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@Ponga Thank you for your reply. I am planning to travel for about 10 days only because i cannot go further than that.
Have some family commitments there.
Could you please elaborate how applying PRTD from Canada works? Does the IRCC not verify the Passport stamps or anything to confirm i am indeed outside and applying from therefore? Is there a way or a instance that you know of one can safely get PRTD from within Canada? Thanks again for your time.
Search for this thread in the Permanent Residency Obligations forum:

PRTD application submitted IN CANADA - success story​


That thread is 3 years old, so it might be worth calling IRCC and hope you reach a human that can tell you.
 
@canuck78 just by 11 Days. Moreover when i apply for PRTD, i would be waiting in those 11 Days and if the PRTD doesnt get issued within that time, i will cross the number of available days to meet RO.

Is there a way i can get PRTD before i travel outside? that way i will not get into dicey situation? Thanks for your time in replying.

Do you mean you will no longer be complaint with your RO after your vacation? Or will you have 11 day buffer when it comes to your RO when you finish your vacation? When does your 5 year period end because having such a little buffer means you really should be reserving some dates for actual emergencies. We see many people return to Canada with minimal buffer time in order to be compliant with their RO and then they either have an emergency or need to travel for work and they need to make some very difficult choices.

As mentioned there are cases where people have been able to apply for PRTD while still in Canada. The fact that you are so close to be non-compliant and you are going to be outside Canada may result in longer processing.
 
Hi, I have a query. I have two years left on my initial 5 years and I just moved to Canada. I just came to know about 730-day compliance rule. So if i need to travel in case of emergency even for a week of two outside canada, I become non-compliant. Would I have an issues when i get back. Would i be reported non compliant at the airport and a case of removal can strat?
 
Hi, I have a query. I have two years left on my initial 5 years and I just moved to Canada. I just came to know about 730-day compliance rule. So if i need to travel in case of emergency even for a week of two outside canada, I become non-compliant. Would I have an issues when i get back. Would i be reported non compliant at the airport and a case of removal can strat?
The answer is yes to both of your questions. It's too bad that you "just came to know" that there is a rolling 730 day requirement in each 5 year window to be residing in Canad to maintain PR status.

Having said that...even if you are reported (meaning that a CBSA officer created a 44(1) report that was approved by a second officer (acting as a Minister's Delegate), you would still be allowed to enter Canada to then appeal.

Or...you could be allowed to enter with `no questions asked' by CBSA, meaning no report generated.
It's impossible to predict what will actually happen.
 
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The answer is yes to both of your questions. It's too bad that you "just came to know" that there is a rolling 730 day requirement in each 5 year window to be residing in Canad to maintain PR status.

Having said that...even if you are reported (meaning that a CBSA officer created a 44(1) report that was approved by a second officer (acting as a Minister's Delegate), you would still be allowed to enter Canada to then appeal.

Or...you could be allowed to enter with `no questions asked' by CBSA, meaning no report generated.
It's impossible to predict what will actually happen.
Is it possible that I can take a job in Detroit and commute from Windsor to Detroit 2-3 days a week. My total days till the PR card expiray are 725 which would be around April 2028. Or can it be a problem while crossing border.
 
Is it possible that I can take a job in Detroit and commute from Windsor to Detroit 2-3 days a week. My total days till the PR card expiray are 725 which would be around April 2028. Or can it be a problem while crossing border.
If during this entire time you will be in compliance and never fall out of compliance when doing this, then there should not be a problem. This depends mostly on a realistic count of your days in/outside Canada and days remaining.

But if you are out of compliance: you run the risk of it getting complicated, as it is quite likely that /at some point/ they are going to check your compliance. That may not be very stable and have some risks, which could be avoided by getting employment in Canada.

Reminder, compliance is calculated the following way: count the number of days OUTSIDE Canada in the last five years (except those from before you became a PR); if the total is MORE THAN 1095, you are/will be OUT of compliance. [This is arithmetically the same as 730 days IN Canada, just easier to count esp in your situation.]

For you to project it forward - do the calcs for today, then do a simple calc of number of weeks / expected days outside Canada each week, add it up.
 
If during this entire time you will be in compliance and never fall out of compliance when doing this, then there should not be a problem. This depends mostly on a realistic count of your days in/outside Canada and days remaining.

But if you are out of compliance: you run the risk of it getting complicated, as it is quite likely that /at some point/ they are going to check your compliance. That may not be very stable and have some risks, which could be avoided by getting employment in Canada.

Reminder, compliance is calculated the following way: count the number of days OUTSIDE Canada in the last five years (except those from before you became a PR); if the total is MORE THAN 1095, you are/will be OUT of compliance. [This is arithmetically the same as 730 days IN Canada, just easier to count esp in your situation.]

For you to project it forward - do the calcs for today, then do a simple calc of number of weeks / expected days outside Canada each week, add it up.
So my PR card says PR since 1st April 2023, and the expiry is 19 April 2028. I did make soft landing 1st April. but thats more thn 5 years in total by 17 days? and im just short by 5 days till my card expiry.
 
So my PR card says PR since 1st April 2023, and the expiry is 19 April 2028. I did make soft landing 1st April. but thats more thn 5 years in total by 17 days? and im just short by 5 days till my card expiry.
I don't understand your arithmetic - but the date to do all calculations is the date from which one became a PR. Including, importantly, that only days in the most recent five years count (or from day one became a PR, whichever is more recent). Meaning, after 1 April 2028, your days from 1 April 2023 'drop out' of the calculation.

Or to reiterate: on any given day, count your days OUTSIDE Canada looking back five years (discarding any days before becoming a PR). If those days total LESS than 1095, you are in compliance.
 
