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so one must find an employer willing to hire "us" so we can submit an PNP application??

well, i don't think you need to take any test to proof that u can speak English. On the other hand, i was trying to post a question but can't figured it out how to do it. Can somebody tell me how, so i can start asking for info or giving info. p.s. i can read and write in English and French. so...