A few basic quick Common Law Sponsorship questions.

[KyleT6747]

Do you sees any problem with just apply to extend a visitor visa Benjis?

I am trying to fly home right now to visit family, so what I might do if I do go outland is wait until my working holiday is about to expire, fly home for a month, and when I get back I will be on a visitor visa. That will give me 6 months.

Or I can just apply to change my status to visitor. Whatever works. Unfortunately no matter what route I chose, I will not be able to work (I guess?? Not seeing many options). So if it's faster to go Outland then that's what I will do I guess. I really just want to be able to support myself while I'm here. So whichever visa can get me there faster is better for me. I don't mind waiting a little longer for PR if it means I can get my OWP faster.

But what you guys are telling me it's going to take about the same amount of time for a OWP applied inland, or a PR applied outland. When I am a PR I can get a social insurance # and things, and get to work?

Do you see any problems applying while as visitor status in Canada? If I can do this I will not feel so "pushed". I guess I can apply for Inland and Outland while on a visitor visa. If this is true then I have more time then I thought.

My big push was to apply for my PR and OWP before my Working holiday expired (because the CIC agent told me thats what I needed to do) but I am seeing that it doesn't really matter correct?

 

[benjis_monikuss]

If you go outland you DO want to keep your status. I had WHP for 3 years. My first one lasted for 2 years, when that ran out I went on a holiday to Denver, then came back and got another 2 year WHP (I had to reapply, not extend, for a completely new WHP, don't believe there's any way to extend it). So if you can't get another of your IEC visas then just make sure you keep some form of status. Leaving when your current visa expires then coming back for a visit visa sounds like a good idea. That gives you roughly 8 months if you were to submit your application right away. You mentioned you were looking at submitting it in April, but if you go outland you don't need to worry about your visit home impacting your visa in any way so you can always have that in with CIC, go home when your visa expires, come back as visitor and you'll be all good. If you need more time, visitor visas are apparently pretty easy to extend, something about applying online within 30 days of your status expiring, but I never had to get any kind of visitor visa as I was (and still am till Dec) covered by my WHP.

By no means should you rush your application. You want to make sure it's perfect, even just one missed signature or date can get your whole application sent pack to you untouched by CIC then you have to resubmit and get into a new queue.

Its true, applying outland you have just as much chance of getting your full PR in the same time that you would get your AIP inland which would allow you to apply for an OWP. There was a new rule bought into effect(?) stating that OWP can no longer be submitted WITH the PR app it has to be submitted once AIP is attained, so you could potentially be waiting even longer to be able to work via inland. If all went well outland you could have full PR in 8-10 months allowing you not only to work but to get your SIN, medical etc.

 

[Ponga]

Do you have good solid proof of your common-law relationship? Most importantly, proof that you have lived with your partner for 12 consecutive months? If so, taking a short holiday shouldn't be an issue, but the longer a couple is separated, the greater the risk of it causing problems, as it could been seen as in interruption of the relationship (since you would not be cohabitating).

This is more important than deciding between Inland versus Outland.

With an Outland application, losing your status simply means that you have to leave Canada for the duration of the process ( or leave and try to re-enter). This does not impact your application as it continues to be processed.

With an Inland application, you do not need to have legal status to apply, BUT...this does not prevent a person from being removed by CBSA (the `other' arm of CIC, in essence). If a person is removed, their Inland application is toast...burnt toast without butter!!!!

 

[benjis_monikuss]

Do you have good solid proof of your common-law relationship? Most importantly, proof that you have lived with your partner for 12 consecutive months? If so, taking a short holiday shouldn't be an issue, but the longer a couple is separated, the greater the risk of it causing problems, as it could been seen as in interruption of the relationship (since you would not be cohabitating).

This is more important than deciding between Inland versus Outland.

With an Outland application, losing your status simply means that you have to leave Canada for the duration of the process ( or leave and try to re-enter). This does not impact your application as it continues to be processed.

With an Inland application, you do not need to have legal status to apply, BUT...this does not prevent a person from being removed by CBSA (the `other' arm of CIC, in essence). If a person is removed, their Inland application is toast...burnt toast without butter!!!!

This!

I should mention I was only in Denver for 2 weeks. And your proof of cohab and CL is vital! Quality over quantity. You want to provide things that don't need questioning. Joint lease, bank account in both names, anything naming each other as beneficiaries, stat decs from friends/ family about relationship, call/ chat logs, utilities and bills in both names, mail being sent to the same address etc. The stronger your case is the less likely you would be called back to Sweden for an interview. Common-law suffers more scrutiny than spousal so you really want your package to highlight these things. Answer the questions on your forms as fully as possible; even if that means that you need to have an extra page of additional answers for every form. The least amount of gaps you leave in the story of your relationship the smaller doubt you leave in the mind of your visa officer.

 

[KyleT6747]

I am confident in my proof. We have been living together for more then 12 months and have proof for 12 months at the least.

It is really to bad that the working holiday cannot be extended by implied status. I have a friend who was from the UK who was on a working holiday, then applied for inland PR and is still working even though their WHV expired. They told me they are on the OWP but they have not got any paperwork on it, and their application has only been processing for like 5 or 6 months, so something is wrong I think.