Hello there,

I lost my PR card in June and I reported about it through the IRCC web form, but my PR card was found today. I do not apply to replace new card yet, but should I do it?
I would appreciate if someone can help me.

Thank you.
Since you already reported the PR card as lost to IRCC, I would not assume that the card is still valid just because you found it.
 
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Dear All,

I lost my PR card on June 2, 2026, and applied for a replacement on June 4, 2026. I am still waiting for an update.

In the meantime, I am considering travelling outside Canada and applying for a PRTD to return if my replacement card is not issued in time.

I became a PR less than five years ago. I currently have only an 11-day margin over the residency obligation. I have approximately 436 days remaining in my first five-year period and need to spend about 425 of those days in Canada to meet the 730-day requirement.

Given this situation, can I travel outside Canada and return using a PRTD while still being able to meet my residency obligation by the end of my first five years?

Any advice or personal experience would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
A PRTD is mainly a travel document that can allow a permanent resident without a valid PR card to return to Canada. It does not give you additional time toward the 730-day residency obligation.
 
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@Ponga Is it a good idea to submit a webform requesting urgent processing of my PR card application, which has now been pending for more than three months, since I need to make a short trip to India to be with my daughter for her upcoming birthday?

Would IRCC consider the emotional difficulty of being separated from my wife and young daughter for an extended period while waiting for my family’s sponsorship application to be processed? Would mentioning these circumstances strengthen my request for urgent processing, or could it potentially have a negative impact, particularly with respect to my residency obligation? Thanks.
 
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@Ponga Is it a good idea to submit a webform requesting urgent processing of my PR card application, which has now been pending for more than three months, since I need to make a short trip to India to be with my daughter for her upcoming birthday?

Would IRCC consider the emotional difficulty of being separated from my wife and young daughter for an extended period while waiting for my family’s sponsorship application to be processed? Would mentioning these circumstances strengthen my request for urgent processing, or could it potentially have a negative impact, particularly with respect to my residency obligation? Thanks.
I really have no opinion overall. It is possible it could have an effect either way, although my gut reaction is likely not a large one and my base assumption is 'probably wouldn't hurt?' (Question mark intentional - I have a low level of confidence in this response)

If you do write, suggest emphasize the intent is only a (very) short trip - implication that you will remain in compliance.

Personally wouldn't risk this for a birthday but up to you. Remind also that your spouse and child have TRVs and can join you any time, really.
 
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I really have no opinion overall. It is possible it could have an effect either way, although my gut reaction is likely not a large one and my base assumption is 'probably wouldn't hurt?' (Question mark intentional - I have a low level of confidence in this response)

If you do write, suggest emphasize the intent is only a (very) short trip - implication that you will remain in compliance.

Personally wouldn't risk this for a birthday but up to you. Remind also that your spouse and child have TRVs and can join you any time, really.
agreed . This letter is to request urgent processing of PR Card under H&C reasons.
will try and hope for the best. i cannot be without my PR card, I need to have it for some emergency travel. PRTD is not an option for me.
And, We will still use TRV since in any case, as i need to have my family join me in canada so i can remain in compliance for RO. Requesting PR card is to avoid requesting PRTD. i will keep you posted further, Thank you for all the advises so far.
 
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agreed . This letter is to request urgent processing of PR Card under H&C reasons.
will try and hope for the best. i cannot be without my PR card, I need to have it for some emergency travel. PRTD is not an option for me.
And, We will still use TRV since in any case, as i need to have my family join me in canada so i can remain in compliance for RO. Requesting PR card is to avoid requesting PRTD. i will keep you posted further, Thank you for all the advises so far.
I do not have a strong opinion overall but note a few minor things for your background (caveat that I don't consider myself an expert, and you perhaps ought to consider consulting a lawyer):
-I don't know why you've ruled out PRTD. With a history of compliance before departing and if a short visit abroad, as well as recent lengthy stays in country, you may not actually face much of a risk in applying for PRTD.
-Some cases here of PRs reporting applying for PRTD before departing and getting decisions fairly quickly. (This can be a bit controversial because the form you submit technically says you are not in Canada in order to apply - I guess some have submitted with explanations in that regard, I don't recall.)
-None of this suggests that departing and being dependent on a PRTD to get back to Canada is /desirable/ ('things can happen' and it may take longer than hoped for eg wrt work, etc). I am still in camp of stay in Canada if at all possible. But I would not go so far to say it is not an option at all or should be ruled out.

Good luck on the H&C request for issuance. I am skeptical it will work, but perhaps it will.
 
I do not have a strong opinion overall but note a few minor things for your background (caveat that I don't consider myself an expert, and you perhaps ought to consider consulting a lawyer):
-I don't know why you've ruled out PRTD. With a history of compliance before departing and if a short visit abroad, as well as recent lengthy stays in country, you may not actually face much of a risk in applying for PRTD.
-Some cases here of PRs reporting applying for PRTD before departing and getting decisions fairly quickly. (This can be a bit controversial because the form you submit technically says you are not in Canada in order to apply - I guess some have submitted with explanations in that regard, I don't recall.)
-None of this suggests that departing and being dependent on a PRTD to get back to Canada is /desirable/ ('things can happen' and it may take longer than hoped for eg wrt work, etc). I am still in camp of stay in Canada if at all possible. But I would not go so far to say it is not an option at all or should be ruled out.

Good luck on the H&C request for issuance. I am skeptical it will work, but perhaps it will.
with just 11 Days of buffer, If i apply for PRTD, i will risk my travel just waiting to get the PRTD issued.
So i ruled out applying PRTD. I have submitted the webform. Fingers crossed.
 
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