Agreed 100%As I noted before
This is especially so in regards to cessation since the whole scheme connecting PR status to cessation is riddled with inconsistencies,
What matters? What is useful information for a PR-refugee?
So, here's the thing . . . that's not just getting into the weeds, that's getting into lawyer's stuff, and any attempt to extrapolate guidelines to apply to actual cases, let alone hypotheticals, would be going well beyond my range. I am not a Canadian lawyer, not a professional involved in immigration or refugee matters at all, let alone cessation litigation. As interesting as I find this stuff, and as much as here in the forum I digest some of the highlights in cessation adjudication, this is mostly to illustrate and emphasize what is at stake, to illuminate how complex and nuanced and tricky things get, and (to be clear) how risky, once a PR-refugee has crossed the primary threshold for being subject to cessation proceedings, once they have traveled to the home country.
In summary: don't travel to the home country or, if you do, get a lawyer. Otherwise it's a gamble, the odds are not good, and for most (and especially those with really good reasons for fleeing their home country) there is a lot at stake.
Let's call it something less than a hint, more like a whisper or a rumor. For example, a refugee in this situation posting in https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-i...nt-questions-and-answers.397458/#post-4966061 and sharing the advice that they were given, to avoid contact with their home embassy.Example; the tangent about utilizing consular services:
There is no hint that utilizing the home country's consular services will stir so much as a whisper about cessation unless the PR-refugee has used a home country passport to travel internationally, or has traveled to the home country.
I see your point, and suspect you're right. Even so, if I were point-blank asked this by a refugee (or someone trying to help a refugee in Canada) my answer would definitely be "lawyer up!" and to avoid contact with the home embassy before then.
I'd be too worried about helping to create the first embassy-related non-home-travel cessation case no matter how unlikely that seems.
The "passport needed for a divorce" is a great example! I didn't make this concern explicit, but perhaps now the refugee wants to access some service from the home embassy while not having any home country travel plans.Otherwise, for a PR-refugee who is at risk of cessation (one who has traveled to their home country), even though the use of home country consular services can be additional evidence of reavailment (depending on the service obtained), how cessation turns out will depend far more on the nature and extent of passport use and home country travel. As I said, addressing this in response to an explicit question from @stuckinsec, use of consular services (other than for obtaining a passport) is "not likely" to be a factor that makes much of a difference, failing to clearly distinguish enough technically availing a country's protection versus what matters practically. Bottom-line, as interesting as this is, for purposes of cessation generally as applicable to those with PR status, no, the exact nature of the services obtained are not of much importance. Not worth wading much into those weeds.
That said, again, this subject is rife with nuances and pitfalls (which can go in different directions), hard to see sharp turns, so one of the situations in which obtaining a home country passport might not support cessation is if a passport is needed to pursue obtaining a divorce in the home country, in which case (according to the UNHCR handbook, paragraph 120) the act of obtaining the passport should not be considered a "voluntary re-availment," and thus will not constitute grounds for cessation. In the handbook this is characterized as a situation in which the refugee is "constrained, by circumstances beyond his control, to have recourse to a measure of protection from his country of nationality."
Later in the future, the refugee is unexpected compelled to visit the home country for some reason, but for reasons clearly outside of their control.
I'd fear that once this refugee is on the cessation radar, that the former embassy visits might be examined closely to find evidence to support voluntary re-availment. (In particular I'd worry that the refugee voluntarily sought and successfully obtained a service available only to citizens while there were alternative options.) Hopefully this wouldn't be enough to mean anything that could hurt the refugee's case (being far apart in time and having entirely unrelated purposes) - but as you say, this is rife with nuances and pitfalls.
Getting off topic, but they really should update that... it's a bit concerning that they haven't yet, considering.Which leads to an IRB legal resource titled Interpretation of Convention Refugee and Person in Need of Protection in the Case Law, and Chapter 12 Applications to cease refugee protection in particular, where this is discussed.
Caution: the IRB's legal resources regarding cessation, and the presumption of reavailment in particular, are outdated; while the questions certified in the FC Camayo case are quoted, there is no reference to the FCA decision in Camayo, for example, which is perhaps the most comprehensive binding precedent regarding cessation, let alone any discussion of FC decisions applying the FCA Camayo decision.
Ah, I did not realize that the RPD could choose which of the inconsistent interpretations from the FC to follow.Reminder: while Federal Court decisions carry a lot of weight they are not binding precedent, so there can be and often are inconsistent interpretations and applications of law among the FC decisions, and the RPD can choose which to follow; Federal Court of Appeal decisions, in contrast, are binding precedent (but what that means, distinguishing what is a holding establishing binding precedent versus dicta for example, is itself a huge subject, too much to cover in a single law school course for example).
I really feel that, in terms of how-things-should-work, Canada should not impose cessation of PR on those who have been granted immigrant/permanent status. The fact that Canada alone does this suggests to me that perhaps there's a good reason why Canada is alone in this: namely that it's a bad idea. We're wading far off-topic into politics here but I have to point out, we know which gov't/administration introduced this rule and their stance on immigration in general.This source (available to the public but mainly for IRB/RPD guidance) also addresses cases in which the FC considered a PR-refugee's belief they are not (in effect) availing home country protection because they are relying on the security of having permanent resident status in Canada . . . which you have brought up a few times . . . including:
There are a number of cases (many if not most of which I probably discussed here over the course of the last ten plus years) which discuss rebutting the presumption of reavailment with evidence the PR-refugee believed they were protected by their Canadian PR status (or something along those lines, although I have not seen "solace" in being a PR mentioned despite it having a nice ring to it). One of those is a case that has been frequently cited in other decisions: Cerna v. Canada, 2015 FC 1074, https://canlii.ca/t/gl76g
In the how-things-should-work camp, I very much agree this should be a big factor in cessation cases. It goes to the core of the issue: whether the PR-refugee actually intended (formed what in criminal law is a "specific intent") to in effect give up the protection that Canada provides by embracing the protection of their home country.
[There exists] the underlying incongruity of linking what is intended to be permanent status (with the purpose of facilitating the individual's settlement and integration in Canada) with what is largely temporary status (with the purpose of providing an individual with protection, refuge, which generally is temporary unless the individual is part of a long term immigration plan). According to a lawyer with extensive cessation litigation experience, Doug Cannon, Canada is the only country which imposes cessation on those who have been granted immigrant/permanent status.