So you guys really feel my best option, since I cannot extend my WHV or obtain another visa, other then getting some one to sponsor me with the LMO and get a closed work permit (which I can do even if I have visitor status) is to:

Apply for Outland PR and have all my paperwork up front. Leave the country and come back when my WHV is done or apply to switch to visitor visa before hand. This will allow me to travel as I please, as well as be processed slightly faster.

If I have this correct and no one sees an issue with it, then I guess I have a plan.

Re-entry to Canada while having an outland PR processing should not be an issue correct? My entry will not be denied because of a outland PR application (I see no real reason why is would be)

So you guys feel I have this straight and is the best move for me? THANKS!!

 

[canuck_in_uk]

It is really to bad that the working holiday cannot be extended by implied status. I have a friend who was from the UK who was on a working holiday, then applied for inland PR and is still working even though their WHV expired. They told me they are on the OWP but they have not got any paperwork on it, and their application has only been processing for like 5 or 6 months, so something is wrong I think.

Apply for Outland PR and have all my paperwork up front. Leave the country and come back when my WHV is done or apply to switch to visitor visa before hand. This will allow me to travel as I please, as well as be processed slightly faster.

Re-entry to Canada while having an outland PR processing should not be an issue correct? My entry will not be denied because of a outland PR application (I see no real reason why is would be)

There have been people who continued working after the holiday visa expired believing they had Implied Status only to be told by CIC later on that they were working illegally.

Did you look into the Young Professionals IEC visa?

Don't apply for the change of status and then leave Canada, as that will essentially cancel the status change app. Either leave and re-enter on your IEC, then apply for the change of status prior to the IEC expiring, or leave and come back after your IEC expires, in which case you will enter as a visitor and won't need to apply for the change of status.

Re-entering with a PR app in process is a fairly easy process. Carry proof of the PR app (sponsor approval if you have it by then or the fee receipt). If you're entering as a visitor, also carry proof of funds to show that you can support yourself. Make sure you don't use the word "moving"; you are only visiting with your partner while the app processes.

 

[KyleT6747]

I do not qualify for another IEC visa unfortunately so that's off the table. And I understand about leaving and re-entering. I will cary proof (my fee receipt) with me. I should not tell them if they ask that I am here as a visitor until my PR gets approved?

 

[KyleT6747]

This is the outside of canada sponsorship I should apply for then?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

Just worried because it says "applying from outside of canada". Just seems backwards to me is all.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I should not tell them if they ask that I am here as a visitor until my PR gets approved?

You tell them you are visiting while the app processes. Do not tell them you are moving.

This is the outside of canada sponsorship I should apply for then?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

Just worried because it says "applying from outside of canada". Just seems backwards to me is all.

Yes, that's correct. Ignore the being outside Canada part.

 

[Graihn]

This is the outside of canada sponsorship I should apply for then?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

Just worried because it says "applying from outside of canada". Just seems backwards to me is all.

Hey Kyle,
fellow svennebanan här!

I was in Canada on a working holiday visa, and when that expired I applied for a co-op visa. Difference between WH visa and co-op is that the co-op is locked to one company, and you need a job offer.
So I would suggest you call the canadian embassy in sthlm, and have them direct you to the place where u find the forms online.
If you are currently employed, talk to your employer. All you would need is a job offer.

It usually takes abt a week to get it!

So do this, when u get ur email you can cross the border and come back to be legally working for another year. I suggest you do this when u apply for PR, or before, as you can order to police certificates for a reduced cost.

Any more help needed abt Swedish stuff, let me know

Tjabba!

Oh! And definitely apply Outland even tho u are in Canada, you will have ur PR 4 months before ur co op visa expires!
And, hopefully you will still be between 18-30 by the time u apy for the co op

 

[KyleT6747]

Thanks for the advice. I'm actually working at a ski hill right now and they close down on april 7th, and then I was planning on going home to see my family, then I guess coming back after my WHV expires on the 11th of may. Can I still get a closed work permit while here as a visitor? I don't see why not, I'd just have to change my status to worker if I did find a job.

Not sure how easy it will be to get someone to give me a job offer, if they have to go to the LMO and such, it sounds like a lot of messing around when they could just hire a local.

How did you get reduced cost police checks? I need one from Sweden and was just going to pay they full cost of 50 bucks or whatever it is.

 

[Graihn]

Thanks for the advice. I'm actually working at a ski hill right now and they close down on april 7th, and then I was planning on going home to see my family, then I guess coming back after my WHV expires on the 11th of may. Can I still get a closed work permit while here as a visitor? I don't see why not, I'd just have to change my status to worker if I did find a job.

Not sure how easy it will be to get someone to give me a job offer, if they have to go to the LMO and such, it sounds like a lot of messing around when they could just hire a local.

How did you get reduced cost police checks? I need one from Sweden and was just going to pay they full cost of 50 bucks or whatever it is.

One for 200, if you opt to get two u pay 380, or less, not sure.

Co-op has nothing to do with LMO. If someone offers you a job, u can work there within two weeks. The embassy will send u an email with ur code you show at the border
Two weeks (co-op) instead of 3 months (LMO) would benefit you in the job hunt