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2014 Parent Sponsorship Application 7000+ received, 2500 opened, 1300 returned

canvis2006

Champion Member
Dec 27, 2009
2,382
309
Toronto
Visa Office......
Paris, France
NOC Code......
FC4 - PGP
App. Filed.......
May 2009
Doc's Request.
March 2012
File Transfer...
Jan. 2013
Med's Request
May 2013
Passport Req..
July 2013
VISA ISSUED...
August 2013
LANDED..........
Sept 2013
bluecollar said:
Thanks, you are generally right. The problem is that the page was brand new when I have accessed for the first time and as such my browser did not have any cached info. It was simply an initial error of their webmaster with respect to the links. Anyway, at this point, I cannot change anything. I mean, the file was re-mailed one hour later after being received (because the content of new and old versions of the form is absolutely identical, I believe that only the QR info at the end is coded differently - this why old QR readers do not work and this is probably how they have caught it) but I do not hold any hopes of catching this year's 5000 train. Anyway, this is just my experience, but I am sure that everyone of the 1300 applicants who had their files returned have similar stories (perhaps some identical with mine), plus other even more absurd stories. Oh, Canada!
You should've spoken to the call centre and had their supervisor to ask CPC-M to wait for your re-submission as it was their fault.
 

screech339

VIP Member
Apr 2, 2013
7,884
551
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-08-2012
AOR Received.
20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
As much as it is probably CIC's fault, they put the onus on the sponsor in making sure they have the latest revision forms.

I wouldn't be surprised that come Jan 2015, new forms are updated Jan 1st or Jan 2nd. May I ask which forms got updated in this year, compare to Dec forms? Just curious here.

Screech339
 

Hazael

Newbie
Feb 3, 2014
1
0
Rob_TO said:
not submitting NOA for 2010/11/12
Question here, I'm taking a look to see if I can actually sponsor my parents. It happens that I arrived to Canada in 2011. Therefore, I don't have a NOC for 2010.
Can I still apply to be their sponsor?

Thanks,
-Haz
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Hazael said:
Question here, I'm taking a look to see if I can actually sponsor my parents. It happens that I arrived to Canada in 2011. Therefore, I don't have a NOC for 2010.
Can I still apply to be their sponsor?
Not this year.
If your 2011 income meets the 2011 LICO required for parents, then with 2011, 2012 and 2013 NOAs you could apply in January 2015.
 

screech339

VIP Member
Apr 2, 2013
7,884
551
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-08-2012
AOR Received.
20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
Hazael said:
Question here, I'm taking a look to see if I can actually sponsor my parents. It happens that I arrived to Canada in 2011. Therefore, I don't have a NOC for 2010.
Can I still apply to be their sponsor?

Thanks,
-Haz
If you don't have NOA for 2010, you can't apply this year. You can apply in jan 2015, with 2011, 2012, 2013 NOAs.
 

screech339

VIP Member
Apr 2, 2013
7,884
551
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-08-2012
AOR Received.
20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
There is a CIC news release that the 5000 cap has been reached.
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,304
2,166
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2014/2014-02-03a.asp
 

canvis2006

Champion Member
Dec 27, 2009
2,382
309
Toronto
Visa Office......
Paris, France
NOC Code......
FC4 - PGP
App. Filed.......
May 2009
Doc's Request.
March 2012
File Transfer...
Jan. 2013
Med's Request
May 2013
Passport Req..
July 2013
VISA ISSUED...
August 2013
LANDED..........
Sept 2013
still took them a month eh......not bad....
 

screech339

VIP Member
Apr 2, 2013
7,884
551
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-08-2012
AOR Received.
20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
canvis2006 said:
still took them a month eh......not bad....
May have took them a month to go through the applications up to first 2 weeks of submittal before it reached the limit.
 

BLT123

Full Member
Oct 1, 2012
26
2
bluecollar said:
Thanks, you are generally right. The problem is that the page was brand new when I have accessed for the first time and as such my browser did not have any cached info. It was simply an initial error of their webmaster with respect to the links. Anyway, at this point, I cannot change anything. I mean, the file was re-mailed one hour later after being received (because the content of new and old versions of the form is absolutely identical, I believe that only the QR info at the end is coded differently - this why old QR readers do not work and this is probably how they have caught it) but I do not hold any hopes of catching this year's 5000 train. Anyway, this is just my experience, but I am sure that everyone of the 1300 applicants who had their files returned have similar stories (perhaps some identical with mine), plus other even more absurd stories. Oh, Canada!
You are incorrect in thinking the only change is the QR code. In fact it is the length of the undertaking being increased to 20 years which was the reason for rejection. Compare the forms from 08-2013 to 11-2013.
 

bluecollar

Newbie
Feb 1, 2014
4
0
BLT123 said:
You are incorrect in thinking the only change is the QR code. In fact it is the length of the undertaking being increased to 20 years which was the reason for rejection. Compare the forms from 08-2013 to 11-2013.
I agree with you. What I've referred to was just the info to be filled in by the applicant on the form which is identical on both versions/revisions of the form.
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,304
2,166
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
bluecollar said:
I agree with you. What I've referred to was just the info to be filled in by the applicant on the form which is identical on both versions/revisions of the form.
You may well be correct about the information to be filled in, but this is a legal contract between you and Canada. Therefore, if they allowed an old form to pass, they would be only holding you to the previous commitment, and not the new one. This would probably stand being tested in Court. Therefore, it's mandatory that the form be rejected. They could reasonably expect the applicant to check that the form being submitted was "fit for purpose", which, in your case, it blatantly would not be.
 

bluecollar

Newbie
Feb 1, 2014
4
0
zardoz said:
You may well be correct about the information to be filled in, but this is a legal contract between you and Canada. Therefore, if they allowed an old form to pass, they would be only holding you to the previous commitment, and not the new one. This would probably stand being tested in Court. Therefore, it's mandatory that the form be rejected. They could reasonably expect the applicant to check that the form being submitted was "fit for purpose", which, in your case, it blatantly would not be.
I do not expect that an old form will pass, although - between us - that 10 (and now 20) years period does not mean much in a sense that there are (many) ways of bypassing/shortening it. Sadly enough, I know enough cases of (well above average income) couples who have sponsored their parents and 2-3 years down the road the parents have moved away by requesting (and receiving) government assistance - primarily for housing. Obviously, once you have broken the sponsorship commitment you will be unable to sponsor somebody else, but these couples have carefully planned everything down the road, in a sense they do not need to do it anymore. Back to my original story, I still do not know exactly what I've done wrong other than perhaps not realizing that the form posted by CIC in the right place was actually the wrong/old one. Anyway, it is all history now - meaning that none of these can be reversed anymore.
 

Hishman

Full Member
Jan 22, 2014
33
4
Almaty said:
Hi guys! my credit card has been charged 550$ by CIC for PGP application form, what is next?
Whats your application timeline? When were your documents received by CIC and when was your CC charged?