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    What is second class citizen

    How so? You can be charged even if you didn't commit any crime. That's what trials are for. Coincidentally, this law gives the Minister the power to impose a punishment (exile) without trial. That is, if the Minister claims that he has reasons to exile you (be it misrepresentation, or conviction...
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    New baby born during my citizenship application

    I had my test three days after my baby was born. When I asked the examiner if I had to notify CIC about the baby, she told me, "Was he born in Canada? Then he is already a citizen, you don't have to inform us". Just in case, I called CIC a week later to inform them, but it was mostly an excuse...
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    do days away as temporary resident count as double?

    As others have said, the residence calculator is your friend. Absences before PR do not "count" as double, however, it is often the case that you need to wait double the number of days to make up for those absences. To illustrate why this happens, let's simplify the rule, instead of saying 3...
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    Scarborough office / timeline after test

    LOL. Talk about "applying on the way to the airport" (or in this case, swearing on the ... erm... flight out of the airport?)
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    Why would anyone /not/ say the oath?

    I'm sorry if it appeared that I was disagreeing with you. I am not. In the (hypothetical?) citizenship scenario, there would be a person willing to be bound by a signature and not by words. That is the contradiction I was trying to understand. Also, I would argue that what is binding is not the...
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    Why would anyone /not/ say the oath?

    Indeed, particularly if you are booted from the ceremony for not being sufficiently enthusiastic, as in your link. Fortunately, I didn't feel that pressure during the ceremony, until the official gestured to the woman in front of me. Or, I was able to block the scrutiny from my mind.
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    Why would anyone /not/ say the oath?

    Right. What puzzles me, though, is not that there are people not willing to say the oath. I'm puzzled by the idea that some people may have any objection to saying the oath, but would still attend the ceremony, pretend that they are saying the oath and then sign it. If I were to object to the...
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    Scarborough office / timeline after test

    I don't know if I classify as mid-march. I took the test at the beginning of march, but my spouse had to reschedule hers until the end of march. I expected that they would treat our application as if we had taken the test at the end of march. They sent us the oath invite within two weeks of her...
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    Why would anyone /not/ say the oath?

    I just had my citizenship ceremony. It was a good ceremony (not that I have anything to compare with, but at least I liked it). During the oath, I noticed that CIC personnel were looking at our faces, as if to make sure we were reciting the oath. At one point, one of them signalled to the woman...
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    Oath question: swear, affirm, or swear or affirm?

    Thank you. If the judge (or some other officer) is required to inform us of this, that's great, I can just follow her instructions. I was only vaguely aware that "swearing" had a religious meaning for some people. Thank you for the link. I think that's clear now. Btw, the "speaking points"...
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    Scarborough office / timeline after test

    I didn't record the exact dates (lazy me, I thought I had better memory), but it went like this: Application recieved: first week of october, 2014 In process: November 20-something. Recieve Line disappeared: About a week after "In process". Test invite received: Feb 13th. Test date: March 5th...
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    Oath question: swear, affirm, or swear or affirm?

    The oath reads "I swear (or affirm) ... " What does that mean? Do we have to recite "I swear or affirm"? or do we have to pick one of the words? Who picks it, the judge, the oath-taker? Is there a difference? What happens if I pick the wrong one? Am I panicking for no reason?
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    Scarborough office / timeline after test

    Finally, pink letter just arrived. Ceremony is scheduled by the end of the month (roughly 1 month after the second test date).
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    Different citizenship benefits

    Not really. For starters, not every country allows you to renounce your Citizenship. I am stuck with my first citizenship for life, and there is nothing I can do about it. If any country claims you as a citizen (say, via jus sanguinis, or via the Law of Return if you are a Jew), you are a dual...
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    Due date right before citizenship test.

    An update in case someone else finds this thread in the future. My wife was unable to attend the test (she was discharged from the hospital the day before the test). Some friends offered to come and take care of her, so I went to the test with the documents from the hospital. I told the...
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    Anyone took the test today (Mar 05, 2015) at Scarborough?

    Thanks, that puts my mind at ease. Now I just have to wait for her test, and then our oath. Exciting times for us, in more than one way.
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    Anyone took the test today (Mar 05, 2015) at Scarborough?

    Thank you! I was so sleep-deprived that I thought my felt was melting, but fortunately names and places became clear when I got the booklet. Sadly, no. I almost couldn't attend either. She was discharged from the hospital just the day before. They had to do a c-section and she was still in...
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    Anyone took the test today (Mar 05, 2015) at Scarborough?

    I took the test today. I did better than I expected even though I wasn't really feeling well at the time. According to the instructions, we were to go to the next room, where they would check our IDs and interview us to check our language skills... and after that I don't remember if there were...
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    Due date right before citizenship test.

    Thank you both for taking the time to reply. We just got a letter from the doctor, and I'm sure if she does go into labour, we can get more formal documentation. I will try to visit the Scarborough office and ask about it in person, doctor's note in hand (I couldn't reach the call centre). The...
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    Citizenship Test Preparation

    I think his question was along the lines "can I keep the phone safe (either in a locker or in my pocket)" vs "I need to leave it at home". If you use your phone to navigate to the place, you don't want to just leave it outside unattended while you write the test. If you need to go elsewhere...