H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

[need-aip]

50-year immigration wait stuns lawyers and families, but IRCC says it's no mistake

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/otta...ilies-but-ircc-says-it-s-no-mistake-9.6939919

 

[need-aip]

Lawyers say these skyrocketing processing times published by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) are unheard of, and some fear mass cancellation of applications if the Liberal government passes its strong borders bills, which would grant the minister sweeping new powers.

 

[WellWell2021]

Lawyers say these skyrocketing processing times published by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) are unheard of, and some fear mass cancellation of applications if the Liberal government passes its strong borders bills, which would grant the minister sweeping new powers.

Yes, we’re already aware of that, that’s the basis of the discussion we’ve been talking about for days, and it’s the main topic in the media right now.
Right now, we’re just waiting to see whether the law will be passed or not, and if it is, whether it will be applied in the extreme way we all fear, or in a more logical and coherent way that respects Canada’s humanitarian commitments....

 

[sting 000]

But there shouldn't be a quota for humanitarian causes in the first place, its pure logic, you can put an estimate for logistic purposes but you can't put a quota for people who are already here. It's just pure politics at this point, something to blame for the downfall of the economy.

Canada wants humanity to see it as a humanitarian friendly country as per immigration than the rest of the world, h and c is a show off.

 

[ABEL2025]

Hi … could you guys advise for my case as we had received AIP last year in May 2024, for 3 family members. In Oct 2024 one member only received the confirmation and PR card. However till now the remaining 2 didn’t receive the confirmation and PR card yet.
We also worried due to the development regarding bill C-12 could have an impact on our case if the bill got the final approval and came into force.

 

[canuck78]

Canada wants humanity to see it as a humanitarian friendly country as per immigration than the rest of the world, h and c is a show off.

Would say the Trudeau government wanted to be viewed as the most humanitarian country and 5-10 years voters were also still supportive of a more liberal immigration program. Think most reasonable Canadians still think we need to be welcoming but we need to prioritize Canadians and PRs first and need responsible immigration policies. Would have been unheard of 10 years ago for people to be calling for no immigration but many are now openly calling for that. Even if Canada scales back some of their humanitarian programs it still represents quite large number for a small country.

 

[canuck78]

Hi … could you guys advise for my case as we had received AIP last year in May 2024, for 3 family members. In Oct 2024 one member only received the confirmation and PR card. However till now the remaining 2 didn’t receive the confirmation and PR card yet.
We also worried due to the development regarding bill C-12 could have an impact on our case if the bill got the final approval and came into force.

It is a year later! Have you contacted IRCC? Ordered GCMS notes? Is everyone in Canada? Did you all apply and get approved for H&C?

 

[ABEL2025]

It is a year later! Have you contacted IRCC? Ordered GCMS notes? Is everyone in Canada? Did you all apply and get approved for H&C?

Hi … Yes it’s a year later ( one received PR in Oct 2024) and now one year passed already.
all 3 members in Canada.
Yes I applied for H&C and received 3 AIP ( Approved In Principle)

 

[canuck78]

Hi … Yes it’s a year later ( one received PR in Oct 2024) and now one year passed already.
all 3 members in Canada.
Yes I applied for H&C and received 3 AIP ( Approved In Principle)

Have you contacted IRCC? You said you applied for H&C do you mean you whole family applied for H&C. You each got your own AIPs? Have you ordered GCMS notes?

 

[stallion1982]

The real beneficiaries of this entire situation are fraudulent refugee claimants, who gain access to work permits, healthcare, and various other benefits from the moment they submit their claims. They have little concern about delays in processing — even if it takes 10 years for IRCC to reach a decision — since they can continue enjoying these benefits in the meantime.

Another group benefiting from this issue are those filing questionable work permit extensions, as they are allowed to keep working while their applications remain under review. Pausing IRCC’s processing of such cases is not the right approach; instead, the focus should be on swift screening and prompt decision-making to prevent misuse of the system.

 

[stallion1982]

Instead of resorting to a mass cancellation of applications under Bill C-12, IRCC should prioritize swift screening and the rejection of fraudulent claims, which does not appear to be its current approach.

 

[canuck78]

Instead of resorting to a mass cancellation of applications under Bill C-12, IRCC should prioritize swift screening and the rejection of fraudulent claims, which does not appear to be its current approach.

For H&C that would still be very labour intensive, setting parameters of what would qualify for processing would be difficult and it would still likely lead to a large number of applications that would need to be processed. Processing times could still end up being decades. We’ll all need to wait and see.

 

[stallion1982]

For H&C that would still be very labour intensive, setting parameters of what would qualify for processing would be difficult and it would still likely lead to a large number of applications that would need to be processed. Processing times could still end up being decades. We’ll all need to wait and see.

While IRCC does not process applications without charge, current fees may not fully reflect the actual cost of processing. If that is the case, the department should review its fee structure and strengthen its operational capacity to ensure applications are processed within reasonable timelines. Continuing to collect processing fees without delivering timely service risks creating the perception that the system itself is being mismanaged, rather than applicants taking advantage of it. So its a both side affair here.

 

[sting 000]

Instead of resorting to a mass cancellation of applications under Bill C-12, IRCC should prioritize swift screening and the rejection of fraudulent claims, which does not appear to be its current approach.

Like quebec did in skilled worker program!!adding country cap in bill c-12 in all ircc Pr applications will go a long way,no country will have more than 15 to 20% in total pr Admission each year in the public interest.
And in new temporary residents admissions study permit and work permits in the next 2years.

 

[canuck78]

While IRCC does not process applications without charge, current fees may not fully reflect the actual cost of processing. If that is the case, the department should review its fee structure and strengthen its operational capacity to ensure applications are processed within reasonable timelines. Continuing to collect processing fees without delivering timely service risks creating the perception that the system itself is being mismanaged, rather than applicants taking advantage of it. So its a both side affair here.

I was speaking about reviewing all the applications for merit and only canceling some. If cancelled applicants typically get their processing fees returned. The cost and time of reviewing all applications to determine who should be processed is not a god use of resources for IRCC. IRCC has in the past cancelled programs and let people apply again under a new program/criteria if they qualify. Current processing times have very little with staffing and mostly has to do with quota allocated which is very small. IRCC is not going to increase capacity to approve cases faster because they have limited quota and it would just add to the AIP backlog. It already has a major issue with AIP backlogs. The system was not meant for applicants to spend long periods of time between AIP & PR. AIP also doesn’t guarantee PR so the longer it takes the higher chance circumstances may change which could lead to a refusal of the application.