Came to Canada as a PR in May 6th 2022, traveled outside Canada twice, Sep 18-27th 2024 and Jan 12-20th 2025. I sent my application on May 21st as that's when the physical presence calculator told me I would be eligible and have 1095 days of physical presence, but this depends on what counts as an actual day, because on my departure days, I didn't spend the night here in Canada and left in the mornings. However, I read online that this could cause issues in applications since it makes calculating the minimum presence difficult for agents and worse case, make it more likely to be rejected. Did anyone apply with a similar experience traveling outside and applying as soon as they hit 1095 days? Any help would be appreciated!
1095 days citizenship physical presence, am I good or should I withdraw my application?
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If you are 100 percent sure you have the 1095 days then you will be approved. However since you applied with exactly 1095 days, you should expect your application will go for secondary review and take longer to process.
I applied with 1096 days and just got everything approved with oath scheduled for 15 August. I applied in late Jan, so my application definitely took longer than people applied at the same time. I also had to go in for an interview. But if you're sure about your dates I would say there is not cause to worry. For departures, as long as you leave pass midnight then the day would still count. For example, one of my flight left at 12:45 am on a Friday and that Friday still counted as a day in Canada. So if your dates are correct then I wouldn't worry.
If you want to be sure you can request the CBSA exit/entry report. I requested mine and it captured all my trips correctly. If the CBSA record matches your application entries then that should be fine. Though note that all my trips were by air, I am not sure if they would be as accurate for departures/entries by land.
If you want to be sure you can request the CBSA exit/entry report. I requested mine and it captured all my trips correctly. If the CBSA record matches your application entries then that should be fine. Though note that all my trips were by air, I am not sure if they would be as accurate for departures/entries by land.
The above from @Lavenaa is pretty much your best case scenario : a fast application that due to the absence of buffer went through minimal additional scrunity and got finalized in 6.5 months instead of maybe a couple weeks or a month earlier, which is by the way still largely under the average processing time, currently at 10 months.
While there's no discussion to be had if you think you made a mistake in your calculation (withdraw asap!), if you're 100% sure of your days, it can go different ways : easy and relatively short processing such as @Lavenaa 's, a bit longer processing, or a significant delay because IRCC is really not convinced you meet the physical presence requirement. It's too early to tell, after only 2 months.
What you can do now : triple check and quadruple check your application, and yeah, maybe ask for your CBSA report to validate that the report matches your claims, and act accordingly. It's probably good not to withdraw yet, as long as it's not 1094 or less...
While there's no discussion to be had if you think you made a mistake in your calculation (withdraw asap!), if you're 100% sure of your days, it can go different ways : easy and relatively short processing such as @Lavenaa 's, a bit longer processing, or a significant delay because IRCC is really not convinced you meet the physical presence requirement. It's too early to tell, after only 2 months.
What you can do now : triple check and quadruple check your application, and yeah, maybe ask for your CBSA report to validate that the report matches your claims, and act accordingly. It's probably good not to withdraw yet, as long as it's not 1094 or less...
Hello fellow zero buffer.
1096 here with a lot of long abroad trips and stuck in PP for the past 5 months (only thing pending). No interview or any requests so far. Frustrating to say the least. Last update was in March (Nov AoR).
Who ever reads this, apply with at least 2-4 weeks buffer. Worth the wait.
To answer your question, partial days (even a minute in Canada) count as full day presence.
1096 here with a lot of long abroad trips and stuck in PP for the past 5 months (only thing pending). No interview or any requests so far. Frustrating to say the least. Last update was in March (Nov AoR).
Who ever reads this, apply with at least 2-4 weeks buffer. Worth the wait.
To answer your question, partial days (even a minute in Canada) count as full day presence.
Oh wow, I saw some people with the bare minimum days, and still get their application processed within normal timelines. Did you try contacting IRCC?
Yep, both through phone and webforms. Always get the typical answer of "it's under process, we'll let you know if we need anything from your side."
I'm 100% confident with my submission. Have many missing exits in CBSA database for some reason though, plus have a missing entry record. So YMMV.
How many days do you have if you count in partial days? Calculator does take that into consideration so if you got 1095 then it's indeed 1095 as long as you filled in the actual travel dates (not the next day, for example).
I'm 100% confident with my submission. Have many missing exits in CBSA database for some reason though, plus have a missing entry record. So YMMV.
How many days do you have if you count in partial days? Calculator does take that into consideration so if you got 1095 then it's indeed 1095 as long as you filled in the actual travel dates (not the next day, for example).
Yeah.
And there is no shortage, none at all, of anecdotal reports from scores of qualified applicants suffering a processing time longer than the posted timeline, many who appear to be encountering additional processing to verify physical presence in particular.
The main reason for applying with a buffer is to reduce the risk of non-routine processing related to verifying physical presence. Not complicated.
Sure, IRCC recommends waiting to apply with a buffer to avoid the impact of falling short if an error is made. Remember, if short by even one day the application will fail. But even with a buffer applicants would be prudent to do all they can, practically, to be sure the travel history submitted is accurate. Credibility looms very large as a factor in determining which applications sail through the routine processing without significant delays versus those fully qualified applicants whose applications get bogged down sitting in long queues waiting for non-routine processing. Errors are instances in which the applicant fails to be an accurate reporter of the facts, and even though way shy of indicating misrepresentation that nonetheless will compromise the applicant's credibility . . . credibility, after all, is simply the extent to which an individual can be relied upon to be an accurate reporter of facts.
A buffer does not make the applicant more credible but it does significantly reduce the risk that the applicant fell short of the PP requirement. Lower risk PP is short, lower risk of additional inquiries to verify PP. Again, not complicated.
On the other hand, for those certain they meet the PP, odds are very good that eventually IRCC verifies that, so they do not need to wait to apply with a buffer. Other factors will likely influence how much risk there is that PP verification takes longer than the routine processing time. Whether to wait is a personal decision (would help if we knew more about IRCC internal processing guidelines, but we don't). So, it is up to the individual whether to hope to take the oath a month sooner by applying without a month's buffer, or to wait a month longer to reduce the risk of adding months, potentially many months more to how long it takes.
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