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  1. whiterabbit

    April 2025 Outland Spousal Sponsorship

    Thanks That's sad, but not the end of the world What I find important is that there's no concerns about our relationship which is specifically highlighted in the letter. So seems like it should be a faster process when we re-apply, given that we are effectively just addressing the issue (wrong...
  2. whiterabbit

    April 2025 Outland Spousal Sponsorship

    As expected, got a refusal letter this morning. The officer said there is no concern that the relationship is genuine, but we do not meet the definition of conjugal partners, specifically because we also mentioned that we are planning to get married (we did mention that, as well as the fact that...
  3. whiterabbit

    April 2025 Outland Spousal Sponsorship

    Yup, almost the same In our case, the second email was from IRCC NER, whatever it is (VO code?)
  4. whiterabbit

    April 2025 Outland Spousal Sponsorship

    Did you receive the acknowledgment just from IRCC? In our case, there were two of them: one from IRCC, and one directly from the VO processing the file
  5. whiterabbit

    April 2025 Outland Spousal Sponsorship

    It's been just 20 days since we submitted. I only see 3 realistic scenarios now: - we get a refusal letter and resubmit under family class after getting married in November (same package with updates of forms, new PCCs, some more explanation) - we don't get a decision before the end of November...
  6. whiterabbit

    Same sex conjugal partner PR application refused - 2nd time

    That's basically the definition of apostille. It must be issued in a country that physically issued the document, so you can only get an apostille through a consulate if you got it from that consulate (or another one in the same country). So hypothetically I could request a copy of a birth...
  7. whiterabbit

    April 2025 Outland Spousal Sponsorship

    Absolutely! I read through the forum though, and feels like that's 100% refusal for me this time with the direction "go under spousal or common-law class". Booked a legal marriage for November.
  8. whiterabbit

    Same sex conjugal partner PR application refused - 2nd time

    Yeah, we checked many options and decided to go with Georgia - the simplest by far, and, what's the most important, everything is done in a couple of days. LMAO No way I or my fiance go there to apostille birth certificates - way too dangerous as we are citizens both living in countries that...
  9. whiterabbit

    Same sex conjugal partner PR application refused - 2nd time

    If there is no refuse by this time (which I doubt honestly) - of course we will submit the update of our status. Otherwise, I am just preparing the new package of the docs (which is basically the same package with updated marital status, dates, and adding legal marriage details) to submit as...
  10. whiterabbit

    Same sex conjugal partner PR application refused - 2nd time

    What country, if you don't mind me asking? We found the one that accepts documents from our country of origin (Russia) as they are, so should not be the issue. Will fly there in November.
  11. whiterabbit

    Same sex conjugal partner PR application refused - 2nd time

    Oh man We got the PFL right away the day eligibility started according to the tracker (Sept 3), submitted the response the same day. It is aligned with what we have in the case and pretty obvious in general. The officer asked why we don't live together - we explained with both my previous and...
  12. whiterabbit

    Same sex conjugal partner PR application refused - 2nd time

    But between July and now you had an interview and some other action in the case, right?
  13. whiterabbit

    Same sex conjugal partner PR application refused - 2nd time

    Holly... I really hoped for a response within a couple of weeks to at least start preparing everything for our trip to /whatever country will let us get married/
  14. whiterabbit

    Same sex conjugal partner PR application refused - 2nd time

    It's basically a universal requirement when you get married in a country different from your country of origin as a foreigner. We both are from the same country of origin, and the docs from the country require the apostille to be recognized abroad. Going back there is not safe at all due to our...
  15. whiterabbit

    Same sex conjugal partner PR application refused - 2nd time

    Absolutely. And I'm literally flying back and forth to Europe to be able to spend at least a week together every couple of months, which is physically and mentally exhausting as hell. However, if it comes down to refuse, basically the choice here will be between a long way to potentially...
  16. whiterabbit

    Same sex conjugal partner PR application refused - 2nd time

    Btw, how long did it take to receive a refusal letter after submitting the response to PFL?
  17. whiterabbit

    Same sex conjugal partner PR application refused - 2nd time

    Not exactly at the same boat with you (and hopefully won't get there), but this is my game plan in case of refusal. We also applied as conjugal, and got PFL a week ago with something like "I don't see a barrier for you to live together for a consecutive year and apply as common-law". I sent the...
  18. whiterabbit

    April 2025 Outland Spousal Sponsorship

    Is it? I thought at this point it's just the reflection of what happened: they started reviewing eligibility, sent the PFL and received our response :) I (the sponsor) am in Ontario, GTA. So the destination city is Toronto, we're planning to move closer to DT as soon as my fiance is here
  19. whiterabbit

    March 2025- Outland Spousal Sponsorship

    Did you see all these updates in tracker or GC? Did you receive a pre-arrival after passing the eligibility? As for the PPR, not sure about now, but VOs would send them in batches before, so I assume it's a matter of days / weeks
  20. whiterabbit

    April 2025 Outland Spousal Sponsorship

    Upd. Tracker just showed the updates. Last update is shown as today (Sept 8), and in the history I can now see - eligibility changed to in progress - message about additional documents sent - our response recieved All dated as September 3 (which is true) Now both eligibility and BG...