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Ok so for everyone to know. I have both cbsa records and gcms notes. My gcms notes contain travel records, and presence is calculated based on EXITS only, not entry.

I’m missing many exit entries so my physical presence is calculated at 781 in the notes, even though I’m sure I have 1096.
This is repetitive but: that is clearly some type of automated calculation. That may kick you out of the quicker (AI or risk-based?) simplified approval, but it doesn't mean it will be refused or subject to extra-super-slow processing.

It almost certainly means it's kicked out to 'meat space' - a human will evaluate. They know enough to understand that a file that has many missing exits (and too many 'unmatched' entries) ... simply has missing info (the exits).

They'll work to clarify that - from some combination of your info, asking for more info, making conclusions based on other supporting evidence (work/study and tax records etc), info in your profile, etc.

Remember: they processed citizenship apps based on physical presence before they had entry/exit records like they do now. They know how to do this.

Draw your own conclusions on what to do next, of course.
 
To the forum members discussing entry and exits: as @Miss bee has suggested, wouldn't your own Entry and Exit records suffice?

I applied for Citizenship this month, and had entry and exits to both Europe and the US. In case of the US, I provided the travel history data you can get from the US government website.

And thankfully for Europe, the entry and exits were clearly stamped into the passport by relevant Schengen nations.

I suppose one could add the airline tickets and boarding passes too, but wonder if asking for a traveler history report from CBSA is overkill?

tia!
 
To the forum members discussing entry and exits: as @Miss bee has suggested, wouldn't your own Entry and Exit records suffice?

I applied for Citizenship this month, and had entry and exits to both Europe and the US. In case of the US, I provided the travel history data you can get from the US government website.

And thankfully for Europe, the entry and exits were clearly stamped into the passport by relevant Schengen nations.

I suppose one could add the airline tickets and boarding passes too, but wonder if asking for a traveler history report from CBSA is overkill?

tia!
The real answer is: are you asked to submit this information?

If not, do not submit them.

What you ARE required to do is submit your OWN record (true record of course) of your travels. That's it.
 
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The real answer is: are you asked to submit this information?

If not, do not submit them.

What you ARE required to do is submit your OWN record (true record of course) of your travels. That's it.
To clarify: I'm talking about what to provide when you apply.

Provide what is required in the forms. That's it. Try not to complicate it.

There are some circumstances - rare - when it might make sense to provide a bit more information. (My spouse's happened to be one - because we'd checked and there was a missing exit in CBSA records).

But most of the time: don't. And if you possibly can, wait a few more weeks or a month or two to give yourself more buffer over the 1095 days.

Most of the other discussions here are basically relevant for the cases of what one might provide IF ircc subsequently requests. That doesn't happen all that much.
 
To clarify: I'm talking about what to provide when you apply.

Provide what is required in the forms. That's it. Try not to complicate it.

There are some circumstances - rare - when it might make sense to provide a bit more information. (My spouse's happened to be one - because we'd checked and there was a missing exit in CBSA records).

But most of the time: don't. And if you possibly can, wait a few more weeks or a month or two to give yourself more buffer over the 1095 days.

Most of the other discussions here are basically relevant for the cases of what one might provide IF ircc subsequently requests. That doesn't happen all that much.
Certainly provided what was requested by the documents/forms etc.

Applied with a cover letter and explanation providing additional details such as Entry and Exits from the US since we visit there often, and Stamps from Europe, in case the officer feels like they want to check.

Been a PR for a decade with well over 1095 : )

cheers!
 
To clarify: I'm talking about what to provide when you apply.

Provide what is required in the forms. That's it. Try not to complicate it.

There are some circumstances - rare - when it might make sense to provide a bit more information. (My spouse's happened to be one - because we'd checked and there was a missing exit in CBSA records).

But most of the time: don't. And if you possibly can, wait a few more weeks or a month or two to give yourself more buffer over the 1095 days.

Most of the other discussions here are basically relevant for the cases of what one might provide IF ircc subsequently requests. That doesn't happen all that much.
Hope things went well for your spouse
 
Certainly provided what was requested by the documents/forms etc.

Applied with a cover letter and explanation providing additional details such as Entry and Exits from the US since we visit there often, and Stamps from Europe, in case the officer feels like they want to check.

Been a PR for a decade with well over 1095 : )
This is more or less the situation I was referring to as cases where I don't think providing extra information is really necessary, esp since you had well over 1095.

Everyone's welcome to decide for themselves, of course. I just doubt it adds much and (if anything) more work for the officer and possibly adding to processing time.

With possible exception - from what you described - of those with a LOT of same-day trips to USA, where pretty much just providing the same-day trips (caveat i don't really follow how the same-day trips are properly recorded, at one point I understood it was an issue in the online forms).
Hope things went well for your spouse
Thank you, so far, so good. We did get a subsequent data request (passport pages basically) and an interview. All that went fine, physical presence was approved shortly thereafter - but the extra checks were more or less what I expected. If there was some delay as a result, probably - a guess - about what extra we'd have seen from waiting an extra couple of weeks or a month or two.

But I think in the end it'll come down to whether the security checks take a long time or not.
 
Certainly provided what was requested by the documents/forms etc.

Applied with a cover letter and explanation providing additional details such as Entry and Exits from the US since we visit there often, and Stamps from Europe, in case the officer feels like they want to check.

For clarification in broader context:

Not sure to what extent it affects the travel history YOU reported in the residency calculation, if any at all, but in various scenarios entry and exit records from other countries do not accurately reflect exit dates from Canada or entry into Canada (generally excepting U.S. records of entry from Canada, which almost always correspond to the date of exit from Canada, and which IRCC, through CBSA, can access apart from what the client/applicant submits).

There is probably less deviation with European destinations than Asian, noting for example that entry records into Asian countries can sometimes be two days later than the actual date of exit from Canada, given travel time and crossing the international date line. Nonetheless, for many of those who take overnight trans-Atlantic flights (which were at least common back when I was doing such travel), for another example, the entry date into the UK or France or other European destination is a day later than the date of exit from Canada.

That is, reporting exit or entry dates based on dates of entry into or exit from other countries can be an error.

For applicants who make such errors in their reported travel history, typically a one day though sometimes a two day error, this will not directly affect the eligibility of an applicant applying with a good buffer above the minimum physical presence requirement. No likelihood that such discrepancies would raise suspicion of misrepresentation either. But any discrepancy will of course indicate the applicant is to some extent at least a poor reporter of the facts, if not an inaccurate reporter, and can raise concerns about credibility that can trigger additional non-routine inquiries to verify the applicant's information, potentially leading to longer processing times.

For those who apply with little or no buffer, such errors can result in the application failing.

Bottom-line: there is no substitute for personally keeping a complete and accurate record of the precise date of exit and date of entry for every trip outside Canada, even if it is just taking a walk out to the middle of the Rainbow Bridge, to look at the Niagara Falls from that vantage point, and back. Applicants who submit a complete and accurate travel history, as well as a complete and accurate address and work history, and apply with a buffer, are making as solid a case for meeting the presence requirement as can be made in the citizenship application. And even though IRCC can always pursue further inquiries into physical presence, including requesting additional information from the applicant, those who submit a complete and accurate travel history, and address and work history likewise, and apply with a buffer, have damn good odds there are no processing delays due to physical presence verification.