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trinityrsc

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Hi,

I really appreciate if someone can help advise me here.

My wife's (main applicant) Uncle is a citizen of Canada but unfortunately he has lost his birth certificate (he is 80 years old). He still has a secondary school leaving certificate which states his name, date of birth and father's name. My wife's father (i.e. Uncle's brother) has a tattered birth certificate (I haven't seen the condition yet), and also has his marriage certificate which states his name, date of birth and father's name. The father's name in both her Uncle's school leaving certificate and her dad's marriage certificate matches.

My questions are:

1. Will her Uncle's school leaving certificate and my father-in-law's marriage certificate alone be sufficient in proving that they have the same father? (Assuming that my father-in-law's birth certificate is damaged beyond recognition)
2. If not, what kind of affidavits do I need - Is the affidavit meant to confirm the uncle's particulars i.e. name, date of birth, father's name, or is it essentially to declare that both her Uncle and Dad are brothers?
3. Who is eligible to swear on the affidavit:
- Can her Uncle and/or her father submit an affidavit to declare their relationship or birth details? Or
- Can my wife and/or her cousin (i.e. Uncle's daughter) submit an affidavit to declare their fathers' relationship? Or
- Can my Wife's aunt (younger sister of Uncle and Dad) submit an affidavit to testify their relationship?
4. Does my wife also need another affidavit to declare that her uncle's birth certificate is not available? If so, can she do the affidavit or does it need to be her Uncle himself? Or can she just simply explain that the birth certificate is not available in her application cover letter?

Thanks in advance - this will be very helpful for me and as a reference for future applicants who have similar issues.
 
Hi


trinityrsc said:
Hi,

I really appreciate if someone can help advise me here.

My wife's (main applicant) Uncle is a citizen of Canada but unfortunately he has lost his birth certificate (he is 80 years old). He still has a secondary school leaving certificate which states his name, date of birth and father's name. My wife's father (i.e. Uncle's brother) has a tattered birth certificate (I haven't seen the condition yet), and also has his marriage certificate which states his name, date of birth and father's name. The father's name in both her Uncle's school leaving certificate and her dad's marriage certificate matches.

My questions are:

1. Will her Uncle's school leaving certificate and my father-in-law's marriage certificate alone be sufficient in proving that they have the same father? (Assuming that my father-in-law's birth certificate is damaged beyond recognition)
2. If not, what kind of affidavits do I need - Is the affidavit meant to confirm the uncle's particulars i.e. name, date of birth, father's name, or is it essentially to declare that both her Uncle and Dad are brothers?
3. Who is eligible to swear on the affidavit:
- Can her Uncle and/or her father submit an affidavit to declare their relationship or birth details? Or
- Can my wife and/or her cousin (i.e. Uncle's daughter) submit an affidavit to declare their fathers' relationship? Or
- Can my Wife's aunt (younger sister of Uncle and Dad) submit an affidavit to testify their relationship?
4. Does my wife also need another affidavit to declare that her uncle's birth certificate is not available? If so, can she do the affidavit or does it need to be her Uncle himself? Or can she just simply explain that the birth certificate is not available in her application cover letter?

Thanks in advance - this will be very helpful for me and as a reference for future applicants who have similar issues.

1. The School leaving certificate and the birth certificate are all you need, and of course your wife's birth certificate to show the relationship. You don't need affidavits, the documents speak for themselves.
 
Thanks.

It looks like my father-in-law has also lost his birth certificate! Can the marriage certificate be sufficient as a substitute? It has his name, date of birth and father's name on it as well.
 
you can get an affadavit or court order confirming the same.

Also driving licencse also hv father's name and even passports ....

so your wife's uncle can present his canadian passport and your father in law can present his passport, confirming they had the same father.

there are multiple government proof's which has father's name ... you don't need to worry...


but if you are looking for 5 extra points in FSW in adaptability section then you have to collect a lot of documents from your wife's uncle ... like -

1- credit card and bank statements
2 - utility bills
3 - residential proof
4 - tax returns

and may be couple of more things .. which you can check in document checklist.
 
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C!C said:
you can get an affadavit or court order confirming the same.

Also driving licencse also hv father's name and even passports ....

so your wife's uncle can present his canadian passport and your father in law can present his passport, confirming they had the same father.

there are multiple government proof's which has father's name ... you don't need to worry...


but if you are looking for 5 extra points in FSW in adaptability section then you have to collect a lot of documents from your wife's uncle ... like -

1- credit card and bank statements
2 - utility bills
3 - residential proof
4 - tax returns

and may be couple of more things .. which you can check in document checklist.

1. CIC doesn't accept affidavits, nor passports, (by the way Canadian passports don't have parents names on them) A drivers license proves nothing.
2. If the OP is in India, 10th certificate showing parents names is acceptable. The uncle would require the same. If you can't prove it then CIC won't give you the 5 points.
3. Here is what the Federal Court has to say: http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/61173/index.do?r=AAAAAQAbcmVsYXRpb25zaGlwICsgYWRhcHRpYmlsaXR5AAAAAAE
 
PMM said:
Hi


1. CIC doesn't accept affidavits, nor passports, (by the way Canadian passports don't have parents names on them) A drivers license proves nothing.
2. If the OP is in India, 10th certificate showing parents names is acceptable. The uncle would require the same. If you can't prove it then CIC won't give you the 5 points.
3. Here is what the Federal Court has to say: http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/61173/index.do?r=AAAAAQAbcmVsYXRpb25zaGlwICsgYWRhcHRpYmlsaXR5AAAAAAE

Thanks for clarifying.
 
PMM said:
Hi


1. CIC doesn't accept affidavits, nor passports, (by the way Canadian passports don't have parents names on them) A drivers license proves nothing.
2. If the OP is in India, 10th certificate showing parents names is acceptable. The uncle would require the same. If you can't prove it then CIC won't give you the 5 points.
3. Here is what the Federal Court has to say: http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/61173/index.do?r=AAAAAQAbcmVsYXRpb25zaGlwICsgYWRhcHRpYmlsaXR5AAAAAAE

Dear PMM,

I saw a lot of posts of yours in the forum you are very helpful for the people. I have few doubts about my adaptability points to my brother.

2 days back I got my PR through Nova Scotia PNP planning to go Halifax next week.My brother applying for PR through Express Entry but
he is short of 2 points.I want to sponsor him to get my adaptability points.So my queries are:

1)after moving to Halifax can I sponsor him?with showing my relation ship proof
2)do I need to stay in Canada how many months to sponsor him?
3)after getting job in Halifax I need to show pay slips and also show tax assessment?

could you please help me in this matter ,thx for your valuable help.
 
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stalincanada said:
Dear PMM,

I saw a lot of posts of yours in the forum you are very helpful for the people. I have few doubts about my adaptability points to my brother.

2 days back I got my PR through Nova Scotia PNP planning to go Halifax next week.My brother applying for PR through Express Entry but
he is short of 2 points.I want to sponsor him to get my adaptability points.So my queries are:

1)after moving to Halifax can I sponsor him?with showing my relation ship proof
2)do I need to stay in Canada how many months to sponsor him?
3)after getting job in Halifax I need to show pay slips and also show tax assessment?

could you please help me in this matter ,thx for your valuable help.

1. No, there is no sponsorship for brothers in the Nova Scotia PNP scheme.
2/3 See 1

He would have to apply on his own through Express Entry.