Hello everyone,
I am aware that some people will say this post is superfluous or unhelpful, however, take it from someone who went through this whole PR process, from setting up an EE profile all the way to landing, and who spent many hours on this forum.
I am not sure if anyone will listen to this, but I thought, I'd give it a try.
This forum is supposed to help people, to answer questions, to share know-how. How does this happen: People who went through the process share their experience with people who are new to the process and have questions.
As said, I am done with the process. I would love to help people out with their questions, but truth be told: You're not making it easy.
From a perspective of someone who wants to help, here is a list of things that this forum doesn't need:
Another thread that guesses the time or score of the next ITA round
No. One. On. This. Forum. Can have any idea what the next score is going to be. Threads like "Let's guess the score of the next round" or "When do you think the score will fall below XYZ points?" are helping no one and inherently pointless. They either give forum members false hope or they unnecessarily demotivate them. The actual helpful information in these posts can be condensed to this:
Check if you can improve your score somehow and do it. Look at past scores to get an idea. And most importantly: If you take the points of the last two draws, add them and take the square root, then divide it by the number of CEC applicants and multiply it with the current FSW point threshold, you get a number. But that number contains no information whatsoever.
If the 20th draw is due but hasn't happened yet and you post a thread with the title "20th draw! 445 points!" (containing another guess), I hope you're happy that you gave several forum users a heart attack and then a huge bucket of disappointment. Don't do it.
Another person that walks through random threads and asks every single poster "What is your timeline?"
Individual timelines are of no help. They don't give you any information. The only useful source are these Excel/Google spreadsheets of candidate's timelines (big shoutout to those who administer them, great work!). They give you a big picture. Believe it or not, all our cases are individual. It's like asking one person how old they are to get an idea how old everyone is. If you see that fifty people had to wait on average for X days from Decision Made to PPR, that is valuable information. If you see that John Doe had to wait for only 12 hours to get his PPR, that only demotivates people or makes them nervous if they don't get a PPR within 12 hours as well.
Use one thread to collect the timelines and organize spreadsheets. Don't flood the forum with timeline requests. And no, just because someone else applied from the same postal code as you and happens to have a passport that was issued on a prime numbered day JUST LIKE YOURS, that doesn't mean he will get his AOR on the same day as you do.
People with hearsay "insider info"
If someone posts of some insider information saying that the ITA score will go down/CIC will change the rules tomorrow, that has one of the following reasons:
- The author of the post is naive
- The author of the post wants attention
- The author of the post is intentionally lying (for whatever reason)
If someone posts that he heard from his lawyer that some colleague of his talked to someone who once was in the same starbucks with a CIC employee and he said that the ITA score is going down soon: Ignore it. If the EE program is getting changed, you will read it in publications of the Government of Canada, on political party websites (right now: The Liberal Party) or - just before implementation - on the CIC website.
Another thread that connects people with a constructed "connection"
There definitely is very useful threads, like "People applying from country X, connect here" (since you have the same paperwork struggles) or "People who prepare an Ontario nomination application, connect here" (since you have similar hoops to jump). But:
Please don't make another thread like "People who's score is between 487 and 492 and had to wait for more than 23 days between application and AOR, connect here". This (falsely) suggests random correlations of different facts that you just made up. It'll turn into another thread that tries to guess the secret scheme/strategy that CIC applies to choose which applications get processed first. If your application goes some days slower than someone elses, most likely your CIC agent is on vacation or actually is just a slow worker. I highly doubt that he decided: "Oh, look, these two applications have the same score range, I'm gonna put them in the same pile, right next to the tall-people-pile".
Closing remarks
I'm sorry if this post sounds a bit like a rant. But I thought I'd give it a try before I just leave this forum instead of helping people out. I think I have a decent amount of knowledge to share. I haven't made that many posts but the ones I made seemed to be helpful. But I don't think I'll keep up with this if I continue to have to scroll through all these pointless "crystal ball gazing" posts again, and again, and again.
