teacher or a doctor then obviously there are pre-defined entry paths to those areas of work and requirements are pretty much set in stone. For most other jobs though the line tends to be blurred and it usually up to an employer to decide whether or not an applicant is 'qualified'.

I think in my case, particularly since the NOC specification includes reference to vendor certifications and training courses, I might just go from the date that I earned my first certification and then provide a copy of that certificate with the application. I'm not sure what else I really can do tbh.