I am aware that some people will say this post is superfluous or unhelpful, however, take it from someone who went through this whole PR process, from setting up an EE profile all the way to landing, and who spent many hours on this forum.
I am not sure if anyone will listen to this, but I thought, I'd give it a try.
This forum is supposed to help people, to answer questions, to share know-how. How does this happen: People who went through the process share their experience with people who are new to the process and have questions.
As said, I am done with the process. I would love to help people out with their questions, but truth be told: You're not making it easy.
From a perspective of someone who wants to help, here is a list of things that this forum doesn't need:
Another thread that guesses the time or score of the next ITA round
No. One. On. This. Forum. Can have any idea what the next score is going to be. Threads like "Let's guess the score of the next round" or "When do you think the score will fall below XYZ points?" are helping no one and inherently pointless. They either give forum members false hope or they unnecessarily demotivate them. The actual helpful information in these posts can be condensed to this:
Check if you can improve your score somehow and do it. Look at past scores to get an idea. And most importantly: If you take the points of the last two draws, add them and take the square root, then divide it by the number of CEC applicants and multiply it with the current FSW point threshold, you get a number. But that number contains no information whatsoever.
If the 20th draw is due but hasn't happened yet and you post a thread with the title "20th draw! 445 points!" (containing another guess), I hope you're happy that you gave several forum users a heart attack and then a huge bucket of disappointment. Don't do it.
Another person that walks through random threads and asks every single poster "What is your timeline?"
Individual timelines are of no help. They don't give you any information. The only useful source are these Excel/Google spreadsheets of candidate's timelines (big shoutout to those who administer them, great work!). They give you a big picture. Believe it or not, all our cases are individual. It's like asking one person how old they are to get an idea how old everyone is. If you see that fifty people had to wait on average for X days from Decision Made to PPR, that is valuable information. If you see that John Doe had to wait for only 12 hours to get his PPR, that only demotivates people or makes them nervous if they don't get a PPR within 12 hours as well.
Use one thread to collect the timelines and organize spreadsheets. Don't flood the forum with timeline requests. And no, just because someone else applied from the same postal code as you and happens to have a passport that was issued on a prime numbered day JUST LIKE YOURS, that doesn't mean he will get his AOR on the same day as you do.
People with hearsay "insider info"
If someone posts of some insider information saying that the ITA score will go down/CIC will change the rules tomorrow, that has one of the following reasons:
- The author of the post is naive
- The author of the post wants attention
- The author of the post is intentionally lying (for whatever reason)
If someone posts that he heard from his lawyer that some colleague of his talked to someone who once was in the same starbucks with a CIC employee and he said that the ITA score is going down soon: Ignore it. If the EE program is getting changed, you will read it in publications of the Government of Canada, on political party websites (right now: The Liberal Party) or - just before implementation - on the CIC website.
Another thread that connects people with a constructed "connection"
There definitely is very useful threads, like "People applying from country X, connect here" (since you have the same paperwork struggles) or "People who prepare an Ontario nomination application, connect here" (since you have similar hoops to jump). But:
Please don't make another thread like "People who's score is between 487 and 492 and had to wait for more than 23 days between application and AOR, connect here". This (falsely) suggests random correlations of different facts that you just made up. It'll turn into another thread that tries to guess the secret scheme/strategy that CIC applies to choose which applications get processed first. If your application goes some days slower than someone elses, most likely your CIC agent is on vacation or actually is just a slow worker. I highly doubt that he decided: "Oh, look, these two applications have the same score range, I'm gonna put them in the same pile, right next to the tall-people-pile".
Closing remarks
I'm sorry if this post sounds a bit like a rant. But I thought I'd give it a try before I just leave this forum instead of helping people out. I think I have a decent amount of knowledge to share. I haven't made that many posts but the ones I made seemed to be helpful. But I don't think I'll keep up with this if I continue to have to scroll through all these pointless "crystal ball gazing" posts again, and again, and again.
